t one. There is also -admin defined, which I
think is just an alias for -bounces, and I don't think the
list itself actually addresses anything to that.
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ld the address be a gmail address? Gmail looks at message-Ids and
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I run a large community based mailing list using mailman (version 2.1.9,
I know a bit old, but that is what the hosting service provides) and I
have a couple of users that while normally ok, at times get into
arguments with each other on the list. A thought came up, would it be
possible to conf
On 9/27/11 5:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Richard Damon wrote:
The question is, can a spam filter be set up to check both the From
fields and the To/CC fields?
Yes, but it's awkward at best. header_filter_rules are Python regular
expressions that are matched against the entire set of me
On 9/28/11 5:06 AM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:10:34 +0100, Richard Damon
wrote:
I run a large community based mailing list using mailman (version
2.1.9, I know a bit old, but that is what the hosting service
provides) and I have a couple of users that while normally ok
On 10/4/11 11:04 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote:
Thanks for the reply. The information that I want to add to the monthly
reminder is specific to the members of one particular list. While I
guess it does not hurt to send it to all lists if I word it correctly,
it would be nice to have list specific remin
es a method that you can get a message to
one email address indicating that another, unrelated, email address is
subscribed to the list.
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he change it will not
happen. There may be a way in the settings to turn this off, but it is a
good feature to prevent you from accidentally (or on purpose) spamming
an address that doesn't want the emails.
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emember, talks of "just hitting reply" as the simplest
way to confirm, with the web link as a backup. I am tempted to rewrite
the message to ask them to click the link first, and save the reply
option as a backup if they can't follow a link.
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tion, this should work (and if it
was locked down this hard, mailing list mail would be having problems
too). Even if it does default to this sort of restriction, it should
have some way to override it, but that may not be exposed in the PLESK
control panel.
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an site,
which I can't figure out how to get to a page for iMM (might help if I
knew German which I don't).
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On 3/8/12 6:00 AM, Manuel Weiel wrote:
> Am 08.03.2012 um 05:36 schrieb Richard Damon:
>
>> On 3/7/12 9:45 PM, Manuel Weiel wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've once again updated iMailModerate.
>>> It now allows adding and removing subscribers and
there will always be a significant number of people
who have read the message without letting you know of it (unless you put
the message in the image, or on a link, so the have to go to the net to
see it).
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epped the bounds by sending
them the message. It is also quite possible that Yahoo has received
multiple complaints (the one being quoted being an example), and this is
what has prompted them to contact your ISP with the complaint.
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uot;invite" the person to subscribe, giving the
url of the subscription page as a pointer. While you can't prevent
someone from pressing the "This is spam" button, if you have done some
pre-vetting to be sure the person is likely i
oid abuse) and
now has used the "Mark as spam" button as a attempt to unsubscribe
because they can't (or won't) figure out the proper way to do it.
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hat
the key isn't too old or too young (figuring a human will take at least
a few seconds to fill out the form, but the bot won't be patient enough
to do that).
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ht
On 12/14/12 10:58 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Richard Damon wrote:
>> For other types of bots, having a key on the page that is needed to be
>> returned will help, as it will catch bots that "know" what the
>> subscription form looks like and just go around trying to
changed.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
Make sure you have set the "Action" for the filter to some other than
Defer or Accept.
A previous Accept that matches the message will override this filter.
Also, note that I think the filter it tested BEFORE the [MYLIST] is
adde
In the list options, Privacy / Sender filters there is an option "Action to
take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is defined",
set that to discard, and unless the post matches some other filter, it will be
automatically discarded. If you have command line access (which
hich qualify as
explicit to or cc destination names for this list.
Adding the list to the accepted sender list just says it will pass the
sender must be a member test, it doesn't bypass the other tests.
