Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

t;> pose however... > First, let me add my thanks to Theo and the guys for the continued existence > of OpenBSD. You and your work *are* appreciated. ...which was in reply to my post of 03/30, which began as follows: Michael Grigoni wrote: > William Chivers wrote: >> Hello

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team,some of us appreciate you!

continued existence of OpenBSD. You and your work *are* appreciated. ...which was in reply to my post of 03/30, which began as follows: Michael Grigoni wrote: William Chivers wrote: Hello, Thank you Theo and your team of developers for OpenBSD. Some people responding to the "European

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team,some of us appreciate you!

And can I ask you Michael what any of this has to do with my original post? Look at the subject. Why not start your own thread instead of hi-jacking someone else's? Bill - William J. Chivers Lecturer in Information Technology School of DCIT Faculty of

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* Michael Grigoni [2009-04-30 21:42]: > Henning Brauer wrote: > >> * Michael Grigoni [2009-04-30 19:51]: > > >> >> we do not tend to drop support for hardware. happens for really really >> ancient stuff (>10years) from time to time, but even that seldom. > > In the context of this discussion, th

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

Henning Brauer wrote: * Michael Grigoni [2009-04-30 19:51]: we do not tend to drop support for hardware. happens for really really ancient stuff (>10years) from time to time, but even that seldom. In the context of this discussion, the hardware is about 17 years old. if you spent your

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

* Michael Grigoni [2009-04-30 19:51]: > I agree online threats change; my argument is for a stable core o/s, with > patches made for threat mitigation and stable API and ABI and configuration > within a major release number, to make life easier for small shops that > can't afford to shoot at movin

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

Steve Fairhead wrote: Second, you mentioned embedded work, which is my main work area. Yes, embedded stuff needs to be stable long-term - but the Internet isn't: threats change, and OpenBSD evolves. A classic solution to that (which I've used) is to simply accept that the legacy embedded stuff

Re: European orders(Sweden) - nohup.se

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Maxim Bourmistrov wrote: > Hello misc@, hi! > it has been almost a week since I sent an invoice for OpenBSD 4.5 CD/t-shirt > to nohup.se. > Well, there is no answer so far and the webpage is outdated and promoting > old releases. their webpage doesn't even load

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Maxim Bourmistrov wrote: > Hello misc@, > it has been almost a week since I sent an invoice for OpenBSD 4.5 > CD/t-shirt to nohup.se. Did you really mean you sent an _invoice_ to them? > Well, there is no answer so far and the webpage is outdated and > promoting old releases. > > Any one from Swe

European orders(Sweden) - nohup.se

Hello misc@, it has been almost a week since I sent an invoice for OpenBSD 4.5 CD/t- shirt to nohup.se. Well, there is no answer so far and the webpage is outdated and promoting old releases. Any one from Sweden has ever successfully ordered anything from this site lately? Any other (succe

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It has already been explained in detail. > OK then, can someone explain from the start to the end how this was set up ? > Please include prices and discounts. I'm still confused about the > method and reading again the thread is not helpful. > > Thanks > > On 4/18/09, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >>

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OK then, can someone explain from the start to the end how this was set up ? Please include prices and discounts. I'm still confused about the method and reading again the thread is not helpful. Thanks On 4/18/09, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> I was comming late to the show since I was enjoying my hol

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> I was comming late to the show since I was enjoying my holliday. > Please confirm or deny the theory I got from the long thread. > > I got the ideea that Wim received the CDs from source with 40% from > the real price. Then, Wim must return the 60% "profit" back to the > store. no, no no no no.

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On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 04:57:35PM +0300, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote: > Can someone post a picture with Wim's news house. Just to see if it's > a good match for the watch. Stop picking on him already. Picking on him is childish and is not gonna solve the problem. If you want to do something constru

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Hello, I was comming late to the show since I was enjoying my holliday. Please confirm or deny the theory I got from the long thread. I got the ideea that Wim received the CDs from source with 40% from the real price. Then, Wim must return the 60% "profit" back to the store. How I see it is Wim h

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On 13/04/2009, Sico Bruins wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:29:22AM +0930, David Walker wrote: > > [citation needed] http://bit.ly/3dMFBs >>>Best message on this thread in days. >> >> Agreed. >> Several gems in a row. >> >>>And probably the last one worth reading. Including this one.

