On 3/26/19 4:12 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Sure, FetchMail can pull email from the ISP and inject it into the local
> server. But what advantage does that gain you? Is said advantage worth
> the complexity?
Apparently lennartwware-infested linux distros no longer re
Hello,
I am the administrator of some mailman lists of the student self-administration
of our university. We happend to have some spam issues on our mailman lists.
These spammers were able to send emails on our lists through mail spoofing
(only faking the From: field in the header is
On 4/5/19 11:59 AM, Valentin Schwarze via Mailman-Users wrote:
Are there any settings that we as administrators of the list could
change to end that behavior? For example, is it possible in any way,
that Mailman only accepts emails that passed a SPF check? Or any other
option to prevent email
On 4/10/19 10:36 AM, Matthew Goebel wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are
> people going to move off of mailman 2?
How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why
do you believe you will need it in the future?
On 4/10/19 12:49 PM, Sean McBride wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 12:38:34 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said:
>
>> How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why
>> do you believe you will need it in the future?
>
> Fixes to security vulner
probably deals with strings a lot, and strings is exactly what they
felt they needed to do differently in python 3... I'm sure there's other
monsters there too.
I suspect the practical answer may be as simple as replacing
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman with
"""
cat - | do
On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 09:25 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> The path forward is to increase the community of MM 3 users which will
> result in more people contributing to the project and faster progress.
What Mailman things need assistance in MM3? I've avoided jumping in because
n from them, then
you'll spend hiding/patching the actual issues from Evil Hackers.
Ask me how I know about Apache's "ServerTokens".
Dima
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> > Again, I'm not saying these are bad ideas, just that I want more
> > information to decide if they are useful enough to add to Mailman 3.
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> We had a customer ask for their lists to have this option. Their lists
> are used
ere's a common
> enough reason for doing this, we (the committers) should think about
> adding such features to Mailman 3 (Mailman 2 is up to Mark, but I
> think he really really wants that in security mods only mode). But I
> don't see the point, since subscribers (moderated o
On 4/23/19 5:02 AM, Kiffin Gish wrote:
Is it possible to configure mailman so that it is not possible for users
to change their email address, e.g. disabling the option and including
the service desk contact information instead?
What will prevent users from unsubscribing with the old address
Hello,
I wanted to free some server disc space, therefore I wanted to delete my
mailman archives. Due to a mistake, I accidently deleted the whole /private and
/public directorys. Now, when I want to access my lists through the online
admin backend, I get an error.
Is there any way to rebuild
I'm now getting an error when I start Mailman:
root@primeo:~# /etc/init.d/mailman start
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 106, in
from Mailman import mm_cfg
File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py", line 54
Okay. That worked. Now I have upgraded Mailman from an early 2x to 2.1.29.
the script alias is not working consistently now across all lists. Some web
page admin links are broken requiring me to manually insert the /cgi-bin/
into the web browser to bring up admin pages. Other links work w.o. the
>
> This is what we were unable to solve in the original thread starting at
> <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2019-March/084241.html>
> for 10 posts and then continuing at
> <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2019-March/084266.html>
> for
d process the message/delivery-status or not. I also question
what Mailman would do with a temporary failure, 4.7.0.
It looks like Yahoo TempFailed the message because they don't like
SendGrid for one reason or another.
I'm also somewhat surprised that SendGrid is returning the enti
intable encoded content in the sub-parts including
sub-part headers.
I have seen the other replies in this thread, so I'm not adding much here.
Trying to recognize this in Mailman would be a major kludge and not
worth the effort.
I would argue against hacking Mailman to recognize this as
though, it has its own DNS resolver
already, I'm sure it won't take long.
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get the job done.
i've looked at ifttt and zapier but wasn't sure. thanks.
I'm not familiar with them. Sorry.
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limit or if there's some other fix.
I'm guessing that this is a Mailman and / or MTA configuration issue.
The fact that the message makes it into Mailman tells me that the MTA
can handle the attachment. I wonder if simply raising the Maximum
length (max_message_size) might allo
On 6/5/19 3:59 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
I wonder if this is *mailman* or your MTA that is complaining...
It might also be a webserver thing trying to react to the pending
moderators request / hold screen (page).
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> > https://launchpad.net/~mailman-administrivia/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
> >
> > Installed with an IO error over a lock file purported to be from one of my
> > lists but otherwise started ok. But sending an email produced an error
> > complaining:
> >
>
on ubuntu's keyserver.
Can you provide some more details on this, please. Was this possibly
due to you not being able to follow the default PPA instructions of
using "add-apt-repository"?