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On 4/3/13 8:35 AM, jdd wrote:
> Le 03/04/2013 14:11, Richard Damon a écrit :
>
>>> De: fcouchet@apri
>
>
>> This indicates that your list is setup to not allow bcc, and that the
>> destination address
>
> I added the "from" adress (fcouche
On 4/4/13 1:42 AM, jdd wrote:
> Le 04/04/2013 03:58, Richard Damon a écrit :
>
>> It looks like this message was sent to the list via the email address
>> all-april@ (which looks like a local address, since it doesn't have a
>> domain),
>
> as I said, I remove
et your host to delete the
> post from the MTA queue, or you won't get a usable allocation for a
> while (Note that AFAIK this case is usually applied by services
> that have a daily rather than a monthly quota.)
There is a fourth case, Host Provider sends the emails the
strator access.
As to approving change of address requests, are you sure this is really
needed? Normally subscription approval is used to allow the list to only
go to "approved" people, so when the subscription comes in, you approve
t
g through that list
lets me see if someone has posted a number of similar messages and is
starting to "spam" the list with them, and the order of this scan
matches the order in the admin interface.
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nd can
reply to the discussion list about them.
The problem is that each list processes its sending independently, and
don't know about the details of the interlocking subscriptions, so I
don;t think there is any way to stop the multiple emails in this case.
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Yasar
>
One simple solution is once you detect the violator, put them on
moderation and actively limit their posting.
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e visible at all, and may even break the existing formatting
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infact, it is a frequent question BECAUSE some major programs display it
as an attachment).
Note also, the problem ONLY occurs with "HTML formatted" messages, not
plain text, as for plain text messages it is safe to just add them, as
there is no formatting to get in the way.
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that will access the web pages and present a
simplified interface.
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oblem more often shows up there by people
wonder why their messages don't make it to the list, because Google
removed the list distributed one, because the poster had a copy of the
message in their outbox.
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is "automatic" so I think the second
clause is more applicable.
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tting in mailman to
control the session time on the server.
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On 11/13/13, 10:04 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 11/13/2013 05:26 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 11/13/13, 1:57 AM, Fletcher Cocquyt wrote:
>>> That is, they login once to approve a message, and after what time will the
>>> webui require them to provide their cre
ribers use the reply to header to
indicate where they want replies sent to, you will break this for them.
(The are links to fuller discussion on this at the option).
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o to the list admin, you say HE got
it, is he an admin?
Was it a bounce message (attached)? IF so, what does the bounce message
say was the problem?
If not, did they send the message to listname-bounces instead of listname?
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eld. While they are doing this, they can also remove the moderation
flag from a user whose post has been held, or add non-subscribers to the
auto-approval or auto-reject lists or ban them from subscribing.
These are the powers of a moderator.
"Managin
>
> Peter Shute
>
My guess is it depend on if iOS has asked the browser to actually close
to reclaim memory, or just put it aside, while it has been in the
background.
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but the lists email address
reference a domain that is hosted on a different machine, the domains
are different.
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the list
software send me notices of messages held for moderation and file them
in a folder sorted by subject. When I get a new notice I can see
previous messages about the person. If you put a person on moderation,
you could send yourself a message with that same subj
is just a domain change, I can
usually find the old address in the members list, but if someone set up
a forwarding for them that they forgot about, it isn't so easy.
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s trying to find out what address might be theirs. Sometimes
asking them for as many of their previous email addresses that they can
remember to look for things like can give you leads.
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nd the message is supposed
to not be delivered.
Basically, Yahoo has said that it users are not supposed to use any
mailinglist configured in the manner that they are often configured in.
Read the archives for a list of possible options.
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ng who will be charged with the "problem" Whoever
is "first" in the list of messages going to Gmail, is much less apt to
be moved, so the most likely to get kicked off.
