Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-13 Thread Maurice Janssen
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 09:15:17PM -0700, Marco S Hyman wrote: >This is probably something stupid I'm doing, but I can't see it right this >second. >Trying to build xenocara from sources pulled from >anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs >as of about 60 minutes before sending this email message g

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Francois Pussault
I'm not using for scientific work but for all daily, as servers but also as workstation, graphical station & sometimes only for scientific work like calculations of astronomical trajectories...that's all. > > From: Zé Loff > Sent: Tue May 14 08:38:43 CES

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Zé Loff
On 13/05/2013, at 22:12, Pau wrote: > on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work? > please contact me off list. Thanks Doing statistical consulting for the pharma industry using 99% OpenBSD. Basic toolkit is LaTeX+R, both edited with vim, and LibreOffice. Plus a lot of

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Pau wrote: > on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work? > please contact me off list. Thanks > > I'm not sure if there will be some official readings available (you can try BSDmag and similar resources), but it's completely possible and

Re: Is fdisk, disklabel and newfs enough to "reset" an SSD

2013-05-13 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Clint Pachl wrote: > > Would dd'ing to the drive all 1s then all 0s be effective? > Yes, and a complete waste of time. 'atactl drive secerase' will do the job for you. hdparm in linux has a similar command. But dd-ing twice is just idiotic. If you must use dd, o

Re: Is fdisk, disklabel and newfs enough to "reset" an SSD

2013-05-13 Thread Clint Pachl
Scott McEachern wrote: 2) Do you mean there could still be data residing on unused parts of the SSD? Yes, it can happen. Yes, this is what I'm referring to. I was hoping there was some way to instruct the drive controller that the entire drive space is "free"? SSDs have their own way of wear-

Re: Is fdisk, disklabel and newfs enough to "reset" an SSD

2013-05-13 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 21:04, Clint Pachl wrote: > I would like to reinstall a fresh system on an SSD that contains an > existing installation. From my limited knowledge of SSDs, I wonder if > the drive controller may "retain" data from the old filesystem, unaware > that there is a new filesystem

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-13 Thread Marco S Hyman
On May 13, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Scott McEachern wrote: >> >> *** Error 1 in lib/freetype (:37 'type1.o': @cc -O2 -pipe >> -I/usr/xenocara/lib/freetype/include -I/usr/xenocara/lib/freetype/...) >> *** Error 1 in lib/freetype (Makefile:36 'build') >> *** Error 1 in lib (:48 'build') >> *** Error

Re: xenocara build failure

2013-05-13 Thread Scott McEachern
On 05/14/13 00:15, Marco S Hyman wrote: This is probably something stupid I'm doing, but I can't see it right this second. Trying to build xenocara from sources pulled from anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs as of about 60 minutes before sending this email message gives me cc -O2 -pipe

Re: Is fdisk, disklabel and newfs enough to "reset" an SSD

2013-05-13 Thread Scott McEachern
On 05/14/13 00:04, Clint Pachl wrote: I would like to reinstall a fresh system on an SSD that contains an existing installation. From my limited knowledge of SSDs, I wonder if the drive controller may "retain" data from the old filesystem, unaware that there is a new filesystem put in place.

xenocara build failure

2013-05-13 Thread Marco S Hyman
This is probably something stupid I'm doing, but I can't see it right this second. Trying to build xenocara from sources pulled from anon...@anoncvs3.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs as of about 60 minutes before sending this email message gives me cc -O2 -pipe -I/usr/xenocara/lib/freetype/include -I/u

Is fdisk, disklabel and newfs enough to "reset" an SSD

2013-05-13 Thread Clint Pachl
I would like to reinstall a fresh system on an SSD that contains an existing installation. From my limited knowledge of SSDs, I wonder if the drive controller may "retain" data from the old filesystem, unaware that there is a new filesystem put in place. Is this a concern? If so, how does one

Re: Re : Tux cups

2013-05-13 Thread Brett Lymn
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:58:08AM +0100, James Griffin wrote: > > I just use the base vi(1) > and then fmt(1) to format the text. Same for mail(1) if use the command > to write in an external editor. > Why not: set editor="EXINIT=':set wrapmargin=8' vi %s" in the muttrc? No need for fmt. --

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Alexander Hall
Flame bait. Not even funny. Salim Shaw wrote: >OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for >desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec, >IPv6. >Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of square > >peg/round hole. > > > >On

