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alan0428a commented on PR #2691:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2691#issuecomment-2209669545
@vy
Thanks for your feedback! Actually I am happy we have this careful reveiw
process, so that we have high standard codes.
Back to the topic, I also agree that this re
ppkarwasz commented on issue #2679:
URL:
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To be more precise, the `StrLookup` parses the string
`${env:TZ:-%d{-MM-dd HH:mm:ss}{GMT+00}}` as:
1. A lookup expression (`${env:TZ:-%d{-MM-dd HH:mm:ss}`), w
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vy opened a new pull request, #79:
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Tipped by @breun, users find it confusing which logger creation mechanism to
choose from. This PR is improves the documentation in that direction.
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vy commented on PR #2691:
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> I saw at `xxxThrowablePatternConverter#format()` we do conditions checking
whether `event.getThrownProxy() is null`. But when will it be null?
I presume, since `ThrowableProxy`
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ngocnhan-tran1996 commented on issue #2679:
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Hi @vy , @ppkarwasz
I have a PR but I think this has more edge case. Please take a look and tell
me if I miss something
https://github.com/apache/logg
ppkarwasz commented on PR #2712:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2712#issuecomment-2210973106
@ngocnhan-tran1996,
Thank you for the PR.
Unfortunately this does not solve #2679, but just your particular problem
with the `%d{...}` pattern converter as default value
vy opened a new pull request, #2716:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2716
This *incomplete* work ports #2696 to `main`.
The following tasks still need to be done:
- [ ] Adapt `plugins.adoc` for Log4j 3
- Artifact has changed
- Package paths have changed
ppkarwasz opened a new pull request, #2717:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2717
In this PR we:
- add a section about the filtering process, that explains in detail all the
places, where a filter can be configured.
- add the description of 3 filters,
- improve
alan0428a commented on PR #2691:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2691#issuecomment-2211071869
@vy
Just want to make sure we are on the same page.
So for `xxxThrowablePatternConverter#format()`, the existing implementation
is that when `event.getThrownProxy()` i
ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2715:
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ppkarwasz commented on issue #2679:
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Looking at [bash parameter
expansion](https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Shell-Parameter-Expansion.html),
I would propose to just introduce a simple escape
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@ppkarwasz
I try to create class `ConverterKeysSubstitutor` for pattern specifiers `
%{...}`. Please take a look and give me more test or some advice.
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rgoers commented on PR #2691:
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As I recall ThrowableProxy was introduced so that LogEvents could be
remotely shipped to remove systems. We no longer support doing that kind of
thing using Java Serialization. So I
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MehdiChinoune opened a new issue, #388:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4cxx/issues/388
```
[133/160] Building CXX object
src/main/cpp/CMakeFiles/log4cxx.dir/threadutility.cpp.obj
FAILED: src/main/cpp/CMakeFiles/log4cxx.dir/threadutility.cpp.obj
D:\Programs\msys64_test\ucr
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vy commented on code in PR #2715:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2715#discussion_r1667749244
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limitations under the License.
-= Using Log4j in Cloud Enabled Application
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swebb2066 commented on issue #388:
URL:
https://github.com/apache/logging-log4cxx/issues/388#issuecomment-2213096971
@MehdiChinoune Please post the version of mingw-w64 and g++ that you are
using.
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MehdiChinoune commented on issue #388:
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mingw-w64: master (12.0.0+r81)
g++: 14.1.0
I installed them (with apr and apr-util) from MSYS2/UCRT64 environment
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ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2717#discussion_r1668109357
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[id=filters]
= Filters
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-Log4j supports filtering of log eve
vy commented on code in PR #2717:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2717#discussion_r1668112344
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[id=filters]
= Filters
+:stem:
-Log4j supports filtering of log events at
ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2717#discussion_r1668159863
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src/site/antora/modules/ROOT/pages/manual/filters.adoc:
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[id=filters]
= Filters
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-Log4j supports filtering of log eve
ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2717#discussion_r1668160252
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src/site/antora/modules/ROOT/pages/manual/filters.adoc:
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[id=filters]
= Filters
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-Log4j supports filtering of log eve
swebb2066 commented on issue #388:
URL:
https://github.com/apache/logging-log4cxx/issues/388#issuecomment-2213291857
@MehdiChinoune I was unable to reproduce the error using gcc 13.2.0
I have not managed to upgrade gcc to 14.1.0. Using the command
```pacman -U
/c/users/steph/Downl
ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2717#discussion_r1668209963
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[id=filters]
= Filters
+:stem:
-Log4j supports filtering of log eve
ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2717#discussion_r1668211811
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[id=filters]
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-Log4j supports filtering of log eve
MehdiChinoune commented on issue #388:
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MehdiChinoune commented on issue #388:
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I have managed to build it with mingw-w64-gcc
https://github.com/msys2/MINGW-packages/commit/59ce40c8db
but the patch breaks building with mingw-w64-clang.
To make
ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
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ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
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vy commented on PR #2691:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2691#issuecomment-2213522269
@rgoers, I very much liked the idea of retiring `ThrowableProxy`. I analyzed
the possibility of this. I will share my findings below.
### What does Logback do?
AFAIK, Log4j
ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
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ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
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ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
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ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2717#discussion_r1668336523
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ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2717#discussion_r1668338950
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+"monitorInterval": 10,
Review
vy commented on code in PR #2717:
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-Log4j supports filtering of log events at
ppkarwasz commented on PR #2691:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2691#issuecomment-2213652711
@vy,
> 1. Create a new _internal_ (package-private, etc.)
