Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 05/09/14 07:16, Jay Ashworth wrote: > How many Youtube subject tags will fit in *your* routers' TCAM? > > > http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/09/04/2156232/ucla-cisco-more-launch-consortium-to-replace-tcpip > > [ Can someone convince me this isn't the biggest troll in the history > of the

Re: Security Track @ NANOG 62 Call for Participation

2014-09-05 Thread Randy Bush
of course i can make noise about the rpki and origin validation, if that is of help. and i do not need to know more than a few days in advance. but i would love 15 mins to talk about progress on cryptech, and hope to have a toy to show off. > If you want your PGP key

Re: Weekly CIDR Reports

2014-09-05 Thread ITechGeek
What is sent to the list only shows possible bogus routes and unstable routes. I'm looking for the more complete ( http://www.cidr-report.org/as2.0/as-prefixes.txt). --- -ITG (ITechGeek) i...@itechgeek.com

Re: Weekly CIDR Reports

2014-09-05 Thread staticsafe
On 9/5/2014 20:03, ITechGeek wrote: > Does anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the Announced and > Withdrawn prefix list a couple weeks ago? Is that weekly list archived > somewhere? > > --- > -

Re: Weekly CIDR Reports

2014-09-05 Thread Shrdlu
On 9/5/2014 5:03 PM, ITechGeek wrote: Does anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the Announced and Withdrawn prefix list a couple weeks ago? Is that weekly list archived somewhere? Which weeks? I'm pretty compulsive, and have most of them. -- "They had discovered Mr. Slippery's True

Weekly CIDR Reports

2014-09-05 Thread ITechGeek
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the Announced and Withdrawn prefix list a couple weeks ago? Is that weekly list archived somewhere? --- -ITG (ITechGeek) i...@itechgeek.com https://itg.n

Re: no more "Send through Gmail" option

2014-09-05 Thread Royce Williams
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Hugo Slabbert wrote: >> If it really was more the former, there would be a "if your SPF >> records include:_spf.google.com, you can still do it" option, IMO. > > > Manager: So, you're saying if we just check the SPF record when they set up > the account, we could st

Re: no more "Send through Gmail" option

2014-09-05 Thread ITechGeek
As a replacement, you can use Amazon SES and verify single email addresses if you don't have access over the whole domain. --- -ITG (ITechGeek) i...@itechgeek.com https://itg.nu/ GPG Keys: https://itg.nu/co

Re: no more "Send through Gmail" option

2014-09-05 Thread Hugo Slabbert
If it really was more the former, there would be a "if your SPF records include:_spf.google.com, you can still do it" option, IMO. Manager: So, you're saying if we just check the SPF record when they set up the account, we could still let them do it. Tech: Yes, except if they also use DKIM; t

Re: no more "Send through Gmail" option

2014-09-05 Thread Royce Williams
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Eduardo A. Suárez wrote: > > Hi, > > according to this thread: > > https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/gmail/GyeMcHv1U-g%5B1-25-false%5D > > Gmail isn't allowing anymore "Send through Gmail" option. Yep. Existing email-address setups are grandfa

no more "Send through Gmail" option

2014-09-05 Thread Eduardo A. Suárez
Hi, according to this thread: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/gmail/GyeMcHv1U-g%5B1-25-false%5D Gmail isn't allowing anymore "Send through Gmail" option. Eduardo.- -- Eduardo A. Suarez Mecánico Unix - Plomero de redes Facultad de Ciencias Astronómicas y Geofísicas - UN

BGP Update Report

2014-09-05 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 28-Aug-14 -to- 04-Sep-14 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS23752 202735 4.3%1547.6 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation, Intern

The Cidr Report

2014-09-05 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 5 21:14:08 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Murat Yuksel wrote: > As far as I understand, NDN's basic premise is to > install "names" into the network layer. Hi Murat, If they think names belong at layer 4 instead of layer 7 I can offer a couple insights on how this might be used to make layer 3 cheaper and

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Jay Ashworth > It sounds to me like they want to put *Google* in every router. > > Cause no one who posits this stuff has, apparently, ever had to do network > diagnosis. Probably more focussed on selling you your internet keyword brandon

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 9/5/2014 12:49 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 12:38:13 -0700, Paul Ferguson said: >> The principle questions still stand unanswered: >> >> What is the motivation for this? What do you gain? Does it create >> some large

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 12:38:13 -0700, Paul Ferguson said: > The principle questions still stand unanswered: > > What is the motivation for this? What do you gain? Does it create some > large architectural and performance in efficiency? How often do the copyright owners on content give a flying fig

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Murat Yuksel
On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Sander Steffann wrote: > Hi, > >> How many Youtube subject tags will fit in *your* routers' TCAM? >> >> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/09/04/2156232/ucla-cisco-more-launch-consortium-to-replace-tcpip >> >> [ Can someone convince me this isn't the biggest troll

