[Mailman-Users] Mailman equivalent of Yahoo "Special Announcements"?

2014-09-19 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Hi, I'm about to migrate a Yahoo Groups mailing list to mailman. Yahoo Groups offers four delivery modes: - individual emails - daily digests - no mail - special announcements only and I have list members set to all four of them. The first three I can easily deal with, but I'm not sure how to

[Mailman-Users] Understanding patterns of unsubscribe

2014-12-22 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Hi all, Back in September, I migrated an announcement-only mailing list from Yahoo to mailman, with approximately 1800 email addresses. An unknown number of these were dead. The mailing list I am running sends out one, maybe two, emails a month, at around the same time of the month. It's not a

[Mailman-Users] Yahoo spam detection

2014-12-22 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Some of my Yahoo subscribers are reporting that emails from my mailing list are being flagged as spam. As far as I can tell, I'm not using spammy words, and the emails are plain text not HTML. I have SPF set up. One of the Yahoo subscribers kindly forwarded me the full headers and I can see the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo spam detection

2014-12-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 01:13:35PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > > > Some of my Yahoo subscribers are reporting that emails from my > > mailing list are being flagged as spam. As far as I can tell, I'm > > not using spammy wo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo spam detection

2014-12-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 07:36:54PM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/22/2014 03:18 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > > One of the Yahoo subscribers kindly forwarded me the full headers and I > > can see these which appear relevant: > > > > > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Understanding patterns of unsubscribe

2014-12-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 06:48:44PM -0500, Robert Heller wrote: > Are these mass removals automatic or manual? That is, is the list doing this > or are your subscribers doing it? They seem to be automatic. Unless 80+ people all decide to unsubscribe within one minute of each other :-) > Some n

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 05:45:58PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I do understand that in some business situations (contract negotiations, > attorney/client communication and the like), it is useful and pretty > much demanded that each message contain the full transcript of what went > before, I do

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:22:24AM +1100, Peter Shute wrote: > Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > > > And if html wasn't the default for so many clients. > > > > Don't get me started! To the best of my knowledge, there is > > no unified standard for HTML-ized email. Microsoft has "Rich > > Text", App

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 02:31:08PM +1100, Peter Shute wrote: > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > The default for MS Outlook seems to be HTML rather than Rich Text. > > > > What Outlook, Hotmail etc. call "Rich Text" is in fact HTML, > > not to be confused

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:09:12PM -0700, David Benfell wrote: > The consensus on most technical lists I've seen is very strongly in > favor of bottom posting, Surely not. Bottom-posting is, if anything, worse than top-posting. With top-posting at least you get to see the reply[1] at the top

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 06:48:12AM +1100, Andrew Stuart wrote: > > What’s on your wishlist for the perfect Mailman web interface? > > If you can provide links to show where your ideas are done well that would > help to illustrate your thoughts. > > Any killer features that you’d like to see in

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 08:02:03AM -0700, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > On 4/3/2015 4:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:09:12PM -0700, David Benfell wrote: > >>The consensus on most technical lists I've seen is very strongly in > >>favor of b

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 11:26:34AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 4/3/2015 7:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:09:12PM -0700, David Benfell wrote: > >> with top-posters subject to flaming. But > >> outside that world, I find top-post

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 10:02:32AM +1000, Andrew Stuart wrote: > Sounds like not working with JavaScript is something important to you. > What’s the thinking behind wanting to work without JavaScript? Isn’t > it kinda hard to navigate the modern web without JavaScript? Yes it is, but not as p

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 06:50:55AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 4/6/2015 10:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > It's not just the popup windows. It's not just the sites that hijack the > > right-click menu. It's not just the autoplay videos. It's not even

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 08:31:04AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > > I'm not happy when web sites *demand* that you run their untrusted and > > untrustworthy code in your computer before you can see the con