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On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:29:22AM +0930, David Walker wrote: [citation needed] >>> http://bit.ly/3dMFBs >>Best message on this thread in days. > > Agreed. > Several gems in a row. > >>And probably the last one worth reading. Including this one. All are invited >>to join me in a nice hot c

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Artur Grabowski wrote: > > Is it troll-week on m...@? > if only it could be confined to one week a year...

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Thank you Theo and your team of developers for OpenBSD. >> >> Some people responding to the "European Orders" thread seem to have lost >> sight of what OpenBSD is and who develops it. I am a bit of a newbie here >> (althoug

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

Slightly late in responding to this, but hey: Michael Grigoni wrote: >> William Chivers wrote: > Thank you Theo and your team of developers for OpenBSD. > > Some people responding to the "European Orders" thread seem to have lost sight of what OpenBSD is and who dev

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>>> [citation needed] >> http://bit.ly/3dMFBs >Best message on this thread in days. Agreed. Several gems in a row. >And probably the last one worth reading. Including this one. All are invited >to join me in a nice hot cup of STFU. Subscribed to show my appreciation ... Thanks for the roflcopte

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> -Original Message- > From: Damien Miller [mailto:d...@mindrot.org] > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:14 PM > To: ropers > Cc: Lazarus Wasbeim; Artur Grabowski; misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: European orders > On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, ropers wrote: > [citation

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Lazarus Wasbeim writes: > Surely I know something You perhaps don't. Says the guy whose only existence on the net is in this thread. Go away, astroturfer. It's very interesting when one side of the conflict is only supported by throwaway gmail accounts, don't you think? //art

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On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:14:03 +1000 (EST), Damien Miller wrote: >On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, ropers wrote: > >> [citation needed] > >http://bit.ly/3dMFBs > Enough of the pix. Send me a real one! It's not far and I'm just a few km from BK. *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I subscribed to the list. Mai

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On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, ropers wrote: > [citation needed] http://bit.ly/3dMFBs

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2009/4/8 Lazarus Wasbeim : > Surely I know something You perhaps don't. > More importantly I can see where the lies are. > > But on a positive note let's move on. Sorry folks I've gotten You all > excited about it again. Just felt as perhaps maybe just a chance > that this has gotten somebody doubt

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2009/4/8 Lazarus Wasbeim : > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Artur Grabowski wrote: > >> Lazarus Wasbeim writes: >> >> > L'haim. >> > >> > It's quite amazing how low these who calls themselves developers can go >> at >> > pouring dirt all over somebody they were shaking hands with just moments >>

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On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Lazarus Wasbeim wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Denis Doroshenko > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Lazarus Wasbeim >> wrote: >> > L'haim. >> > >> > It's quite amazing how low these who calls themselves developers can go >> > at >> > pouring d

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On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Lazarus Wasbeim wrote: > > What has been posted from the acqusing part is full of lies. > It's a pity you can not read it. > Tiny little lies are used to makemuch bigger half-truth > look more plausible. Add to that a horde of screaming > masses and what do you get

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On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 06:24:26PM +0200, Lazarus Wasbeim wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Denis Doroshenko > "Well, you thought Cusamano was your friend. -- You live, you learn." > > The Sopranos. > > > > I would prefer a quote from Britney Spears please. Thank You very much. If you loa

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On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Denis Doroshenko wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Lazarus Wasbeim > wrote: > > L'haim. > > > > It's quite amazing how low these who calls themselves developers can go > at > > pouring dirt all over somebody they were shaking hands with just moments > > ago

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On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Lazarus Wasbeim wrote: > L'haim. > > It's quite amazing how low these who calls themselves developers can go at > pouring dirt all over somebody they were shaking hands with just moments > ago. "Well, you thought Cusamano was your friend. -- You live, you learn." T

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Blah blah blah, who cares On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 04:13:37PM +0200, Lazarus Wasbeim wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Artur Grabowski wrote: > > > Lazarus Wasbeim writes: > > > > > L'haim. > > > > > > It's quite amazing how low these who calls themselves developers can go > > at > > > po

