Re: [Numpy-discussion] Reminder: weekly status meeting

2018-10-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
ell already IMO. > > PyData/Sparse is pretty much independent of any changes to scipy.sparse at > this point. We build on top of NumPy, not scipy.sparse. > > Feel free to use any or all of my code for sparray, although I think Ralf > Gommers, Matthew Rocklin and others were of the opinion

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Reminder: weekly status meeting

2018-10-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:10 AM Stefan van der Walt wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 10:27:49 +1300, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > Just to make sure we're talking about the same things here: Stefan, I > think > > with "sparray" you mean "an n-D sparse array

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Depreciating asfortranarray and ascontiguousarray

2018-10-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 6:37 PM Eric Wieser wrote: > in order to be used prior to calling C or Fortran code that expected at > least a 1-d array > > I’d argue that the behavior for these functions should have just been to > raise an error saying “this function does not support 0d arrays”, rather

Re: [Numpy-discussion] asanyarray vs. asarray

2018-10-29 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:31 PM Chris Barker wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: > > >> agree that we can stop bashing subclasses in general. The problem with >> numpy subclasses is that they were made without adherence to SOLID: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Attribute hiding APIs for PyArrayObject

2018-10-31 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 4:01 PM Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:59 PM Allan Haldane > wrote: > >> On 10/30/18 5:04 AM, Matti Picus wrote: >> > TL;DR - should we revert the attribute-hiding constructs in >> > ndarraytypes.h and unify PyArrayObject_fields with PyArrayObject

Re: [Numpy-discussion] asanyarray vs. asarray

2018-10-31 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 2:22 PM Stephan Hoyer wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 9:49 PM Eric Wieser > wrote: > >> The latter - changing the behavior of multiplication breaks the principle. >> >> But this is not the main reason for deprecating matrix - almost all of >> the problems I’ve seen have

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Vectorized version of numpy.linspace

2018-11-14 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:57 AM Stephan Hoyer wrote: > It recently came up on GitHub (at part of the discussion in > https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/12379) that numpy.linspace could, > at least in principle, be modified to support array inputs: > > It looks like this has been requested on S

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.16

2018-11-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:41 AM Charles R Harris wrote: > Hi All, > > Just an update of the NumPy 1.16 release schedule. The last PR milestoned > for the release is #12219 , and > it is about done. The current release blocker is the upcoming OpenBLAS > 0

Re: [Numpy-discussion] OpenBLAS

2018-12-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 8:54 PM Charles R Harris wrote: > Hi All, > > Just a heads up that OpenBLAS 3.4 > has been released. > Thanks for the heads up! Release notes look promising, should solve a reasonable amount of the issues we've been seeing. Ra

[Numpy-discussion] the making of the NumPy roadmap

2018-12-06 Thread Ralf Gommers
er of new ideas were added. Other maintainers present included Charles Harris, Tyler Reddy, Ralf Gommers and Stéfan van der Walt; many other participants were developers of libraries that depend on NumPy. At this point we had a fairly complete list of roadmap items, however the document itself w

Re: [Numpy-discussion] align `choices` and `sample` with Python `random` module

2018-12-10 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 2:00 PM Alan Isaac wrote: > I believe this was proposed in the past to little enthusiasm, > with the response, "you're using a library; learn its functions". > Not only that, NumPy and the core libraries around it are the standard for numerical/statistical computing. If co

Re: [Numpy-discussion] the making of the NumPy roadmap

2018-12-10 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 1:55 PM Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:24 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> A little while ago I wrote a blog post about the history of us >> constructing the roadmap we currently have: >> htt

Re: [Numpy-discussion] align `choices` and `sample` with Python `random` module

2018-12-10 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:27 AM Alan Isaac wrote: > On 12/10/2018 11:20 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > there is nothing wrong with the current API > > Just to be clear: you completely reject the past > cautions on this list against creating APIs > with flag parameters. Is tha

