Re: Apparently my fridge runs OpenBSD, but under what license?

2025-07-11 Thread Stephen Wiley
I used to work for a large publicly traded company on an embedded firmware team and all the way down to (I think even my direct manager) we were strictly told we were never allowed to use GPL software for anything. It's unfortunate, we were actually paying consultants quite a lot of money to conti

Poor responsiveness with disk I/O

2025-07-11 Thread H. Hartzer
Hi misc@, 7.7 has usually been pretty responsive for me, but I've had a few issues here and there. Right now, my laptop with a decent SSD is very laggy running aria2c on a large file (19GB.) aria2c is a downloader, like curl or ftp, but good for cases where needing to resume a download is there.

Re: Apparently my fridge runs OpenBSD, but under what license?

2025-07-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hello, emu...@disroot.org wrote on Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 04:22:15AM +0800: > full document. This is the relevant paragraph, on the first page: This product includes software components that are licensed by the copyright holders as free software or open source software. The appropriate lice

Re: Apparently my fridge runs OpenBSD, but under what license?

2025-07-11 Thread Jan Stary
My guess would be that some legal division at Bosch demanded that there be such a list of licenses, just to cover Bosch's proverbial ass, not that the list really means anything. On Jul 12 04:22:15, emu...@disroot.org wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 17:39:27 +0200 > Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > > Hello

Re: Apparently my fridge runs OpenBSD, but under what license?

2025-07-11 Thread Stuff Received
On 2025-07-11 16:22, emu...@disroot.org wrote (in part): Since there is no mention of GPL in the document, it would appear that Bosch deliberately avoided components with GPL licensing. Likely, as they seem to prefer MIT licences. Bosch has a webpage on their OSS (https://opensource.bosch.com

Re: Apparently my fridge runs OpenBSD, but under what license?

2025-07-11 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
Don't assume people know what they are doing. That text could very well have been inserted by a copy editor who was just following a check list, and was clueless as to the actual meaning of the text. --lyndon

Re: Apparently my fridge runs OpenBSD, but under what license?

2025-07-11 Thread emu...@disroot.org
On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 17:39:27 +0200 Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hello, > > emu...@disroot.org wrote on Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 08:31:34PM +0800: > > > I finally got around to filing away the document pack that came > > with a new Bosch refrigerator. Apparently it has a feature called > > "Home Connect"

Re: NAS on OpenBSD?

2025-07-11 Thread Crystal Kolipe
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 09:55:23AM -0700, Kevin Williams wrote: > I certainly want to detect a failing drive for my source data and replace it > before corrupted data is backed up from it. No matter what techniques you use, this is more difficult than it might seem. Copying data from one place to

Re: cvs

2025-07-11 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
For simple(ish) projects that don't need constant branching and that are restricted to a single machine, I still use CVS. But that may be because I've been using CVS since it first came out, so I have muscle memory. Hell, to this day I still use rcs to record the history of assorted config files

Re: NAS on OpenBSD?

2025-07-11 Thread Kevin Williams
On 7/9/25 15:41, Kirill A. Korinsky wrote: On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 23:28:03 +0200, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2025-07-09, Kirill A Korinsky wrote: On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 22:54:50 +0200, Stuart Henderson wrote: - restore (and archive browsing) on OpenBSD is more annoying than it could be if we had a

Re: Apparently my fridge runs OpenBSD, but under what license?

2025-07-11 Thread Lloyd
There's only one way to know for sure. You're going to have to take apart your fridge and report back. emu...@disroot.org wrote: > Perhaps someone on the list in Germany has contacts with Bosch and could > clarify matters with them? >

Re: cvs

2025-07-11 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 5:09 PM Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > I once did a thought experiment of why Fossil-SCM is not more popular. > > If the tool lets you self-host easily, why would anything like a > GitHub spring up to solve the issue that's already been solved? > Long-time, greying-hair

Re: Apparently my fridge runs OpenBSD, but under what license?

2025-07-11 Thread Stephen Wiley
I would bet they're running Bind for something, maybe as a local resolver to send .local queries to an MDNS resolver. --Stephen On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 08:31:34PM +0800, emu...@disroot.org wrote: > I finally got around to filing away the document pack that came with a > new Bosch refrigerator. Ap

Re: Apparently my fridge runs OpenBSD, but under what license?

2025-07-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hello, emu...@disroot.org wrote on Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 08:31:34PM +0800: > I finally got around to filing away the document pack that came with a > new Bosch refrigerator. Apparently it has a feature called "Home > Connect" which enables it to connect to a mobile phone app via some > murky cloud

Re: The Book of PF, 4th edition is now available for preorder

2025-07-11 Thread Peter Nicolai Mathias Hansteen
A followup with at least partial answers to some questions posted here: https://nxdomain.no/~peter/yes_the_book_of_pf_4th_ed_is_coming.html Enjoy! - Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.

Re: cvs

2025-07-11 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 at 09:03, Andy Bradford wrote: > > Thus said Gustavo Rios on Thu, 10 Jul 2025 20:49:38 -0300: > > > Would you start a project today using cvs ? > > While I think it may still have some relevance, I probably would not use > it for a new project. My DVCS of choice these days is F

Re: cvs

2025-07-11 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Gustavo Rios on Thu, 10 Jul 2025 20:49:38 -0300: > Would you start a project today using cvs ? While I think it may still have some relevance, I probably would not use it for a new project. My DVCS of choice these days is Fossil. Andy