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mount and run gdm without this crap filling it up -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Lazarus Wasbeim Sent: 08 April 2009 15:14 To: Artur Grabowski; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: European orders On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:04 PM,

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On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 04:13:37PM +0200, Lazarus Wasbeim wrote: | Perhaps you are not aware of the true meaning of that metaphore. | It was a custom for romans to slap the jews with their left hand | as to signify them being not worthy "humane" treatment as | being hit with the right arm. Thus the

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On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Artur Grabowski wrote: > Lazarus Wasbeim writes: > > > L'haim. > > > > It's quite amazing how low these who calls themselves developers can go > at > > pouring dirt all over somebody they were shaking hands with just moments > > ago. > [...] > > ... and God bless

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Lazarus Wasbeim writes: > L'haim. > > It's quite amazing how low these who calls themselves developers can go at > pouring dirt all over somebody they were shaking hands with just moments > ago. [...] > ... and God bless my friends. Not everyone believes in turning the other cheek. //art

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L'haim. It's quite amazing how low these who calls themselves developers can go at pouring dirt all over somebody they were shaking hands with just moments ago. Seemingly it is no problem turning backs and calling names as soon as somebody pulls a tiny little string and whispers a tiny little lie

Re: Donations (was, sadly, European orders)

On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Bob Beck wrote: Others are trying to do it too, but they are just more quiet about it. And then there's the other catagory... the breeders... No, you're forgetting the third category - the titanium clipped, whose ungrateful spawn are now 18 and will soon be old en

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2009/4/4, Hannah Schroeter : > But IIRC it can be expensive between the UK and the Euro zone because > the UK doesn't have the Euro. I've understood the rules in the way that > the regulations apply only to transfers between countries that are both > in the EU *and* that have the Euro. I.e. not

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Hi! On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:18:30AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: >On 2009-04-03, Martin Schrvder wrote: >> 2009/4/3, Stuart Henderson : >>> cards, http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html, since UK to euro-zone >>> bank transfers are so expensive (cheapest is probably #8 for tipanet >>> tran

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> Of course I paid for going to these events completely out of my own > pocket, and even though the Netherlands is a small country, most > events are further away from my home than Wim's, while Wim paid for > his travel expenses out of OpenBSD (donation) money. On his web page Wim sort of now clai

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I've not been to many OpenBSD events in Europe, but at most of the ones I attended, I've been behind Wim's booth, selling OpenBSD merchandise to help the project. The thing we sold most were T-shirts, and Wim made everyone believe that by buying T-shirts they would financially support the project.

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On 2009-04-03, Martin Schrvder wrote: > 2009/4/3, Stuart Henderson : >> cards, http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html, since UK to euro-zone >> bank transfers are so expensive (cheapest is probably #8 for tipanet >> transfers, other ways can be much more). > > The UK is in pe, so -transfers to a

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2009/4/3, Stuart Henderson : > cards, http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html, since UK to euro-zone > bank transfers are so expensive (cheapest is probably #8 for tipanet > transfers, other ways can be much more). The UK is in pe, so -transfers to and from the UK should cost (next to) nothing; a

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On 2009-04-03, Lars Noodin wrote: > Theo de Raadt wrote: >> When you buy a CD from the Computer shop, 100% ends up in the Computer >> Shop accounts. > > Which is an option likely to make most everyone all around happy, but > maybe not so practical for outside of North America. > > Setting up a bra

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Theo de Raadt wrote: > When you buy a CD from the Computer shop, 100% ends up in the Computer > Shop accounts. Which is an option likely to make most everyone all around happy, but maybe not so practical for outside of North America. Setting up a branch inside the Euro zone might be worth conside

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> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Theo de Raadt > wrote: > > I don't know how big people think the donations are, but sure, it is > > substantial. Yet it is not as much as these amounts above. The > > remaining is paid out of my salary, and yes, my salary is CD sales > > dependent. And yes, ev

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think if you look through the 140 or so posts of this thread (i.e., the "European orders" thread) you'll find your answer, rather than asking Theo to divulge even more private info. > > > > -- > http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > I don't know how big people think the donations are, but sure, it is > substantial. Yet it is not as much as these amounts above. The > remaining is paid out of my salary, and yes, my salary is CD sales > dependent. And yes, everyone inclu