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 08:40:19PM -0700, JB wrote: > Not kicking anyone's cat here but if the ADA applies to web sites then > NO WEB PAGE EVER should be allowed to utilize that HORRIBLE 'flat' > design strategy. Pages such as the new ESPN page are EXTREMELY > difficult to read and sue for peo

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 02:31:50AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > The only accessibility tool for the web that I'm familiar with is the > ALT attribute for IMG and other non-text elements of HTML. I'm not an expert, but as I understand it, you can get a long way towards good accessibility b

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 09:29:23AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > So, you do want to see the HTML content before it is interpreted by > your computer? :-) As HTML is not executable code, "interpreted" is a misleading word to use. But taking it in the loosest possible way, no, of course not. I h

[Mailman-Users] Bounces being detected as spam/virus sending rate

2015-04-22 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Hi, I run a mailing list of about 1-2 thousand subscribers for announcements only. My ISP has started sending me automated messages claiming that there is a high spam/virus sending rate from my IP address. It took me a long time to get a straight answer from them, but eventually they told me t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces being detected as spam/virus sending rate

2015-05-09 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 08:23:38PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 04/22/2015 07:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > > > > I receive unhandled bounce notifications (no more than a handful of > > those, which I then manually remove) and see notifications of add

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO speciific RegExp to filter/discard bot subscribe requests

2015-08-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 02:06:26AM -0700, Nelson Kelly wrote: [...] > Inserted the above recommended RegExp string into the ban_list, and > within minutes subscribe request bot spam began showing up in the mod > queue. > > All the new spams appear to be of a slightly different format from which

[Mailman-Users] Formatting problems with AOL subscribers

2015-10-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Hi, I run an announcement-only mailing list with mailman, and some of my subscribers are having problems with the formatting of the text. Specifically AOL users. What I'm sending is plain text with hard end-of-lines, and blank lines between paragraphs (rather like this email itself). The email

Re: [Mailman-Users] Which user is harvesting sender emails?

2016-08-18 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 04:36:58PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 08/18/2016 04:48 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > > It would be great if there were some way to send a message where the > >>From field of each recipient was slightly different, and different in > > a way that was traceable back to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

2018-01-22 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:41:28AM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 01/22/2018 11:20 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > > So, I think Thunderbird's new default is going to cause messages to go > > back to the author, ignoring the Reply-To. > > That's correct. > > > I can see how this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing Characters

2018-06-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:09:46PM -0500, David Andrews wrote: > At 07:40 PM 6/26/2018, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >On 6/26/18 5:03 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > >> On 6/26/18 2:12 PM, David Andrews wrote: > >>> I am running Mailman 2.1.26, cPanel. I had a message that I forwarded > >>> to a list using Outl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead

2019-04-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 03:25:50PM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote: > The problem is reliance on third-party libraries coupled with absence of > usable package management system. It will "generally" run within the > same major interpreter version unless it imports a package that got

[Mailman-Users] Auto-discard emails

2019-04-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask my second question, if not apologies in advance. I run an announcement-only mailing list which has become the target of a lot of spam, so I've set unsubscribed emails to be immediately discarded. 99% of the discarded emails are spam, but unfortunat

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-discard emails

2019-05-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 08:41:59PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] > I think you have to use > > whitelist_from mailman-bounces@mydomain Thanks, that seems to do the trick. Even though it is called "whitelist" it doesn't actually whitelist the emails, they're still scanned by spam assassin, bu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 07:22:38PM +0200, Till Dörges wrote: > I figured it out. And it was neither a Mailman nor a Postfix problem. > > systemd-journald simply enforced some rate limiting. After removing it > (setting > RateLimitBurst=0 in /etc/systemd/journald.conf), delivery for all mails can

[Mailman-Users] Re: lots of bounces after server move

2024-06-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Hi Jim, Not an expert here, but a thought comes to mind. When you moved to a new domain name, did you update your DMARC, DKIM, and SPF records? (Whichever you use, if any.) Maybe the recipients think the new server is not authorized to send on your behalf. On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 01:42:52PM