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warnings that people got in GMail. When Yahoo upped to reject, this
doesn't seem to help. I don't know if there is supposed to be a
difference here, or if Yahoo changed something else in the DMARC record
they changed to that would cause the SPF match on Envelope to no longer
override the
On 4/13/14, 9:06 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
> Richard Damon wrote:
>
> My guess on how this works is that when you deliver to Gmail,
> one message will actually have many recipients, and you will
> get just a single rejection, which will be charged to the
> first person on the li
"identity
protection" service where people could know your emails come from you,
with the provision that you had to send all your email via their system
and couldn't post to mailing list with that account.
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goal is to generate an archive that you can easily
find recent messages in, and then be able to reply back to the list via
the web site. I will need to look at some of those options to see if any
would help in my needs.
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min
level access, you can edit the mbox file holding the messages, remove
the message, and regenerate the archives.
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by the sending provider. Said server
should have been able to DKIM sign the message, so you should never see
a message that passes SPF but fails DKIM.
Was that option just put in to allow an organization to just implement
SPF (and ignore DKIM), but change SPF to require the alignment to From: ?
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the wrapping message, not the
wrapped message, which also says that the MUA shouldn't throw this away,
but combine these with the original message (but in a way that makes it
clear which is which).
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o this long term. An alternative option would be to manually
resubmit the messages, rewriting the from address to something that
won't cause a problem (like adding .invalid to the domain of the
address). Again, this would be a pain if you can't automate it.
My own opinion is that if ther
On 5/24/14, 6:26 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Richard Damon writes:
>
> > From what I have seen, any version of Mailman before 2.1.16 (and
> > preferably 2.1.18) just isn't compatible with DMARC
>
> Please, it's the other way around! ;-) DMARC is the in
parties (like
mailing list or other 3rd party mailers) send on their behalf (unless
the standard allows a given email address to provide a cert to a 3rd
party it indicate they are an authorized remailer for them). This should
deal with the phish problem, at least once people are taught to look
tting rid of the other ubuntu machines. Thanks for the help!
>
Could your earlier tests have been done with verp or personalization
enabled? That might have made the slicing work per recipient as the
messages were broken up before sending.
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On 5/25/14, 11:30 AM, Mark Rousell wrote:
> (Not sent to list previously, apologies).
>
> On 25/05/2014 01:00, Richard Damon wrote:
>> The "problem" isn't DMARC, the problem is it's abuse by Yahoo and AOL.
>> These are big players, and it isn't real
e a few things like digest type that won't do
anything if you are not getting a digest, but that is different than
what you are saying).
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or
to the group.
Well, won't this break DKIM?
Regards
Bjoern
If they didn't break DKIM already, they wouldn't need to do this, as
they could leave From: unchanged and pass DMARC!
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dropped. It is not
checking for the messages being "identical", it is detecting
"duplicates", as defined by the RFCs for Email (if two messages are
different, they must have different Message-ID:s).
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mail address. If you subscribe to the
Mime-Digest, you will even get messages with headers.
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t the
principles of "Internet Message Format".
i have have now many alternatives.
1) the proposal from Richard Damon
2) a second account on gmail
3) a non-gmail account like gmx (i have) or a new riseup account
Many thanks for your proposals.
But, please, let us discuss more about t
(these are different names for the same mailbox).
Getting a second regular subscription won't do anything, but I was
suggesting adding a DIGEST subscription, which will arrive (eventually)
and thus giving you confirmation that the message did go through.
-
up filters to automatically reject them (though the reject
message will not be very helpful).
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n a "chunk" full of results, will get
broken into pages based on the first letter (and if there are more than
a chunk worth that begin with that letter, broken into chunk sized pieces).
If you change the chunk size to be larger than the number of members on
the list (and isn't so
t. I would
say that Volumes are typically done on an Annual basis, but I could
imagine using Monthly for a very active list.
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iolate
the 200 per hour limit every time someone posts or responds ... we have
over 900 active members.
Russell Woodford
Geelong
Australia
Have you tried changing your "chunck-size" to be 1000 (more than the
number of members?)