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The principle questions still stand unanswered: What is the motivation for this? What do you gain? Does it create some large architectural and performance in efficiency? - - ferg On 9/5/2014 12:27 PM, Murat Yuksel wrote: > As far as I understand,

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Murat Yuksel
As far as I understand, NDN's basic premise is to install "names" into the network layer. I don't think they (the NDN inventors) consider it as a new "app" at this point, even tough eventually it may merely stay as a new app. I think the final thing that will determine the success of NDN is whet

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Sander Steffann" > > How many Youtube subject tags will fit in *your* routers' TCAM? > > > > > > http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/09/04/2156232/ucla-cisco-more-launch-consortium-to-replace-tcpip > > > > [ Can someone convince me this isn't the biggest trol

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > How many Youtube subject tags will fit in *your* routers' TCAM? > > > http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/09/04/2156232/ucla-cisco-more-launch-consortium-to-replace-tcpip > > [ Can someone convince me this isn't the biggest troll in the history > of the internet? Cause it sounds like shoe

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Field, Brian
Here¹s my $0.02. I¹m only going to touch on a small part of what I understand NDN to be‹ namely making caching a first class citizen of the network. When you think about the types of traffic currently carried over our collective networks, there might be value if the network eco system more nati

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Barry Shein
Interesting, here are my speaking notes from a talk I gave at Hackerspace/SG in June 2011. Slightly different but in a similar spirit depending on your sense of "similar": THE END OF DNS A Quick History The internet uses host names but routing is done based on numer

Weekly Routing Table Report

2014-09-05 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.ap

Security Track @ NANOG 62 Call for Participation

2014-09-05 Thread John Kristoff
Friends, colleagues, fellow operators, The network security track, formerly known as the ISP security BoF, will be on the agenda at NANOG 62 in Baltimore and I will be the track facilitator. My good friend Krassimir (Krassi) Tzvetanov many of you may know, has also agreed to help coordinate. We

Re: Prefix hijacking, how to prevent and fix currently

2014-09-05 Thread Doug Madory
Hi Nick, All, Thanks for the links. I'm glad to know people are working on this. I don't think anyone was suggesting that this was a new phenomenon. Someone wrote to this list about a particular incident and I shared details about how this was part of a larger IP squatting operation. Unique fr

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/09/04/2156232/ucla-cisco-more-launch-consortium-to-replace-tcpip > > Can someone convince me this isn't the biggest troll in the history > of the internet? Not me. The description of the thing wanders in

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2014-09-05 14:58 +), Gary Dunaway wrote: > Given how long the process has been to go from IPv4 to IPv6, I would imagine > something like this taking much longer to take root and spread out to the > masses. It is a curious concept though and the papers written on the > consortium site ma

RE: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Gary Dunaway
>> How many Youtube subject tags will fit in *your* routers' TCAM? >> >> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/09/04/2156232/ucla-cisco-more-launch >> -consortium-to-replace-tcpip >> >> [ Can someone convince me this isn't the biggest troll in the history >> of the internet? Cause it sounds like s

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread me
On 09/05/2014 08:40 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 9/5/2014 7:35 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: "Interface" sure. But the dangers of replacing actual /addresses/ with things which are not is sufficiently well understood that even Van Jacobson ought to kn

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 9/5/2014 7:35 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > "Interface" sure. > > But the dangers of replacing actual /addresses/ with things which > are not is sufficiently well understood that even Van Jacobson > ought to know about 'em, right? :-) > Compare &

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Jay Ashworth
"Interface" sure. But the dangers of replacing actual /addresses/ with things which are not is sufficiently well understood that even Van Jacobson ought to know about 'em, right? :-) On September 5, 2014 10:27:18 AM EDT, Paul Ferguson wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA256

Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 9/5/2014 7:16 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > How many Youtube subject tags will fit in *your* routers' TCAM? > > http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/09/04/2156232/ucla-cisco-more-launch-consortium-to-replace-tcpip > > [ Can someone convince me this is

The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

2014-09-05 Thread Jay Ashworth
How many Youtube subject tags will fit in *your* routers' TCAM? http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/09/04/2156232/ucla-cisco-more-launch-consortium-to-replace-tcpip [ Can someone convince me this isn't the biggest troll in the history of the internet? Cause it sounds like shoehorning DNS /and G

Re: Call for Presentations RIPE 69

2014-09-05 Thread Filiz Yilmaz
Dear colleagues, Following the past submission deadline here is an update from the RIPE PC: A list of currently accepted RIPE 69 presentations will be published next week and a separate note will be sent to the ripe-list once this is out. There are still slots remaining for the final RIPE 69 pro

TPF 1 - Istanbul, TR

2014-09-05 Thread Mehmet Akcin
NANOG Friends, There have been several exciting developments in order to kick start a major Internet Exchange Point in Turkey in past months. We are , several peering enthusiasts , organizing Turkish Peering Forum in Istanbul, September 29 , 2014. More details can be found about the event at bel