Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-09-06 Thread Ian Romanick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2011 02:17 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 07:38 -0700, Kenneth Graunke wrote: >> On 08/25/2011 07:03 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: >>> That's a fair point. Since we have a clean mechanism to improve those >>> interfaces (e.g., DRI2

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-09-06 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 07:38 -0700, Kenneth Graunke wrote: > On 08/25/2011 07:03 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: > > That's a fair point. Since we have a clean mechanism to improve those > > interfaces (e.g., DRI2!), there's relatively little cost in keeping that > > code around. > > > > I'd usually be pr

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-26 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/24/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: >> I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained >> drivers.  I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core >> M

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-26 Thread Marek Olšák
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: > I've put up an initial branch at > >        git://people.freedesktop.org:~idr/mesa kill-old-drivers Acked-by: Marek Olšák ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freed

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-26 Thread Dave Airlie
> > [*] keeping up with DRM in linux is hard work.  you guys are > very active. Its all the hw manufactures fault really, they make GPUs too complex and release them too quick :-) Dave. ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org http://lis

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-26 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 08/26/11 01:52, matthew green wrote: > [*] keeping up with DRM in linux is hard work. you guys are > very active. Absolutely agreed there, but the only working DRM module we ship at the moment is a KMS/DRI2 version of i915, so I have no objections to losing the Mesa support for the DRI1 module

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-26 Thread Alex Deucher
2011/8/26 Kristian Høgsberg : > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:52 AM, matthew green wrote: >> >> hi folks, >> >>>  - Remove all DRI1 drivers: i810, mach64, mga, r128, savage, sis, tdfx, >>> and unichrome. >> >> over in netbsd land we're still lagging on DRI2 support[*].  of >> the above cards, i've har

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-26 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:52 AM, matthew green wrote: > > hi folks, > >>  - Remove all DRI1 drivers: i810, mach64, mga, r128, savage, sis, tdfx, >> and unichrome. > > over in netbsd land we're still lagging on DRI2 support[*].  of > the above cards, i've hard successful reports on mach64, mga, > r

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-26 Thread matthew green
hi folks, > - Remove all DRI1 drivers: i810, mach64, mga, r128, savage, sis, tdfx, > and unichrome. over in netbsd land we're still lagging on DRI2 support[*]. of the above cards, i've hard successful reports on mach64, mga, r128 and tdfx in the last couple of years, though the only cards i kn

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-25 Thread Ian Romanick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/25/2011 07:38 AM, Kenneth Graunke wrote: > On 08/25/2011 07:03 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: >> On 08/24/2011 05:07 PM, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-25 Thread Kenneth Graunke
On 08/25/2011 07:38 AM, Kenneth Graunke wrote: > Forgive my ignorance, but...doesn't changing dd_function_table break the > old libGL/new DRI driver API/ABI? Or, is that different? Nevermind, wrong interface. ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.fre

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-25 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Kenneth Graunke wrote: > On 08/25/2011 07:03 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: >> On 08/24/2011 05:07 PM, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/2011 12:11

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-25 Thread Kenneth Graunke
On 08/25/2011 07:03 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: > On 08/24/2011 05:07 PM, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 08/24/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: I'd like to propose giving the ax to

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-25 Thread Ian Romanick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/2011 05:07 PM, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 08/24/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: >>> I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bu

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-25 Thread Keith Whitwell
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 20:46 -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained > > drivers. I've been doing a bunch of refactoring an

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-25 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Don, 2011-08-25 at 02:07 +0200, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 08/24/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: > >> I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained > >>

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Kristian Høgsberg
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained > drivers.  I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core > Mesa code, and these drivers have been causing me

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Jakob Bornecrantz
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Ian Romanick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/24/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: >> I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained >> drivers.  I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core >> M

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Ian Romanick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: > I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained > drivers. I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core > Mesa code, and these drivers have been causing me problems for a

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Eugeni Dodonov
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 19:41, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 03:34:44PM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote: > > > > I'll also point out that DRI2 isn't the only problem. There are a lot > > of refactors and optimizations that I'd like to do that will benefit > > more modern cards. Howev

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 03:34:44PM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote: > > I'll also point out that DRI2 isn't the only problem. There are a lot > of refactors and optimizations that I'd like to do that will benefit > more modern cards. However, due to missing (hardware) features and lack > of a maintain

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Corbin Simpson
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 03:28:14PM -0700, Corbin Simpson wrote: >> Ian's list of DRI1 drivers: i810, mach64, mga, r128, savage, sis, >> tdfx, and unichrome. I have mga, r128, savage, sis, tdfx hardware, but >> not the time to maintain it, let

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 03:28:14PM -0700, Corbin Simpson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:50:25PM -0700, Corbin Simpson wrote: > >> +1. If anybody needs them, they're in git. > >> > >> Sending from a mobile, pardon my terseness. ~ C. > >

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Ian Romanick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/2011 03:28 PM, Corbin Simpson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:50:25PM -0700, Corbin Simpson wrote: >>> +1. If anybody needs them, they're in git. >>> >>> Sending from a mobile, pard

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:14:21AM +0200, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:50:25PM -0700, Corbin Simpson wrote: > > +1. If anybody needs them, they're in git. > > > > Sending from a mobile, pardon my terseness. ~ C. > > *sigh* Software populism... > > But seriously. How would su

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Corbin Simpson
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:50:25PM -0700, Corbin Simpson wrote: >> +1. If anybody needs them, they're in git. >> >> Sending from a mobile, pardon my terseness. ~ C. > > *sigh* Software populism... > > But seriously. How would such a thing wor

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Jose Fonseca
- Original Message - > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained > drivers. I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of > core > Mesa code, and these drivers have been causing me problems for a > num

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:50:25PM -0700, Corbin Simpson wrote: > +1. If anybody needs them, they're in git. > > Sending from a mobile, pardon my terseness. ~ C. *sigh* Software populism... But seriously. How would such a thing work? Drivers will be thrown out because none of those currently ch

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Dee Sharpe
On 8/24/2011 2:47 PM, Alex Deucher wrote: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Dee Sharpe wrote: On 8/24/2011 2:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained drivers. I've been doing a bunch of refactor

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:11:32PM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained > drivers. I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core > Mesa code, and these drivers have been ca

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Patrick Baggett
My Voodoo3 3500 AGP just wept. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Eric Anholt wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:11:32 -0700, Ian Romanick > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained > > drivers. I've been

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Eric Anholt
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:11:32 -0700, Ian Romanick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained > drivers. I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core > Mesa code, and these drivers have been causing

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Gonsolo
> I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained drivers. Die, Hoke Colburn, Die! :) (Sorry for that.) -- g ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Corbin Simpson
+1. If anybody needs them, they're in git. Sending from a mobile, pardon my terseness. ~ C. ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Brian Paul
On 08/24/2011 01:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained drivers. I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core Mesa code, and these drivers have been causing me problems for a numb

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Alex Deucher
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Dee Sharpe wrote: > On 8/24/2011 2:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained >> drivers.  I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core >>

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Dee Sharpe
On 8/24/2011 2:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained drivers. I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core Mesa code, and these drivers have been causing me problems for a number

Re: [Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Alex Deucher
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Ian Romanick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained > drivers.  I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core > Mesa code, and these drivers have been causing me

[Mesa-dev] DEATH to old drivers!

2011-08-24 Thread Ian Romanick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd like to propose giving the ax to a bunch of old, unmaintained drivers. I've been doing a bunch of refactoring and reworking of core Mesa code, and these drivers have been causing me problems for a number of reasons. 1. The hardware is so old that