Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-25 Thread John Curran
On Sep 24, 2013, at 3:38 PM, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: >> Is there an indication or separate list that shows if they've been recycled? > > Hi Frank, > > Looks like they post a "remove" message when a block is returned to > the registry and then

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-24 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: > Is there an indication or separate list that shows if they've been recycled? Hi Frank, Looks like they post a "remove" message when a block is returned to the registry and then an "add' when it's reassigned. For example, Derrick's block (74.11

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-24 Thread John Curran
On Sep 24, 2013, at 7:58 AM, John Curran wrote: > On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > >> Which is irrelevent to removing a address block on the basis of a >> RIR recording that the block has been reallocated. A reallocation >> already goes through a quarantine period though that

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-24 Thread John Curran
On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > Which is irrelevent to removing a address block on the basis of a > RIR recording that the block has been reallocated. A reallocation > already goes through a quarantine period though that may get shorter > as time goes on. > > A transfer on t

RE: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-19 Thread Frank Bulk
Is there an indication or separate list that shows if they've been recycled? Frank -Original Message- From: James Cloos [mailto:cl...@jhcloos.com] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:26 PM To: nanog Cc: Timothy Metzinger Subject: Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-19 Thread James Cloos
> "TM" == Timothy Metzinger writes: TM> or ARIN publishes a list of IP assignments that can be TM> used by ISPs to provisionally remove them from blocked lists? Arin publishes all new assignments to : List-Help: List-Subscribe:

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-19 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:59:13AM -0500, John LeCoque wrote: > I would say the first step is to find an immediate workaround for your end > users - maybe bring up a VM on AWS or some other cloud provider to use as > an SMTP relay while you work out the blacklist issue. Not a good idea. It's a be

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <523a6203.8090...@trelane.net>, Andrew D Kirch writes: > On 9/18/2013 9:02 PM, John Levine wrote: > >> This is pathetic. ARIN is supposed to be working as a steward of this > >> IP space. When you have policies that make it more difficult to use the > >> IP space this isn't even remot

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew D Kirch
On 9/18/2013 9:02 PM, John Levine wrote: This is pathetic. ARIN is supposed to be working as a steward of this IP space. When you have policies that make it more difficult to use the IP space this isn't even remotely close to stewardship. It's pathetic, Unfortunately, a surprising number of "n

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread John Levine
>This is pathetic. ARIN is supposed to be working as a steward of this >IP space. When you have policies that make it more difficult to use the >IP space this isn't even remotely close to stewardship. It's pathetic, Unfortunately, a surprising number of "new" IP space owners turn out to be th

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread David Miller
On 9/18/2013 8:16 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: > On 9/18/13 6:10 PM, David Miller wrote: > > >> On 9/18/2013 7:30 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: >>> On 9/18/2013 7:15 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: On 9/18/13 5:07 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > On 9/18/2013 6:55 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: >>> I used t

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Carlos Kamtha
database tools and our IP addresses are not listed, but we are still > being blocked by both AT&T and Network Solution. The block message is 521 > DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse. In an attempt to be proactive, I contacted > Network Solution and was told that each recipient would have

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread staticsafe
On 9/18/2013 8:16 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Those also are statistics not actual IP block numbers being deallocated/allocated. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Usi

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Tammy Firefly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/18/13 6:10 PM, David Miller wrote: > > > On 9/18/2013 7:30 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: >> On 9/18/2013 7:15 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: >>> On 9/18/13 5:07 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: On 9/18/2013 6:55 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: >> I used to run

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Tammy Firefly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/18/13 6:10 PM, David Miller wrote: > > > On 9/18/2013 7:30 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: >> On 9/18/2013 7:15 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: >>> On 9/18/13 5:07 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: On 9/18/2013 6:55 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: >> I used to run

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread David Miller
On 9/18/2013 7:30 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > On 9/18/2013 7:15 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: >> On 9/18/13 5:07 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: >>> On 9/18/2013 6:55 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: > I used to run the AHBL and ARIN used to contact us when they > recycled IP > space. We always removed

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew D Kirch
On 9/18/2013 7:15 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: On 9/18/13 5:07 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: On 9/18/2013 6:55 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: I used to run the AHBL and ARIN used to contact us when they recycled IP space. We always removed when contacted by ARIN. Andrew ARIN hasnt contacted us for this s

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew D Kirch
On 9/18/2013 6:55 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: I used to run the AHBL and ARIN used to contact us when they recycled IP space. We always removed when contacted by ARIN. Andrew ARIN hasnt contacted us for this since i've been involved with the ahbl for ~5 years. just a FYI. Well, it'd seem we fou

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Tammy Firefly
On 9/18/13 4:46 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > On 9/18/2013 6:41 PM, Timothy Metzinger wrote: >> Here's a thought. Would it be possible to set up a process where >> ARIN, as >> part of reselling IP addresses, either issues a certificate of >> transfer that >> the new owner can use to prove to the ISP

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew D Kirch
On 9/18/2013 6:41 PM, Timothy Metzinger wrote: Here's a thought. Would it be possible to set up a process where ARIN, as part of reselling IP addresses, either issues a certificate of transfer that the new owner can use to prove to the ISPs that he's a new owner and not the old evil spammer, or

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread John LeCoque
ils to any AT&T or > Network Solutions hosted email we are being block as a spam abuser. I > checked varies spam database tools and our IP addresses are not listed, but > we are still being blocked by both AT&T and Network Solution. The block > message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abus

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Jean-Francois . TremblayING
> > Our mail server IP address is 74.112.99.25. Is it possible they > are blocking us based on old information from the previous IP > address block owner? > > Quite likely, yes. https://www.arin.net/resources/whowas/ Found it to be of use for this type of question. Registration required. Geo

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Michael Schuler
ing block as a spam abuser. I checked varies > spam database tools and our IP addresses are not listed, but we are still > being blocked by both AT&T and Network Solution. The block message is 521 > DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse. In an attempt to be proactive, I contacted >

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Sep 18, 2013, at 9:07 AM, NANOG wrote: > We recently purchased new IP addresses from ARIN No, actually, you didn't. You were assigned the use of the addresses, based on need. Just as a radio station does not "purchase" spectrum. https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four3 > Our mail serv

The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-18 Thread NANOG
are still being blocked by both AT&T and Network Solution. The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse. In an attempt to be proactive, I contacted Network Solution and was told that each recipient would have to request we be whitelisted, and AT&T directed me to an online