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"Work hard, play harder. Oh what, just because you are you, you dont get to have a life? Fuck that. No need to justify anything in that regard." +1, as others have done already. I regret not having been able to donate the last 18 months or so, maybe longer. But it's only because of my personal f

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> Others are trying to do it too, but they are just more quiet about it. > > And then there's the other catagory... the breeders... > No, you're forgetting the third category - the titanium clipped, whose ungrateful spawn are now 18 and will soon be old enough to be capable of leaving th

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Does anybody here remember the sound and fury quite a few years back when Theo (or someone) posted a picture of his new bike shortly after a release -- I can't seem to find it in the archives. Anyhow, it's not all that important. The point is that suckers like me -- I've made a couple of paltry don

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On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:16:31 -0700 "J.C. Roberts" wrote: > On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:11:07 -0600 Theo de Raadt > wrote: > > > I work hard. > > I know you do! -- I look at your work every day. I use said work every day. The results I see and the work being put into this project is more than enough

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On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:11:07 -0600 Theo de Raadt wrote: > I work hard. I know you do! -- I look at your work every day. As promised, I won't comment publicly on the situation but I hope you won't be offended if a no-code nobody like me gives you a reminder; You have absolutely no reason to let

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> Having some sort of Report once a year about Donation Money or even also the > CD and Shirt Sales money and where it goes would help to shut up even the > most ignorant. Reports possibly ala' FreeBSD Foundation; but if not, not; i > personally have no doubt that you are the last Guy how would enr

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> Others are trying to do it too, but they are just more quiet about it. > > And then there's the other catagory... the breeders... I swear it was by accident!!

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The product (OpenBSD) speeks for itself. +1 -- Thanks, Jordi Espasa Clofent

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+ 1 here Not only the product speaks for itself, but the fact that you develop it so openly and allow free downloads. Thanks Alf, that is what I tried to say in my long-winded message a couple of days ago. - William J. Chivers Lecturer in Informatio

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On 02.04-09:49, Alf Schlichting wrote: [ ... ] > as far as i am concerned (and most likely the majority of OpenBSD > users) there is no need for you to justify yourself (or any other > developer) in public. > The product (OpenBSD) speeks for itself. +1

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Theo, as far as i am concerned (and most likely the majority of OpenBSD users) there is no need for you to justify yourself (or any other developer) in public. The product (OpenBSD) speeks for itself. Alf P.S.: To me the sentence about hiking on Wim's page looks like a silly rethoric trick that

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Work hard, play harder. Oh what, just because you are you, you dont get to have a life? Fuck that. No need to justify anything in that regard. Hopefull even after all this you and other Devs still have all the motivation it takes to keep making the OpenBSD Project better and better; Having some s

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> So what if it's founder lives a mountain biking/hiking lifestyle? There are people being misled that I pay for this extravagant lifestyle out of donations. Hah. Shame on those people who spread that rumour, and also shame on those who are so easily deceived. I hike near conferences that I am

Donations (was, sadly, European orders)

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:39 PM, new_guy wrote: > I'm in the US and I've bought > CDs, t-shirts and made a few donations. > OpenBSD is the *only* project I have ever given my hard-earned money to > although I use other operating systems... I have a similar story. The sheer simplicity and foretho

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On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:32:42PM +0200, Daniel Seuffert wrote: > Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >>> that's up to you. And just in >>> case you are not clever enough to realize yourself: I'm not >>> a fanboy of OpenBSD, Mr. de Raadt, Mr. Vandeputte or anybody >>> else. I am Daniel Seuffert asking two ques

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7;s just like the OS they continually improve... what you see is what you get. They don't pull punches, pretend or try to make things into something they are not. They are open and honest and at times that offends folks, but it's the right thing to do. Just a 'user' in the US. -- Vie

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2009/4/2 Daniel Seuffert : >> Why are you on this list? > > Because Mr. de Raadt accuses Mr. Vandeputte in public for having done some > bad things without any evidence yet. Did you not think that this is an event in progress? It appears that neither side has finalized this matter. So involveme

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Congrats to those who created this latest public awareness effort. Along with the humor and drama I have again been challenged to find more cd orders. (Maybe I could stand beside the girl guides at the local walmart and hold up cd's). Suggestion for next event: Some kind of survival competition be

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:20 AM, ropers wrote: [SNIP] > And no offence to you or anyone, but why don't we all just STFU unless > we happen to be able to announce substantial new information? IJWTS that this is like the 20th variation on 'we should all be quiet now' that I've seen posted here.