It is on the "General Options
Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe:
https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/richard%40damon-family.org
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Mailman tries (and I think succeeds) at not letting an outsider know who
is subscribed to a list (unless the list publishes its member list, then
that list will reveal those who don't hide their email address.)
If you want to help someone unsubscribe without them needing to use the
confirmatio
ly back to the
list with messages posted to specified forums (adding a specified tag
for topic detection).
I will post word when/if I have significant progress.
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oid holding
the Quiz up, but this assumes that everyone who messes up where to
send the replies has their program properly set up to add the Re:
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ly want to
be able to import the existing lists from the old server. (And will
probably do at least one dry run of the migration to a different
domain name just to make sure I know how to do this and that things
work before moving the live site).
Ric
false positives, you may want something
more like
Subject: .*remove.*list.*
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new messages are added as things go. Since mbox is
very close to the mail format, you can use a lot of common code.
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ybe listname-bounces?)
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Searc
On 2/13/15 11:41 AM, Tapia, Rene wrote:
Hello,
A while back I replaced our older Mailman Server with a SLES 11 SP3 Server. The
Mailman Version is 2.1.14. Everything is running fine for the most past.
The only issue that I have is that when certain large email lists send emails
containing atta
On 2/14/15 5:51 AM, adam morris wrote:
Hi all,
I'm new to mailman.
I run 4 fairly small lists.
I found somewhere but can't remember where the ability to send a
message to people if they send a message to a list and they are not
subscribed.
I could put a message somewhere that they will see to
On 2/24/15 5:34 PM, David Whited-Ford wrote:
Hi All,
Is there a way to report on unsubscribes over time?
Thanks,
Dave
You could archive the unsubscribe notifications sent to the owner
(enable them if needed) and then process them.
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explicit_destination)
If you want to generally have this behavior, but only allow messages
destined to certain addresses be BCCed to the list, then you can add
those addresses to the second item on that page (acceptable_aliases)
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nt, so it won't suppress adding it again.
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when I reply to a message from
the list I am given 3 options:
Reply
Reply All
Reply to List
The Reply to List option is made available by the List-Post header I
believe.
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m the browser so it unloads it, causing the cookies to
disappear. Perhaps using a "long-lived" login cookie, but that has other
security issues, and I am not positive that iOS browsers keep those
either (and many more people have these
16.
---Ulf Dunkel
Just setup a filter ( Privacy > SPAM Filters ) to detect messages From:
them and set the disposition to discard.
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such option that I have overseen?
Set the members moderated and set member_moderation_action to Discard.
I guess if I would do so, this could mean that I myself won't be able to
send postings to the list, too, right?
---Ulf Dunkel
You would be able to post if you make yourself not moder
The only thing I can think of is to require approval of all subscriptions (and
maybe confirmation) and then build a regexp to auto approve all addresses
without a + in them. I don't know how this will interact with the ban list (if
you need that).
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Gibbs, David
mail path, then they are going to need to pay
their MSP for the additional IP addresses to make that happen.
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r to contact t...@rx.t-online.de to clarify.) (BL)
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arely enough (It would be like
going to the doctor and saying 'I'm sick, fix me' and not letting them
examine you).
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s, and you
will get into this sort of trouble.
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way most tools work).
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ssages get placed in
one of the 'alternate' inboxes (like social or forum).
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rations, based on the list
name and and added suffix, one of which is -request, which allows you to
manipulate your email subscription via email (including the initial
subscription).
How did you subscribe to this list?
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I have the option admin_immed_notify turned on, and with that an email is sent
immediately to the moderator email address that includes as an attachment a
complete copy of the message as sent.I find this very useful to check the
message for anything funny. My mailing list is 'Plain Text Only' an
Anonymous List option on the General Options
page. It makes all messages be From: the list instead of the original
poster.
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like it is set to "Require Approval" or "Confirm and Approve"
instead of "Confirm"
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mail (or someone who
checks SPF records) will start to bounce.
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