I just update the Mailman PPA to include this text above the area that
details how to add a PPA t
but that claims it's already installed, yet the error occurs. what i
> found you want to install is the package "python-dev".
>
python-dev should only be necessary if you are building Mailman from
source. If you are installing from PPA/apt/rpm/dpkg/etc you should only
need pyt
Installing mailman 2.1.20 on a working postfix-dovecot-mysql mail server.
Trying to use hash for Mailman aliases.
In /etc/postfix/main.cf, I have
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
I ran 'newlist mailman at command line.' This is the aliases fil
us[private/dovecot-lmtp] said: 550 5.1.1
User doesn't exist:
mail...@naturalintelligence.us (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Below is output from postconf -n
# postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
append_dot_myd
er From: (in reply to
> >end of DATA command)
> >
> > The SPF record for gfbv.de is
> >
> > gfbv.de.86400 IN TXT "v=spf1 mx
> > a:epicmail1.newsaktuell.net ~all"
> >
> > I am not sure, whether mailman 2
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It has been brought to my attention again that Mailman supports one
dialect of English, but declares that it the USA variant. What in
Mailman makes the English language (translations?) specific to USA?
In the interest of world perspectives, would
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On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 21:06 +0200, Christian F Buser wrote:
> Hi Jim
>
> I do not know about where the English (US) and English (UK) languages differ
> in Mailman. But in school, half a century ago, I learnt (learned) about the
>
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On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 12:46 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 7/8/19 12:15 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
>
> >
> > Now I'm confused. :-) I know about the differences in UK and US English
> > are in general
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On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 13:32 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 7/8/19 1:00 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> >
> > Just to be clear, I'm not proposing changes to any po strings, rather
> > just the labels. Th
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On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 14:17 -0700, Carl Zwanzig wrote:
> On 7/8/2019 1:51 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > I just keep getting reminded that we specifically support USA English
> > and we offer no other English l
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On Tue, 2019-07-09 at 08:40 -0400, Timothy Jasionowski wrote:
> I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but can we acknowledge that
> this version of Mailman is effectively on life support for a variety
> of reasons, that the limited
etes doesn't have me!
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Mailman is running fine in a postfix/mysql/dovecot environment. I need to
set up email forwarding for root and postmaster. I added these to
/etc/aliases and ran newaliases to no effect. Should I instead be manually
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Greetings
I use Mailman (2.1.26) at Site5.com.
Several of the member addresses are @yahoo.com @aol.com and @outlook.com.
Messages to these address bounce and fail and / or just fail. Messages to
other addresses pass.
The latest notice(s) are summarized below.
Site5 people cannot seem to fix
here is the nomail checked
> no message for outlook and no check by nomail
>
>
>
>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Loren Engrav > <mailto:eng...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> I use Mailman (2.1.26) at Site5.com <http://site
Hi
I tried munge yes yes and wrap yes yes on my Mailman (not at Site5) under
Privacy > Sender
munge? still messages failed to yahoo aol and outlook
wrap? message to outlook passed but yahoo and aol failed
> On Jul 28, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Bill Cole
> wrote:
>
> On 28 Jul
thank you
will be interesting
maybe will help Site5 fix things
supporting your opinion
I tried munge and wrap, as mentioned, and neither fixed
> On Jul 28, 2019, at 2:44 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> On 7/28/19 9:52 AM, Bill Cole wrote:
>> On 28 Jul 2019, at 11:25, Loren Eng
I have had Mailman (current version v 2.1.27) List Serve working perfectly on
my website for several years. On July 5, I made some changes to my DNS
settings to satisfy cPanel's Email Deliverability standards, and since then my
List Serve no longer works. I don't know if that was
and
after the last round the screen is shown below
message saying aol disabled
no message for yahoo but there is the nomail checked
no message for outlook and no check by nomail
> On Jul 28, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Loren Engrav wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
> I use Mailman (2.1.26) at
Thank you everyone for your input. A dear gentleman from cPanel tech support
was able to figure it out for me and it is now working.
Mary
On Jul 29, 2019, at 8:45 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 7/29/19 9:59 AM, Mary Pearson via Mailman-Users wrote:
> I have had Mailman (current version v 2.1
can whitelist on outlook
that seems to have solved outlook problem
yahoo and aol remain
attempts to whitelist there have failed
> On Jul 28, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Loren Engrav via Mailman-Users
> wrote:
>
> thank you
> will be interesting
> maybe will help Site5 fix things
&g
n J. Turnbull
> wrote:
>
> Loren Engrav writes:
>
>> does anyone know of a Mailman host that successfully sends to yahoo
>> and aol addresses?
>
> Many do.
>
> Your problem is very unlikely to have anything to do with Mailman. As
> Mark points out, the sta
ssucks.net.