Re: [Numpy-discussion] align `choices` and `sample` with Python `random` module

2018-12-11 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:27 AM Warren Weckesser < warren.weckes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 12/10/18, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 2:00 PM Alan Isaac wrote: > > > >> I believe this was proposed in the past to little enthusiasm, >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] align `choices` and `sample` with Python `random` module

2018-12-12 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:26 AM Stephan Hoyer wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:26 AM Alan Isaac wrote: > >> On 12/10/2018 11:20 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >> > there is nothing wrong with the current API >> >> Just to be clear: you completely reject the past

[Numpy-discussion] gear with NumPy logo

2018-12-15 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, I thought this nontechnical announcement was worth copying from the NumFOCUS list: you can now order clothes, mugs and phone cases with the NumPy logo on it: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/numfocus/numpy+official+logo?q=I1018707210. Cheers, Ralf _

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Add guaranteed no-copy to array creation and reshape?

2018-12-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:29 PM Sebastian Berg wrote: > Hi all, > > In https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/11897 I am looking into the > addition of a `copy=np.never_copy` argument to: > * np.array > * arr.reshape/np.reshape > * arr.astype > > Which would cause an error to be raised when nu

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Add guaranteed no-copy to array creation and reshape?

2018-12-27 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 3:27 PM Juan Nunez-Iglesias wrote: > On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, at 3:40 AM, Sebastian Berg wrote: > > > It’s consistent with np.newaxis in spelling (modulo the _) > > If mistyped, it can be caught easily by IDEs. > > It’s typeable with mypy, unlike constant string literals whic

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue with setup_requires and 1.16 release candidates

2019-01-06 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 12:45 PM Thomas Robitaille < thomas.robitai...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Back in December I started getting failures in continuous integration > as well as reports of failures from users of installation issues for a > couple of packages. The problem can be easily repro

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Add guaranteed no-copy to array creation and reshape?

2019-01-09 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:30 AM Eric Wieser wrote: > > @Ralf > > np.newaxis is not relevant here - it’s a simple alias for None, is just > there for code readability, and is much more widely applicable than > np.never_copy would be. > > Is there any particular reason we chose to use None? If I we

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Add guaranteed no-copy to array creation and reshape?

2019-01-10 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 10:55 PM Eric Wieser wrote: > Slicing is a lot more important than some keyword. And design-wise, > filling the numpy namespace with singletons for keyword to other things in > that same namespace just makes no sense to me. > > At least from the perspective of discoverabili

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Add guaranteed no-copy to array creation and reshape?

2019-01-10 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:21 AM Feng Yu wrote: > Hi Todd, > > I agree a flag is more suitable than classes. > > I would add another bonus of a flag than a function argument is to avoid > massive contamination of function signatures for a global variation of > behavior that affects many functions

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Does numpy depend upon a Fortran library?

2019-01-30 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 5:19 PM Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 5:28 PM Marc F Paterno wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have encountered a problem with a binary incompatibility between the >> Fortran runtime library installed with numpy when using 'pip install --user >> numpy', a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Does numpy depend upon a Fortran library?

2019-01-31 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:03 PM Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:32 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 5:19 PM Charles R Harris < >> charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> &

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Stepping down as NumFOCUS liason

2019-02-21 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 4:33 PM Charles R Harris wrote: > Hi Nathaniel, > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:19 AM Nathaniel Smith wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> As part of our relationship with NumFOCUS, we have to have some liasons >> so they know who to contact etc. So far that's been Ralf and me. But,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Outreachy internship

2019-02-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 10:19 PM Stefan van der Walt wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The team at BIDS would like to take on an intern from Outreachy > (https://www.outreachy.org), as part of our effort to grow the NumPy > developer community. > > The internship is similar to a GSoC, except that we will

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Gsoc aspirant for 2019

2019-03-08 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 9:21 AM prishat bachhar wrote: > Respected mentor, > I am a 2nd year student from Jadavpur University, India. I have been using > numpy for quite some time now.I want to contribute to the same.Can you > guide me how to move forward with it. I am quite adept to programming i

[Numpy-discussion] Fwd: Announcement and thanks to Season of Docs survey respondents: Season of Docs has launched