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Reiner Jung
You are wrong with your statement that OpenBSD is not designed for the desktop. We are running several hundred desktop on the enterprise, thin clients and so on ... On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 17:28 -0400, Salim Shaw wrote: > OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for > deskto

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Scott McEachern
On 05/13/13 17:28, Salim Shaw wrote: OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec, IPv6. Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of square peg/round hole. You're quite a comedi

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread W. Steven Schneider
On May 13, 2013 4:33 PM, "Chris Cappuccio" wrote: > > Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote: > > OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for > > desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, > > IPsec, IPv6. > > Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop

Re: remote management

2013-05-13 Thread Tony Berth
thanks for the prompt replies. Any recommendation for IPMI cards and KVM over IP switches that work well with openbsd? Tony On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Nick Holland wrote: > On 05/13/2013 03:24 PM, Tony Berth wrote: > >> Dear Group, >> >> I would like to know what kind of environment you

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
2013/5/13 Chris Cappuccio > Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote: > > OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for > > desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, > > IPsec, IPv6. > > Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of >

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote: > OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for > desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, > IPsec, IPv6. > Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of > square peg/round hole. > Salim, tha

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Salim Shaw
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec, IPv6. Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of square peg/round hole. On 05/13/2013 05:12 PM, Pau wrote: on his/her laptop as *on

Re: remote management

2013-05-13 Thread Nick Holland
On 05/13/2013 03:24 PM, Tony Berth wrote: Dear Group, I would like to know what kind of environment you use for remote management of one or more openbsd servers. Which KVM over IP solution would you recomend. Oh, I remember those. Last IP KVM switch I used worked BETTER for OpenBSD than it di

Re: who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Pau
PS: scientific: physics, math, bio, etc...

who is using obsd

2013-05-13 Thread Pau
on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work? please contact me off list. Thanks

remote management

2013-05-13 Thread Tony Berth
Dear Group, I would like to know what kind of environment you use for remote management of one or more openbsd servers. Which KVM over IP solution would you recomend. Thanks Tony

Re: Claws-mail frequently dumps core on 5.3R

2013-05-13 Thread Erwin Geerdink
On Fri, 10 May 2013 14:42:48 -0700 Philip Guenther wrote: > > The quality of the error checking demonstrated by this crash, btw, > should have you filing bugs with the claws-mail developers. "Bad > input files" is not a valid reason to crash; it should be reporting > what file is involved and t

Re: dhclient exiting on lease expiry

2013-05-13 Thread Mike Williams
On 05/13/13 15:19, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 09:40:59AM +0100, Mike Williams wrote: Hi, I have been upgrading my machines to 5.3 this weekend and I am seeing some strange behaviours with dhclient. The config is simple: /etc/dhclient.conf send host-name "pc-1"; reques

Re: dhclient exiting on lease expiry

2013-05-13 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 09:40:59AM +0100, Mike Williams wrote: > Hi, > > I have been upgrading my machines to 5.3 this weekend and I am > seeing some strange behaviours with dhclient. The config is simple: > > /etc/dhclient.conf > send host-name "pc-1"; > request subnet-mask, broadcast-address,

Re: NPPPD with intermediate LTS

2013-05-13 Thread Joe Holden
YASUOKA Masahiko wrote: On Wed, 08 May 2013 12:32:16 +0100 Joe Holden wrote: YASUOKA Masahiko wrote: On Tue, 07 May 2013 22:38:46 +0100 Joe Holden wrote: I'm testing out npppd as a termination device which is being fed from existing LACs (in this particular setup, mpd on FreeBSD) - if the LA

Re: USB temperature sensors

2013-05-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-05-10, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Stuart Henderson wrote: > >> TemperNTC (http://www.pcsensor.com/index.php?_a=product&product_id=7) >> uses uthum(4) but has a problem where the sensor drops out occasionally; >> diff I posted to tech@ improves (but doesn't totally fix) this. >> This se

Re: Re : Tux cups

2013-05-13 Thread James Griffin
Sun 12.May'13 at 15:41:11 -0600, Evan Root > So Stuart, > I was looking at the OpenBSD mailing list rules because I > wasn't sure about long links and I saw that lines over 72 > characters are discouraged, that's were I decided to manually > put in line breaks. :/

dhclient exiting on lease expiry

2013-05-13 Thread Mike Williams
Hi, I have been upgrading my machines to 5.3 this weekend and I am seeing some strange behaviours with dhclient. The config is simple: /etc/dhclient.conf send host-name "pc-1"; request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, routers, domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name; (FWIW The dhc