Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-08-21 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 07:15:11PM +0300, Maxim Tarasov wrote: This affects prefilled subject of a reply to an email with an empty subject. Applied. -- Kevin J. McCarthy GPG Fingerprint: 8975 A9B3 3AA3 7910 385C 5308 ADEF 7684 8031 6BDA signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-08-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2020-07-25 00:20:22 +0300, Maxim Tarasov wrote: > Here are some other things to consider about "Re:" > > 1) It is recognized by RFC5322: > > When used in a reply, the field body MAY start with the > string "Re: " (an abbreviation of the Latin "in re", meaning "in the > matter of") follow

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2020-08-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2020-07-24 09:42:06 -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 05:03:09PM +1200, Tom Ryder wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 06:56:38AM +0200, Claus Assmann wrote: > > > > Would you or Maxim consider making it a _("translatable > > > > string")---or perhaps even better, a configu

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-27 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, On Friday, 2020-07-24 13:01:03 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > I think some other mailers default to something like > "Re: (no subject)" which seems more suitable to me. I agree. Eike -- OpenPGP/GnuPG encrypted mail preferred in all private communication. GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-25 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
I agree with the proposed change, to reply to an empty Subject: with just "Re:" (or whatever, if that reply-marking string is configurable). My taste says that an empty or absent Subject: is valid, and should not be forbidden or "corrected".

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread Maxim Tarasov
> A sole "Re:" is equally spammy, I've seen enough spam trying to hit with > just that. I don't think we should be focusing on combating spam with these subjects. Spammers will probably pick up on any pattern we might come up with. The reason I mentioned "spamminess" is that "Re: your mail", when

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread Maxim Tarasov
> > "Re:" is a standard that should not be translated. > > Except some languages don't use it. I think, many languages include Latin words and abbreviations in some form. There are a many Latin words used in biology, medicine, philosophy, formal literature etc. I would argue that Latin, being a

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread Maxim Tarasov
> > First, "Re: your mail" sounds like a spam mail heading and doesn't > > convey any useful information. > > True enough, but, the fault is with the original sender for not > providing a meaningful subject, and if they don't want to receive > responses that look like spam they should...not do th

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Kevin, On Thursday, 2020-07-23 09:44:18 -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > -env->subject = safe_strdup ("Re: your mail"); > > +env->subject = safe_strdup ("Re:"); > > I agree the default is weird, but I'd like to give time for others to chime > in about this first. I'll wait a week

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, On Friday, 2020-07-24 13:01:39 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 06:56:38AM +0200, Claus Assmann wrote: > > "Re:" is a standard that should not be translated. > > Except some languages don't use it. Rather "some MUAs don't use it in some languages" and those MUAs are brok

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 06:56:38AM +0200, Claus Assmann wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, Tom Ryder wrote: > > > > > +env->subject = safe_strdup ("Re:"); > > > Would you or Maxim consider making it a _("translatable string")---or > > perhaps even better, a configurable one---for those who speak

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 07:15:11PM +0300, Maxim Tarasov wrote: > First, "Re: your mail" sounds like a spam mail heading and doesn't > convey any useful information. True enough, but, the fault is with the original sender for not providing a meaningful subject, and if they don't want to receive re

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 05:03:09PM +1200, Tom Ryder wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 06:56:38AM +0200, Claus Assmann wrote: Would you or Maxim consider making it a _("translatable string")---or perhaps even better, a configurable one---for those who speak other languages? Other than Latin? "Re:

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread ilf
Maxim Tarasov: +env->subject = safe_strdup ("Re:"); I agree that this should be the default value. -- ilf If you upload your address book to "the cloud", I don't want to be in it.

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread Tom Ryder
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 06:56:38AM +0200, Claus Assmann wrote: Would you or Maxim consider making it a _("translatable string")---or perhaps even better, a configurable one---for those who speak other languages? Other than Latin? "Re:" is a standard that should not be translated. Agreed; wha

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-24 Thread Tom Ryder
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 09:44:18AM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 07:15:11PM +0300, Maxim Tarasov wrote: This affects prefilled subject of a reply to an email with an empty subject. --- -env->subject = safe_strdup ("Re: your mail"); +env->subject = safe_strdup (

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-23 Thread Claus Assmann
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, Tom Ryder wrote: > > > +env->subject = safe_strdup ("Re:"); > Would you or Maxim consider making it a _("translatable string")---or > perhaps even better, a configurable one---for those who speak other > languages? Other than Latin? "Re:" is a standard that should not b

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-23 Thread Aaron Schrab
At 19:15 +0300 23 Jul 2020, Maxim Tarasov wrote: First, "Re: your mail" sounds like a spam mail heading and doesn't convey any useful information. I'd say that both of those points would still apply with the proposed change. Second, setting the subject to just "Re:" will enable the user to

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-23 Thread Remco Rijnders
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 09:44:18AM -0700, Kevin wrote in <20200723164418.gb235...@afu.lan>: On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 07:15:11PM +0300, Maxim Tarasov wrote: This affects prefilled subject of a reply to an email with an empty subject. --- -env->subject = safe_strdup ("Re: your mail"); +env

Re: [PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-23 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 07:15:11PM +0300, Maxim Tarasov wrote: This affects prefilled subject of a reply to an email with an empty subject. --- -env->subject = safe_strdup ("Re: your mail"); +env->subject = safe_strdup ("Re:"); I agree the default is weird, but I'd like to give time fo

[PATCH] Change hardcoded subject of replies

2020-07-23 Thread Maxim Tarasov
This affects prefilled subject of a reply to an email with an empty subject. --- Let me explain why I think this is a good idea. First, "Re: your mail" sounds like a spam mail heading and doesn't convey any useful information. Second, setting the subject to just "Re:" will enable the user to