2019-03-11 Thread Ralf Gommers
It's official, Season of Docs is happening! Does look very interesting, I'd love to see NumPy and SciPy participate. Ralf -- Forwarded message - From: Sarah Maddox Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 2:56 PM Subject: Announcement and thanks to Season of Docs survey respondents: Season o

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Gsoc 2019

2019-03-12 Thread Ralf Gommers
ussion-ow...@python.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of NumPy-Discussion digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Fwd: Announcement and thanks to Season of Docs survey

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [SciPy-Dev] Fwd: Announcement and thanks to Season of Docs survey respondents: Season of Docs has launched

2019-03-12 Thread Ralf Gommers
No idea yet. I suspect that either the PSF or NumFOCUS (or both) will though. On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 8:09 AM Eric Larson wrote: > Any idea if PSF is going to be an umbrella org for this, as they are for > GSoC? > > Eric > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:46 AM Ralf Gommer

Re: [Numpy-discussion] MY INTRODUCTION TO NumPy COMMUNITY

2019-03-13 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi Kerlyn, welcome! On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:36 AM Nkep Kerlyn wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am a Computer Engineer(Telecoms major) from Buea, Cameroon. I recently > completed undergraduate studies from the University of Buea. > > I am interested in contributing to NumPy during and after the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] prpp report—please help review!

2019-03-20 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 1:09 PM Stefan van der Walt wrote: > Hi everyone, > > During the community call today, we drew up a list of open PR counts per > developer. We are working towards bringing down their number (around 240 > today), and would appreciate it if you could help us review and/or m

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Outreachy applicant introduction

2019-03-28 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 7:53 PM Maya Dara Sofia Pasiliao < mayapasil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Maya Pasiliao, a computer science undergraduate in NYC. I am an > outreachy applicant as well and have seen some of the instructions for > getting started in the other emails. I just w

[Numpy-discussion] Google Summer of Docs ideas?

2019-04-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, NumFOCUS has applied as an umbrella org for the inaugural Google Summer of Docs, and we're participating. We need 1-2 ideas and work them out very well (ideas need to be high quality, it's not yet sure that NumFOCUS will get accepted as an umbrella org). Guidelines are at https://developer

[Numpy-discussion] adding Quansight Labs as institutional partner

2019-04-09 Thread Ralf Gommers
Labs. Given the relevance to NumPy I thought it would be appropriate to reference those posts here: - https://www.quansight.com/single-post/2019/04/02/Welcoming-Ralf-Gommers-as-Director-of-Quansight-Labs - https://labs.quansight.org/blog/2019/4/joining-labs/ Any feedback, suggestion or idea is very

Re: [Numpy-discussion] adding Quansight Labs as institutional partner

2019-04-09 Thread Ralf Gommers
ccelerating development of new features on our roadmap. Cheers, Ralf > Cheers, Alan Isaac > > > On 4/9/2019 3:10 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Last week I joined Quansight. In Quansight Labs I will be working on > increasing the contributions to core

Re: [Numpy-discussion] adding Quansight Labs as institutional partner

2019-04-11 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:25 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > Thanks Alan, good questions. The donations via the Flipcause site go to > NumFOCUS. NumFOCUS is a 501(c)3 and NumPy's fiscal sponsor, so any > individual or institution that wants to donate to NumPy should preferably

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Google Summer of Docs ideas?

2019-04-14 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 10:45 AM Ralf Gommers wrote: > Hi all, > > NumFOCUS has applied as an umbrella org for the inaugural Google Summer of > Docs, and we're participating. We need 1-2 ideas and work them out very > well (ideas need to be high quality, it's not yet sure

Re: [Numpy-discussion] adding Quansight Labs as institutional partner

2019-04-15 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:03 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:25 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> >> >> Thanks Alan, good questions. The donations via the Flipcause site go to >> NumFOCUS. NumFOCUS is a 501(c)3 and NumPy's fiscal

[Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-18 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, A number of core projects (NumPy, SciPy, Matplotlib, Pandas, scikit-learn) got together and put in a proposal to NSF for a large 5 year grant, and it was unfortunately just rejected. We now published the proposal, which may be of interest: https://figshare.com/articles/Mid-Scale_Research_I

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Google Summer of Docs ideas?