You can see where my donations come from by visiting my interactive
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thing).
I may have diabetes, but diabetes doesn't have me!
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sometimes I load an invalid address (invalid name but valid domain)
like x...@whidbey.com; whidbey.com is ok but there is no xyz
with Mailman 2.1.26 at site5.com and 2.1.29 at mailmanlists.net
I do not receive a bounce message
is this a Mailman issue, host issue, domain issue? or?
thanks
centurylink and sent again
> On Aug 7, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Barry S. Finkel wrote:
>
> On 8/7/2019 1:20 PM, Loren Engrav via Mailman-Users wrote:
>> sometimes I load an invalid address (invalid name but valid domain)
>> like x...@whidbey.com; whidbey.com is ok but there
mailto:bsfin...@att.net>> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/7/2019 1:20 PM, Loren Engrav via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>> sometimes I load an invalid address (invalid name but valid domain)
>>> like x...@whidbey.com <mailto:x...@whidbey.com>; whidbey.com
>>> &
my donations come from by visiting my interactive
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hi
I “talked” to mailmanlists.net
seems they fixed the problem as I now get bounce messages
thanks
> On Aug 9, 2019, at 1:10 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull
> wrote:
>
> Loren Engrav via Mailman-Users writes:
>
>> sometimes I load an invalid address (invalid name but va
dear mailman team,
I have set up my mailists to strip attachments. Nowdays
most messages are (multipart) in html, which shows as a
downloadable link after the text-part of the message.
when someone clicks it, he gets an answer of text/html, but
in a "source" format: the entire
Thought I would share this problem I ran into and the solution incase anyone
else has it. Running Mailman 2.1.20 on Ubuntu 16 and a recent update to postfix
stopped my lists. In my syslog I was seeing a message similar to:
Oct 24 16:43:59 mailman postfix/smtpd[18686]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
what would be the best (correct) way to represent the mailman
alias addresses in LDAP (i.e., list-admin, list-bounces, list-confirm,
etc.). Would each get its own entry in LDAP or is there a better way? Any
help would be appreciated.
Are your mailing lists mixed in a dedicated (sub)domain name
On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 10:17 -0500, Matthew Pounsett wrote:
> Is there a timeline for that? Mailman 2.x requires python 2.x, which is
> EOL in about 40 days.
I keep saying this a lot... the EOL you are referring to is Python's
declared date that the Python team will no longer maint
On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 16:59 +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote:
>
> Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
> :
> > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 10:17 -0500, Matthew Pounsett wrote:
> > > Is there a timeline for that? Mailman 2.x requires python 2.
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wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 16:59 +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote:
> > Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
> > :
> > >
Hi,
thank you for mailman!
More and more mails contain s/mime signatures. How to deal with that? We do not
want to send out "broken" mails. What is best practice?
Removing the s/mime part seems right, but how to do that? pass_mime_types could
help, but
removing mult
uctible donation to my ride by visiting
https://mideml.diabetessucks.net.
You can see where my donations come from by visiting my interactive
donation map ... https://mideml.diabetessucks.net/map (it's a geeky
thing).
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(I think I asked this a few months back, but I couldn't locate any
emails on it)
What is the Apache rule syntax for rejecting subscription linking that
doesn't come from the same domain/site?
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On Tue, 2020-01-14 at 00:19 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
> On 10 Jan 2020, at 10:52, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
>
> > (I think I asked this a few months back, but I couldn't locate any
> > emails on it)
> >
> > What is the Apache rule syntax for
On 1/29/20 12:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 1/29/20 7:43 AM, dmaziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>
>> apologies if this is a faq and my google-fu's failing to find the
>> answer: can I change send_reminders to e.g. yearly?
>
>
> Mailman's cron/mailpasswds
I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com
I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service. I made a gziped tarball of
the entire account using the usual tool. Staff at TMD brought it over and in
minutes all my files were in place.
But. They do not have Mailman in cPanel. They do
Top posting my reply, hope this is OK. Oddly, my host included a Terminal
window! I have never seen that before. Attached are screen shots of some ls -l
results.
Mark are these normal for a mailman installation?
I think my host does not want to support Mailman. Maybe new accounts aren&#
On Friday, January 31, 2020, 01:45:36 PM EST, Brian Carpenter
wrote:
On 1/31/20 12:03 AM, Tim H via Mailman-Users wrote:
> I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com
> I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service. I made a gziped tarball
> of the entire account
I just now realized my replies were not going to the list. My bad!
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On Friday, January 31, 2020, 12:43:39 PM EST, Mark Sapiro
e should change that to something like this:
From: Jane Doe (jane@domain.tld) via Listname
This would be better for mobile email clients which can't/don't easily
display reply-to or other headers.