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On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:44:16PM +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote: > 2009/4/1, Stefan Sperling : > > Well, I guess you could figure out Theo's email address in no time. > > The question is rather whether it's worth wasting your time writing > > to him about this. > > No, the question is if its wor

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On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Artur Grabowski wrote: And I am Dr. Mbeke Bulabula with a strictly confidential urgent none of your business proposal. //art Please, Please, Please contact me at your earliest convenience. I'd like to take part in the none of my business proposal. diana

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On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, frantisek holop wrote: SNIP sigh. as if openbsd's image wasn't tarnished enough. just what we needed to make our advocacy job easier, thanks everyone. Give me a break. Tarnished, yeah sure, that's why it gets used in a lot of commercial establishments. diana

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On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:44:16PM +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote: > 2009/4/1, Stefan Sperling : > > Well, I guess you could figure out Theo's email address in no time. > > The question is rather whether it's worth wasting your time writing > > to him about this. > > No, the question is if its wor

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On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Daniel Seuffert wrote: > WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE Mr. Grabowski? > Evidence is immaterial - this is not any Court; the decision has been made and that's OK with us (if you don't like it, go cry in your beer). Can we ALL just shut and code, or just shut up? My delete key is gettin

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Daniel Seuffert writes: > Because Mr. de Raadt accuses Mr. Vandeputte in public for having done > some bad things without any evidence yet. No, he doesn't. > Accusing him like that in public is something completely > different. Where? > I have asked two > questions: > > 1. Where is the eviden

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Daniel Seuffert wrote: > Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > >> that's up to you. And just in >>> case you are not clever enough to realize yourself: I'm not >>> a fanboy of OpenBSD, Mr. de Raadt, Mr. Vandeputte or anybody >>> else. I am Daniel Seuffert asking two questions. >

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2009/4/1, Stefan Sperling : > Well, I guess you could figure out Theo's email address in no time. > The question is rather whether it's worth wasting your time writing > to him about this. No, the question is if its worth wasting Theo's time reading your mail. I trust Theo to be responsible and

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Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: that's up to you. And just in case you are not clever enough to realize yourself: I'm not a fanboy of OpenBSD, Mr. de Raadt, Mr. Vandeputte or anybody else. I am Daniel Seuffert asking two questions. Daniel, if I may be off topic for a moment, if you are not a Fan of Open

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On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 02:36:55PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: > if wim says, yes, he sent the money i paid for the > cd's to theo, and theo says no he didnt get anything, > whom should i believe? That's up to you. And there's third option, since you don't necessarily have to believe anything an

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On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:50:57AM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: > this is a bit besides the issue, methinks. There are several issues > being discussed, and alluded to, here: > > 1. Theo not wanting to do business with Wim anymore. That's between Theo and Wim. > 2. The reasons(s) given why The

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hmm, on Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:37:16PM +0200, Artur Grabowski said that > It's his choice and none of your business. > It's his reasons and none of your business. > It's his choice and none of your business. > It's his choice and none of your business. how is it none of our business if the 2 si

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2009/4/1 Toni Mueller : > > I'd like to note that I don't want to "take sides", but I am very > interested in getting some sanity back into this discussion. That's your problem right there. Sane people aren't even interested in having a public discussion about this on misc. You mentioned Fox News

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* Artur Grabowski [2009-04-01 12:53]: > Daniel Seuffert writes: > > > I am Daniel Seuffert asking two questions. > > And I am Dr. Mbeke Bulabula oh, you're a relative of the King! -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure H