2019-04-18 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 6:42 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 10:45 AM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> NumFOCUS has applied as an umbrella org for the inaugural Google Summer >> of Docs, and we're participating. We need 1-2

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Google Summer of Docs ideas?

2019-04-18 Thread Ralf Gommers
ime I can put > into it though is... not much, I'm afraid. > > Cheers, > > Evgeni > > чт, 18 апр. 2019 г., 23:51 Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@gmail.com: > >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 6:42 PM Ralf Gommers >> wrote: >> >>> >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-20 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 5:27 PM Marten van Kerkwijk < m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Ralf, > Thanks for the feedback Marten, it's very valuable. We've gotten some more feedback from people experienced with applying for or reviewing NSF (and DOE, NASA, NIH) grants, it helps a lot in figuri

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-20 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:03 PM Joe Harrington wrote: > Hi Ralf, > > The rejection is disappointing, for sure. Some good ammo for next time > might be the recommendations in this report from the US National > Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine: > > http://sites.nationalacademies.or

[Numpy-discussion] numpydoc 0.9.0 released

2019-04-21 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, Numpydoc 0.9.0 was just released. Please see https://github.com/numpy/numpydoc/milestone/4?closed=1 for a list of included fixes and new features. Cheers, Ralf ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@python.org https://mail.python.org

Re: [Numpy-discussion] numpydoc 0.9.0 released

2019-04-21 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 9:01 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > Hi all, > > Numpydoc 0.9.0 was just released. Please see > https://github.com/numpy/numpydoc/milestone/4?closed=1 for a list of > included fixes and new features. > And I overlooked the Changelog that Eric Larson had alre

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-04-22 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:26 PM Nathaniel Smith wrote: > Your last email didn't really clarify anything for me. I get that > np.func.__numpy_implementation__ is intended to have the semantics of > numpy's implementation of func, but that doesn't tell me much :-). And > also, that's exactly the de

Re: [Numpy-discussion] numpydoc 0.9.0 released

2019-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
And hopefully last update: 0.9.1 is now also released, with an update to install_requires. Numpydoc now requires Sphinx >= 1.6.5 On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 9:35 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 9:01 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >&

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:31 PM Marten van Kerkwijk < m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > Reading the discussion again, I've gotten somewhat unsure that it is > helpful to formalize a way to call an implementation that we can and > hopefully will change. Why not just leave it at __wrap

[Numpy-discussion] Tidelift - NumFOCUS agreement for NumPy

2019-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, On behalf of the NumPy Steering Council I'm happy to announce that we now have an agreement between Tidelift and NumFOCUS for NumPy. The summary of the agreement is: Tidelift will pay NumPy a minimum of $1000/month until Oct 2020, and NumPy will do the following: - provide a documented way

[Numpy-discussion] bounty for PowerPC SIMD improvements in NumPy

2019-04-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, Now that I'm in write-long-emails-about-$$ mode, I'll continue with: IBM just posted at $5500 bounty on BountySource for adding VSX (= PowerPC equivalent of SSE/AVX SIMD instructions we have for x86) support to NumPy: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/13393. This is an interesting exp

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-25 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:41 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:03 PM Joe Harrington > wrote: > > >> 3. There's such a thing as a share-in-savings contract at NASA, in which >> you calculate a savings, such as from avoided costs of

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-04-25 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 12:04 AM Stephan Hoyer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 12:46 PM Marten van Kerkwijk < > m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It seems we are adding to the wishlist! I see four so far: >> 1. Exposed in API, can be overridden with __array_ufunc__ >> 2. One that converts

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-04-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 1:02 AM Stephan Hoyer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 3:39 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> >> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 12:04 AM Stephan Hoyer wrote: >> >>> I do like the look of this, but keep in mind that there is a downside to >

[Numpy-discussion] how much does binary size matter?