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On Thu, 2020-02-27 at 10:23 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 2/27/20 10:05 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > I've been wondering if we should change that to something like this:
> >
> > From: Jane Doe (jane@domain.tld) via Listname
> >
>
>
On Thu, 2020-02-27 at 10:56 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> for Mailman 3, but that seems unduly kludgy. There won't be any change
> in Mailman 2.1 which is only waiting for i18n updates for the final
> 2.1.30 release which will be the last release from the GNU Mailman project.
Who deci
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On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 19:52 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Brian Carpenter writes:
>
> > I have hired a professional PHP developer to begin work on a new
> > admin/forum interface for Mailman 3.
>
> Too bad. I really sympathize with your goals but am unlikely to
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:07 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 2/28/20 6:17 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 19:52 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > > Brian Carpenter writes:
> > >
> > > > I have hired a profession
only thing I have to add is that mailman-users@python.org is not
> going away. Furthermore, I expect that Mark and I, at least, will be
> here for the foreseeable future. That's because not only are existing
> Mailman 2 installations not going away any time soon, there's every
>
On Thu, 2020-02-27 at 14:51 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
> On 27 Feb 2020, at 14:24, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
>
> > Personally, I'd like to see the GNU Mailman project have a formal
> > Mailman 2.3 release that supports Python3, I feel that there would be
>
On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 10:46 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 2/29/20 7:02 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > If
> > a CSF/CSS is identified in Mailman v2.1.30 in May-2020, what will be
> > done to address it?
>
> I'd say it depend on the details of
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On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 17:17 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes:
>
> > Interestingly enough, here's a roadmap on exactly how to do it: :)
>
> Jim, you're not helping.
Stephen, thank you for taking the time to respond. Alt
On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 10:54 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 3/2/20 8:56 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
>
> > Barry's roadmap
> > for Python2 -> Python3 seems to counter the narrative that MM2 is ill-
> > advised to be ported to Python3 (btw, that wa
On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 17:18 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 3/2/20 1:55 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > There are plenty of people who are still happy with pipermail and some
> > of the other search options (Google, htdig, etc) What benefit does a
> > REST
version 2.1.23 <http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html> Debian
Stretch
There are some pages of the administration interface which are using
http:// instead of https://
f.e the admin interface of the Held Messages are not working:
http://mydomain.com/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb/
ed to any list and moderate only "external"
people?
thanks before hand for any advice (either if it
is doable or not!)
giannis
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On Friday, May 1, 2020, 6:18:10 PM GMT+3, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 5/1/20 1:10 AM, karrageorgiou giannis via Mailman-Users wrote:
>
> Is there a way to say:
>
> ** for "leaders" allow from people already registered
> in at least one of the "general&
Try setting up a caching name server on the local machine.
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:02 PM Lars Bjørndal wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> One member of a mailman mailing list on my system receives an error
> message when posting to the list:
>
> You are not allowed to post to this
The biggest difference for me is that Mailman 2 was a swine to install
and get working, but it was eventually possible.
In comparison with that, Mailman 3 has proved completely impossible.
It's not as if I'm trying to install on anything obscure: it's a very
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Thanks Mark
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 11:40 PM Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 7/22/20 12:54 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > Good Day
> >
> > We have a running 2.1.12 installation that was done long ago via an
> > external consultant.
> > It hasn't b
On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 10:15 -0500, Barry S. Finkel wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 11:40 PM Mark Sapiro wrote:
> >
> > > On 7/22/20 12:54 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > > > Good Day
> > > >
> > > > We have a
Thanks everyone, looking at our options at the moment
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:33 PM Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users <
mailman-users@python.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 10:15 -0500, Barry S. Finkel wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 11:40 PM Mark Sapiro wrote:
> &
On 7/27/20 12:22 PM, Kevin Bowen wrote:
Hello,
Hi,
I'm trying to set up the mailman (2.1.9) web UI behind a load balancer
in order to offload the TLS to it (because this is an ancient machine
which doesn't support modern TLS versions, and newer browsers are
complaining about i
Can anyone point me to a document which walks one through diagnostic &
troubleshooting steps to take when mailman no longer distributes messages to
its lists/subscribers please? Thank you!
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Good morning.
Today, when I tried to access Mailman, I obtained the following error:
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Bug in Mailman version
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
traceback and
Hi Folks,
A couple of days ago, over on the MAILOP mailinglist, there was a long
thread titled 'Mailman confirmation email denial of service'. This
detailed some of the problems we've all seen with Mailman subscription
spam. The Mailman team has addressed a lot of these problems
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