Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-04 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
the law is the law.) --jh-- On 5/3/19 12:48 PM, numpy-discussion-requ...@python.org wrote: Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected) From: Mark Mikofski Date: 5/3/19, 12:47 PM To: Discussion of Numerical Python Sorry, that last attachment was just

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-04 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
On May 4, 2019, at 9:00 AM, Ralf Gommers Okay never mind, this is apparently happening already: https://hackmd.io/YbxTpC1ZT_aEapTqydmHCA. Please jump in there instead:) Slightly different focus than I had in mind, but yes, it makes sense to join that effort. -CHB Ralf > Cheers, > Ralf > >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-04 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 12:24 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:55 PM Stephen Waterbury > wrote: > >> Sure, I would be interested to discuss, let's try to meet up there. >> >> Steve >> >> On 5/3/19 12:23 PM, Chris Barker wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:51 PM Ralf Gommer

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-04 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:49 PM Mark Mikofski wrote: > Sorry, that last attachment was just a slide show of the topic 3 > recording, here is the full funding opportunity announcement - letter with > 200 word abstract are due May 7th > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:40 AM Mark Mikofski > wrote: > >> H

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-04 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:55 PM Stephen Waterbury wrote: > Sure, I would be interested to discuss, let's try to meet up there. > > Steve > > On 5/3/19 12:23 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:51 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:49 AM Stephen Waterbury >>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-03 Thread Joe Harrington
lations.  (Whether there is any benefit at all to the export control laws as applied to software is debatable, since it's usually easy for coders elsewhere to write the same codes, but the law is the law.) --jh-- On 5/3/19 12:48 PM, numpy-discussion-requ...@python.org wrote: Subject: Re

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-03 Thread Chris Barker
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 9:56 AM Stephen Waterbury wrote: > Sure, I would be interested to discuss, let's try to meet up there. > > OK< that's two of us :-) NumFocus folk: Should we take this off the list and talk about a BoF or something at SciPy? -CHB > Steve > > On 5/3/19 12:23 PM, Chris

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-03 Thread Stephen Waterbury
Sure, I would be interested to discuss, let's try to meet up there. Steve On 5/3/19 12:23 PM, Chris Barker wrote: On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:51 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:49 AM Stephen Waterbury mailto:water...@pangalactic.us>> wrot

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-03 Thread Chris Barker
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:51 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:49 AM Stephen Waterbury > wrote: > >> P.S. If anyone wants to continue this discussion at SciPy 2019, >> I will be there (on my own nickel! ;) ... >> > So will I (on NOAA's nickel, which I am grateful for) Maybe we

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-02 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:49 AM Stephen Waterbury wrote: > P.S. If anyone wants to continue this discussion at SciPy 2019, > I will be there (on my own nickel! ;) ... > Thanks for the input Stephen, and looking forward to see you at SciPy'19! Ralf Steve > > On 5/2/19 9:45 PM, Stephen Waterbu

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-02 Thread Stephen Waterbury
I am a NASA pythonista (for 20+ years ;), but you can now say you know yet another person at NASA who has no idea this even exists ... :) Not only do I not know of that, but I know of NASA policies that make it very difficult for NASA civil servants to contribute to open source projects -- quite h

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-02 Thread Stephen Waterbury
P.S.  If anyone wants to continue this discussion at SciPy 2019, I will be there (on my own nickel!  ;) ... Steve On 5/2/19 9:45 PM, Stephen Waterbury wrote: I am a NASA pythonista (for 20+ years ;), but you can now say you know yet another person at NASA who has no idea this even exists ... :

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-05-02 Thread Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
Sounds like this is a NASA specific thing, in which case, I guess someone at NASA would need to step up. I’m afraid I know no pythonistas at NASA. But I’ll poke around NOAA to see if there’s anything similar. -CHB On Apr 25, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:4

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-25 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:41 PM Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:03 PM Joe Harrington > wrote: > > >> 3. There's such a thing as a share-in-savings contract at NASA, in which >> you calculate a savings, such as from avoided costs of licensing IDL or >> Matlab, and say you'll

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-20 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:03 PM Joe Harrington wrote: > Hi Ralf, > > The rejection is disappointing, for sure. Some good ammo for next time > might be the recommendations in this report from the US National > Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine: > > http://sites.nationalacademies.or

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-20 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 5:27 PM Marten van Kerkwijk < m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Ralf, > Thanks for the feedback Marten, it's very valuable. We've gotten some more feedback from people experienced with applying for or reviewing NSF (and DOE, NASA, NIH) grants, it helps a lot in figuri

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-18 Thread Marten van Kerkwijk
Very much second Joe's recommendations - especially trying NASA - which has an amazing track record of open data also in astronomy (and a history of open source analysis tools, as well as the "Astrophysics Data System"). -- Marten ___ NumPy-Discussion mai

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-18 Thread Joe Harrington
Hi Ralf, The rejection is disappointing, for sure.  Some good ammo for next time might be the recommendations in this report from the US National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine: http://sites.nationalacademies.org/SSB/CurrentProjects/SSB_178892 https://www.nap.edu/read/25217/

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-18 Thread Marten van Kerkwijk
Hi Ralf, I'm sorry to hear the proposal did not pass the first round, but, having looked at it briefly (about as much time as I would have spent had I been on the panel), I have to admit I am not surprised: it is nice but nice is not enough for a competition like this. Compared to what will have

[Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

2019-04-18 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi all, A number of core projects (NumPy, SciPy, Matplotlib, Pandas, scikit-learn) got together and put in a proposal to NSF for a large 5 year grant, and it was unfortunately just rejected. We now published the proposal, which may be of interest: https://figshare.com/articles/Mid-Scale_Research_I