2019-04-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, In https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/13207 a discussion started about the tradeoff between performance gain for one function vs increasing the size of a NumPy build by a couple of percent. We also discussed that in the community call on Wednesday and concluded that it may be useful to as

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Sebastian Berg at BIDS

2019-04-27 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 8:45 PM Stefan van der Walt wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We are happy to announce that Sebastian Berg has joined the team at > BIDS, and will be working full-time on NumPy for the next two years. > Sebastian has been a core contributor to the project for seven years > already

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-04-27 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 7:05 PM Marten van Kerkwijk < m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > I agree with Ralf that there are two discussions going on, but also with > Hameer that they are related, in that part of the very purpose of > __array_function__ was to gain freedom to experiment

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-04-28 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 5:02 AM Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 7:46 PM Stephan Hoyer wrote: > > Worst, "__wrapped__" would be difficult to search for, because it > already means something in Python (referring to functools.wrapped). At > least "__numpy_implementation__" and "__s

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-04-28 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 8:10 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > It seems like we all have a different mental model of what NEP 18 actually > does. I'm going to try to put mine on a few slides with diagrams/examples > to see if that helps, since mailing list threads are hard to proce

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-04-28 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 5:41 PM Marten van Kerkwijk < m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Ralf, > > Thanks for the comments and summary slides. I think you're > over-interpreting my wish to break people's code! I certainly believe - and > think we all agree - that we remain as committed as ever

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-04-28 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 6:57 PM Marten van Kerkwijk < m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Ralf, > > Agreed that the coercion right now is *not* generic, with some doing > `asarray`, others `asanyarray` and yet others nothing. There are multiple > possible solutions, with one indeed being that f

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-04-28 Thread Ralf Gommers
more structural solution later. Cheers, Ralf > > вс, 28 апр. 2019 г., 15:38 Ralf Gommers : > >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 8:10 PM Ralf Gommers >> wrote: >> >>> >>> It seems like we all have a different mental model of what NEP

Re: [Numpy-discussion] how much does binary size matter?

2019-04-30 Thread Ralf Gommers
or example add a compile time > > option to make it smaller again by e.g. stripping out hardware specific > > code or avoiding size expensive optimizations. > > But without concrete usecases this appears to be a not something worth > > spending time on. > > > > O

[Numpy-discussion] ANN: NumPy and SciPy accepted in Summer of Docs, technical writer exploration phase open

2019-04-30 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, Good news: NumPy and SciPy both were accepted as participating organizations for Google Summer of Docs! This could potentially be very interesting and impactful. If you have any tech writer friends that could be interested or that may have friends, colleagues or a community that may be: p

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
; I’m afraid I know no pythonistas at NASA. > > But I’ll poke around NOAA to see if there’s anything similar. > > -CHB > > On Apr 25, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:41 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> >> >&

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-04 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:55 PM Stephen Waterbury wrote: > Sure, I would be interested to discuss, let's try to meet up there. > > Steve > > On 5/3/19 12:23 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:51 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> On Fri, Ma

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-04 Thread Ralf Gommers
n the OSS space >> could figure out ways to help connect companies, OSS projects, and funding >> opportunities like these, where there's a possibility of alignment and >> mutual benefit? >> >> The full list of funding opportunities is here: >> https://eere-

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-04 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 12:24 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:55 PM Stephen Waterbury > wrote: > >> Sure, I would be interested to discuss, let's try to meet up there. >> >> Steve >> >> On 5/3/19 12:23 PM, Chris Barker

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-05-04 Thread Ralf Gommers
We seem to have run out of steam a bit here. On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 7:24 AM Stephan Hoyer wrote: > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Marten van Kerkwijk < > m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The uses that I've seen so far (in CuPy and JAX), involve a handful of >>> functions that are direc

Re: [Numpy-discussion] My Introduction and Getting Started with Numpy.