`ThrowableRenderer` class taking care of `Throwable` (not `ThrowableProxy`!)
rendering such that:
I wo
ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2717:
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vy commented on code in PR #2717:
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-Log4j supports filtering of log events at each level
vy commented on code in PR #2717:
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vy commented on PR #2691:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2691#issuecomment-2213682324
> I would rather retrofit `PatternConverter` with a generic parameter `T` to
indicate the type of object supported by the converter.
@ppkarwasz, agreed, but that would be a breaki
ppkarwasz commented on code in PR #2715:
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ppkarwasz commented on PR #2691:
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> @ppkarwasz, agreed, but that would be a breaking change, right? IMHO, it
stretches the focus of this PR far too much. Let's just start with
consolidating the existing `Throwabl
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ppkarwasz closed issue #2529: Revamp the `Filters` page
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rm5248 commented on issue #388:
URL:
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>To make it work on both, It should detect whether the threading library is
posix (default for g++/libstdc++ through winpthreads) or win32 (default for
clang++/libc++).
alan0428a commented on PR #2691:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2691#issuecomment-2214111273
I don't have feedback on deprecating `ThrowableProxy`, as you are more
familiar with the historical background than I am.
> // You need `StackLocatorUtil.getCurrentStackTrace(
blaghed opened a new issue, #2720:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/issues/2720
When integrating Slf4J with Log4J, I make use of the `log4j-slf4j-impl`
library.
Then, typically, when logging something this will be the classical approach
used:
```java
public class M
MehdiChinoune commented on issue #388:
URL:
https://github.com/apache/logging-log4cxx/issues/388#issuecomment-2214226181
> > To make it work on both, It should detect whether the threading library
is posix (default for g++/libstdc++ through winpthreads) or win32 (default for
clang++/libc++
Nef91 opened a new issue, #2721:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/issues/2721
Hello, below is my login configuration file, the main assumptions are:
- maximum 5 logs per day, 20 MB each
- deleting logs older than 21 days
- log backup every day at midnight
`
blaghed commented on issue #2720:
URL:
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Is it alright if I create a suggested PR for this? I would really rather
avoid the Apache "mailing list" stuff, though...
Worth noting that some of the other integrations o
kojinoguchi opened a new issue, #2722:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/issues/2722
## Description
When using SimpleLayout provided in log4j-1.2-api, it doesn't log anything.
Is this by design?
In log4j1, it used to log with “%level - %m%n” pattern ?
## Repro
jvz commented on code in PR #2716:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2716#discussion_r1668960552
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src/site/antora/modules/ROOT/pages/manual/architecture.adoc:
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= Architecture
-== Main Components
-
-Log4j uses the classes shown
vy commented on PR #2691:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2691#issuecomment-2215038458
> It seems to me this PR is more complicated then I thought and is more like
refactoring now. But I will try my best to understand it.
@alan0428a, thanks so much for your patience
vy commented on issue #2720:
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@blaghed, good news is, you don't need to deal with _the mailing list
stuff_. We would be more than happy to assist you here.
Can you explain what kind of a cache you see ot
ppkarwasz commented on issue #2720:
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https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/issues/2720#issuecomment-2215258488
The idea behind instance loggers is a nice one: if an application server
shares your library between applications, instance loggers should allow you to
log messages to the
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zekronium commented on issue #1532:
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Any possibility of backporting this to 2.x?
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swebb2066 commented on issue #388:
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> To make it work on both, It should detect whether the threading library is
posix (default for g++/libstdc++ through winpthreads) or win32 (default for
clang++/libc++).
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MehdiChinoune commented on issue #388:
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https://github.com/apache/logging-log4cxx/issues/388#issuecomment-2216333693
- It detects pthread only for UNIX.
- It searches for pthread but doesn't search for the threading backend of
C++ threading. Winpthread exists for mingw-w64-clang but
swebb2066 commented on issue #388:
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https://github.com/apache/logging-log4cxx/issues/388#issuecomment-2216506215
> It detects pthread only for UNIX
mingw64 cmake seems to set UNIX to true
When I build log4cxx using /mingw64/bin/clang++.exe version 18.1.8, the
macro LOG4CXX
MehdiChinoune commented on issue #388:
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https://github.com/apache/logging-log4cxx/issues/388#issuecomment-2216530940
> > It detects pthread only for UNIX
>
> mingw64 cmake seems to set UNIX to true
No, It does not
> When I build log4cxx using /mingw64/bin/clang++.ex
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ppkarwasz commented on PR #2718:
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@dependabot rebase
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swebb2066 commented on issue #388:
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https://github.com/apache/logging-log4cxx/issues/388#issuecomment-2216697333
Yes, I see that UNIX is not true using mingw-w64-x86_64-cmake. Using the
information in [this stack overflow
post](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60794524/how-to-detect
ppkarwasz commented on PR #2712:
URL: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/pull/2712#issuecomment-2216804216
> IMHO `StrLookup` should be aware of the existence and syntax of pattern
specifiers `%{...}`, it should just count the number of `{` and `}`.
We also need to have a mechanism to
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MehdiChinoune commented on issue #388:
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> > The issue is about detecting the C++ threading backend on MinGW.
>
> It seems pthread and Win32 threading are available. We need to pick one.
No, that's
swebb2066 commented on issue #388:
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https://github.com/apache/logging-log4cxx/issues/388#issuecomment-2216901619
> If you try to use one with the other It won't work.
Using the following code
```
#include
#include
int main(){
pthread_t tid = pthread_self(
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