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Daniel Seuffert wrote: ... > I don't care what you do for a living. If it's not enough get a job and > work like anybody else. Rumor is, he'll be in the cube next to yours starting Monday... Nick. (doing his part to drum up donations to keep this from coming true)

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Daniel Seuffert writes: > I am Daniel Seuffert asking two questions. And I am Dr. Mbeke Bulabula with a strictly confidential urgent none of your business proposal. //art

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Toni Mueller writes: > 1. Theo not wanting to do business with Wim anymore. It's his choice and none of your business. > 2. The reasons(s) given why Theo does not want to do business with > Wim anymore. It's his reasons and none of your business. > 3. Theo's handling of the case. It's

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> that's up to you. And just in > case you are not clever enough to realize yourself: I'm not > a fanboy of OpenBSD, Mr. de Raadt, Mr. Vandeputte or anybody > else. I am Daniel Seuffert asking two questions. Daniel, if I may be off topic for a moment, if you are not a Fan of OpenBSD Why are you on

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Artur Grabowski wrote: Daniel Seuffert writes: WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE Mr. Grabowski? Evidence of what? Of you being butthurt by some perceived injustice? It's right there in your mail. Evidence from Mr. de Raadt for his accusations. You and a lot of people here try hard to be off-topic. Y

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ropers wrote: > Read up on IBAN/BIC payments and/or on SEPA payments. >... Been there, done that. At the bank(s) I have right now, things go well -- for now. I've seen all kinds of crap in the past so I'm not sure how many more years must pass before I consider such transactions reliable, though

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Daniel Seuffert writes: > WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE Mr. Grabowski? Evidence of what? Of you being butthurt by some perceived injustice? It's right there in your mail. > You can stop speculating who I am btw, I'm Daniel Seuffert. So, basically you're saying that you're a nobody here. Your point is

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Hello, On Wed, 01.04.2009 at 08:58:40 +0200, Artur Grabowski wrote: > Where do they come from? Suddenly there's this astroturfing campaign > about... what? forcing Theo to do business with someone he has no > intention of doing business with anymore? this is a bit besides the issue, methinks. Th

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WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE Mr. Grabowski? You can stop speculating who I am btw, I'm Daniel Seuffert. Where do they come from? Suddenly there's this astroturfing campaign about... what? forcing Theo to do business with someone he has no intention of doing business with anymore? If you're really so

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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 05:00:34PM +0200, Alexander Bochmann wrote: > > Absolutely. From my point of view, Wim's constant presence > and marketing activity was an important factor in the past > success of the project, and he is to be commended for that. > Correct me if I've misunderstood previ

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Where do they come from? Suddenly there's this astroturfing campaign about... what? forcing Theo to do business with someone he has no intention of doing business with anymore? If you're really so butthurt, sue for defamation. Those fanboy mails from total nobodies are just retarded. //art Danie

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Michael Grigoni wrote: > A modular approach to an O/S would be welcome; say a major version every five > years, with an a la carte menu of features, which are subject to versioning > much like there is a 'version 3 MS-Windows', with known performance > characteristics > and r

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On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Daniel Seuffert wrote: > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Mr. de Raadt, > > you are the guy that has accused Mr. Vandeputte in public. You are the guy > that failed to put > any evicence on the public table. Stop whining, show your evidence like Mr. > Vandeputte has > and is apparen

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2009/4/1 Daniel Seuffert : > Mr. de Raadt, > > I don't care what you do for a living. If it's not enough get a job and > work like anybody else. > > Daniel Seuffert Theo works hard and from the goodness of his heart we all benefit from it. But you have a problem with him expecting to receive pa

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frantisek, technically, yes he is. north american :} Now everyone's insulted. :-D -- Aaron W. Hsu | "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat +++ ((lambda (x)

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hmm, on Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 07:48:54PM -0400, Ted Unangst said that > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Richard Ben Aleya > wrote: > > We do not want to purchase CDs to pay the salary of an American guy who > > Bitch, please. Now I'm insulted. You think Theo's an American? Fuck you. technical

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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Richard Ben Aleya < richard.benal...@gmail.com> wrote: > We do not want to purchase CDs to pay the salary of an American guy who > does not respect European citizens. Now we know the man you are. I think officially he's Canadian now,... origionally South African.

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