2019-05-06 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi Ngoran, welcome! On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 10:53 AM Joyce Tirnyuy wrote: > Hi All, > > I am Ngoran Clare-Joyce, an Electrical Engineer from Cameroon. I use > Python and Javascript for Software Development. Over the past year, I have > gained insight into Machine Learning and Data Science Algori

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Preparation for 1.17.x branch

2019-05-08 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:03 AM Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 4:00 PM Stephan Hoyer wrote: > >> I'd love to get the revisions of NEP-18 finalized. I guess this means >> we'll need to reach a decision on >> https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/13305 >> > Another thing that wo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] My Introduction and Getting Started with Numpy.

2019-05-10 Thread Ralf Gommers
t's great. Let us know if you need any pointers, please ask either on GitHub or here. Cheers, Ralf > Thank you, > Joyce. > > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:57 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> Hi Ngoran, welcome! >> >> >> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 10:53 AM

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release vs development testing.

2019-05-12 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 3:56 PM Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 6:33 AM Julian Taylor < > jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> On 12.05.19 14:58, Charles R Harris wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > NumPy currently distinguishes between release and development versions >> >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release vs development testing.

2019-05-13 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 4:41 PM Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 7:27 AM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 3:56 PM Charles R Harris < >> charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Adding to the non-dispatched implementation of NumPy methods

2019-05-13 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 4:04 AM Stephan Hoyer wrote: > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 12:29 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> We seem to have run out of steam a bit here. >> > > We discussed this today in person at the NumPy sprint. > > The consensus was to go for a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] New Proposed Time for the NumPy Community Meeting

2019-05-15 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:47 PM Hameer Abbasi wrote: > Hello everyone! > > I’d like to propose that we shift the time of the NumPy community meeting > to one hour earlier starting next week. > > The reason is twofold: One, we have an Indian student who wishes to join > the meetings, and so it’d b

[Numpy-discussion] acknowledging sponsorship and institutional partners

2019-05-18 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, In [1] I am adding institutional partners and sponsor logos to the numpy.org website. Sebastian made some good comments there, and I think it would be very helpful if we had some guidelines on how we acknowledge sponsorship. Our governance doc has clear text on what an Institutional Partn

Re: [Numpy-discussion] GSoD - Technical Writter

2019-05-19 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:35 PM Chris Barker - NOAA Federal < chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote: > > > a responsive web page may not be an absolute requirement, but still it > may be nice to be able to read the docs from a tablet or smartphone. > > Unfortunately I am not familiar yet with Sphinx, but

Re: [Numpy-discussion] acknowledging sponsorship and institutional partners

2019-05-20 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 8:45 PM Gael Varoquaux < gael.varoqu...@normalesup.org> wrote: > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:01:15AM -0700, Nelle Varoquaux wrote: > > I'm pretty sure not all funding is acknowledged on scikit-learn's > frontpage. I > > think the minimum amount to be acknowledge with a logo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Converting np.sinc into a ufunc

2019-05-22 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 7:34 PM Nathan Goldbaum wrote: > It might be worth using BigQuery to search the github repository public > dataset for usages of np.sinc with keyword arguments. > We spent some effort at Quansight to try different approaches to this. BigQuery turns out to be suboptimal, p

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Keep __array_function__ unexposed by default for 1.17?

2019-05-22 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 9:46 PM Marten van Kerkwijk < m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Stephan, > > I'm quite happy with the idea of turning on __array_function__ but > postponing any formal solution to getting into the wrapped routines (i.e., > one can use __wrapped__, but it is an implemen

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Keep __array_function__ unexposed by default for 1.17?

2019-05-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 3:02 AM Marten van Kerkwijk < m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If we want to keep an "off" switch we might want to add some sort of API >> for exposing whether NumPy is using __array_function__ or not. Maybe >> numpy.__experimental_array_function_enabled__ = True, so y

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Converting np.sinc into a ufunc

2019-05-23 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 3:24 AM Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 7:14 PM Marten van Kerkwijk < > m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On a more general note, if we change to a ufunc, it will get us stuck >> with sinc being the normalized version, where the units of the inpu

[Numpy-discussion] scientific Python featured in GitHub keynote

2019-05-25 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, On Thursday I had the pleasure to be at GitHub Satellite, together with quite a few other maintainers from projects throughout our ecosystem, and see NumPy, Matplotlib, AstroPy and other projects highlighted prominently in Nat Friedman's keynote. It included the story of the black hole ima

Re: [Numpy-discussion] scientific Python featured in GitHub keynote

2019-05-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 2:19 AM Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:09 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> On Thursday I had the pleasure to be at GitHub Satellite, together with >> quite a few other maintainers from projec

Re: [Numpy-discussion] acknowledging sponsorship and institutional partners

2019-05-27 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 6:36 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > Hi all, > > In [1] I am adding institutional partners and sponsor logos to the > numpy.org website. Sebastian made some good comments there, and I think > it would be very helpful if we had some guidelines on how we acknowledg

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [SciPy-Dev] NumPy 1.16.4 released.

2019-05-28 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 9:40 PM Charles R Harris wrote: > Hi All, > > On behalf of the NumPy team I am pleased to announce the release of NumPy > 1.16.4 which contains several fixes for newly reported bugs. The Python > versions supported in this release are 2.7 and 3.5-3.7. > Thanks so much fo

[Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-01 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, I have an idea that I've discussed with a few people in person, and the feedback has generally been positive. So I'd like to bring it up here, to get a sense of if this is going to fly. Note that this is NOT a proposal at this point. Idea in five words: define a NumPy API standard Observ

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-01 Thread Ralf Gommers
ngs > to their language's idioms; they certainly don't care about whether > you decided 'newaxis MUST be defined to None' or merely 'SHOULD' be > defined to None. > > IMO if you try the most likely outcome will be that it will suck up a > lot of ener

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-01 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 6:12 PM Marten van Kerkwijk < m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Ralf, > > Despite sharing Nathaniel's doubts about the ease of defining the numpy > API and the likelihood of people actually sticking to a limited subset of > what numpy exposes, I quite like the actual th

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-01 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 8:46 PM Matti Picus wrote: > On 1/6/19 7:31 pm, Charles R Harris wrote: > > I generally agree with this. The most useful aspect of this exercise > > is likely to be clarifying NumPy for its own developers, and maybe > > offering a guide to future simplification. Trying to p

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-01 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 10:32 PM Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 09:13 Ralf Gommers wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 11:32 AM Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >>> It's possible I'm not getting what you're thinking, but from

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-01 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 3:18 AM Marten van Kerkwijk < m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Our API is huge. A simple count: >> main namespace: 600 >> fft: 30 >> linalg: 30 >> random: 60 >> ndarray: 70 >> lib: 20 >> lib.npyio: 35 >> etc. (many more ill-thought out but not clearly private submodules

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-01 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 12:33 AM Dashamir Hoxha wrote: > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 10:05 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> >> I think this is potentially useful, but *far* more prescriptive and >> detailed than I had in mind. Both you and Nathaniel seem to have not >>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 12:35 AM Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 1:05 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > > I think this is potentially useful, but *far* more prescriptive and > detailed than I had in mind. Both you and Nathaniel seem to have not > understood what I mea

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 9:46 AM Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 11:59 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 12:35 AM Nathaniel Smith wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 1:05 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> > I thi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 10:53 AM Dashamir Hoxha wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 10:01 AM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> >> Thanks! I know this is going to be a little complicated to get everyone >> on the same page. That's why I'm aiming to get a draft

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 12:07 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 10:53 AM Dashamir Hoxha > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 10:01 AM Ralf Gommers >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Thanks! I know this is going to be a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] defining a NumPy API standard?

2019-06-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 12:44 PM Dashamir Hoxha wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 12:12 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> >>>> Would it be useful if we could integrate the documentation system with >>>> a discussion forum (like Discourse.org)? Each func

Re: [Numpy-discussion] scientific Python featured in GitHub keynote

2019-06-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 11:58 AM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 2:19 AM Charles R Harris < > charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 4:09 PM Ralf Gommers >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >

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