Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman queues

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/16/20 1:20 PM, k...@keldix.com wrote: > I have a problem with removing failing subscription requests > eg from a bogus requester. I thought I could remove the request > from a queue somewhere but cannot find it. > the subscription requests keep recurring, over 1000 in my maillog -postfix The

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.30rc1 released

2020-02-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Over a month ago, I posted the following announcement particularly asking for i18n updates prior to the final release of Mailman 2.1. To date I have only received updates for the Japanese translation. If you can help update any of the other translations, please submit changes as indicated below.

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.18 for RHEL 5

2020-02-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/17/20 2:27 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote: > It turns out that the only version available for RHEL 7 is 2.1.12. > However, the mailman documentation indicates that also has DMARC > mitigation. What documentation? I assume Red Hat's. In any case, what you will have, as others have said, is 2.1.12 w

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.18 for RHEL 5

2020-02-17 Thread dmaziuk via Mailman-Users
On 2/17/2020 11:24 AM, Lindsay Haisley (linode) wrote: This is common practice for all major distributions. The only way to keep up with upstream versions is to install from same from the git-go. This has its own pitfalls, but I do this for Mailman and have never had a problem. I'm still

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.18 for RHEL 5

2020-02-17 Thread Lindsay Haisley (linode)
On Feb 17, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote: > >> On 2020-02-17 10:56, Bill Cole wrote: >> RedHat has a policy of nailing down nominal versions of software with >> each major RHEL release and then backporting whatever fixes they deem >> important into their packages over the life of t

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.18 for RHEL 5

2020-02-17 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 2020-02-17 10:56, Bill Cole wrote: > RedHat has a policy of nailing down nominal versions of software with > each major RHEL release and then backporting whatever fixes they deem > important into their packages over the life of the major release, adding > their own subordinate versioning. I k

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.18 for RHEL 5

2020-02-17 Thread Bill Cole
On 17 Feb 2020, at 5:27, Dennis Putnam wrote: On 2/16/2020 11:45 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Dennis Putnam writes: Since migrating to mailman 3 on the latest RHEL is going to take some time, I need an interim solution to DMARC mitigation. I understand version 2.1.18 Why 2.1.18? Do you

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.18 for RHEL 5

2020-02-17 Thread Dennis Putnam
On 2/16/2020 11:45 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Dennis Putnam writes: > > > Since migrating to mailman 3 on the latest RHEL is going to take some > > time, I need an interim solution to DMARC mitigation. I understand > > version 2.1.18 > > Why 2.1.18? Do you have that already installed? It

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on TMDHosting.com

2020-02-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/1/20 9:54 AM, Tim H wrote: > > Top posting my reply, hope this is OK. Oddly, my host included a > Terminal window! I have never seen that before. And it appears from the # prompt in that window that you have root access to the server. This seems to say to me that the host doesn't have muc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on TMDHosting.com

2020-01-31 Thread Brian Carpenter
On 1/31/20 12:03 AM, Tim H via Mailman-Users wrote: I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service.  I made a gziped tarball of the entire account using the usual tool. Staff at TMD brought it over and in minutes all my files were in pla

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on TMDHosting.com

2020-01-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/30/20 9:03 PM, Tim H via Mailman-Users wrote: I just moved a cluster of domains to TMDHosting.com I had two Mailman mailing lists on the old service.  I made a gziped tarball of the entire account using the usual tool. Staff at TMD brought it over and in minutes all my files were in plac

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 191, Issue 3

2020-01-05 Thread Allan Hansen
Thanks again, Mark! My responses below. > On 1/4/20 5:47 PM, Allan Hansen wrote: >> >> a. The server was set up with the wrong domain name (our fault), so I had to >> add the ‘correct’ one. I had seen the command ‘Add Domain’ in >> the UI and thought that would do it, but Brian kindly sent me a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3.0 Documentation

2019-12-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/29/19 1:27 PM, Allan Hansen wrote: > All, > > I have spent some time now trying to understand the list admin interface to > Mailman 3.0. There is no context-sensitive help and looking around at the > Mailman sites, I mostly find instructions on how to install Mailman 3.0, but > no documen

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-26 Thread Allan Hansen
Hi all, Thank you for your responses, Stephen. Much appreciated. I have forwarded them to my friend. I don’t know if he is on this list, but I have recommended that he be, so we can get over whatever hump is getting in the way. I used the instructions on the Mailman 3 site on my own attempt.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 25 Nov 2019 13:47:16 -0500 Jim Popovitch wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 11:06 -0500, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users > wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 16:59 +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > > > Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 11:06 -0500, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 16:59 +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > > Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users > > : > > > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 10:1

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/25/19 7:17 AM, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 05:04, Johannes Rohr wrote: > >> The obvious big showstopper is that there is no supported upgrade path >> from Mailman 2.* yet, according to >> >> http://www.mailman3.org/en/latest/pre-installation-guide.html#how-can-i-upgrade

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 16:59 +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > > Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users > : > > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 10:17 -0500, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > > Is there a timeline for that? Mailman 2.x requires python 2.x, which is > > > EOL in abo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Johannes Rohr
Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users < mailman-users@python.org>: > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 10:17 -0500, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > Is there a timeline for that? Mailman 2.x requires python 2.x, which is > > EOL in about 40 days. > > I keep saying this a lot..

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 10:17 -0500, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > Is there a timeline for that? Mailman 2.x requires python 2.x, which is > EOL in about 40 days. I keep saying this a lot... the EOL you are referring to is Python's declared date that the Python team will no longer maintain Python2. H

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 05:04, Johannes Rohr wrote: > The obvious big showstopper is that there is no supported upgrade path > from Mailman 2.* yet, according to > > http://www.mailman3.org/en/latest/pre-installation-guide.html#how-can-i-upgrade-from-mailman-2-1-x > and so you certainly don't want

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Johannes Rohr
Am 25.11.19 um 07:15 schrieb Stephen J. Turnbull: [...] > The obvious "turn-key" installation is to use the Docker containers, > which Abhilash keeps fairly up-to-date. But see comment below about > universal working solutions. [...] Great suggestion. Is it easy to integrate it with the syst

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.12 confirm.py works fine with http but does not work with https

2019-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/5/19 8:02 AM, jimw...@attglobal.net wrote: > > To make my website more secure, my website is configured to only work > with https and not with http. > > Please let me know how I can use confirm.py with https. > > confirm.py works fine with http, but not with https. As I said in a prior r

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Python Apache CGI issue

2019-11-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/3/19 11:08 AM, jimw...@attglobal.net wrote: > > Confirming the subscription using the email method works fine, but the > web page confirmation is having problems. > > For a user named "dot" joining the Skipper group, the URL is: > > http:///mailman/confirm/skipper/b36adbfa6d4b9af927197b750

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman with Interworx server administration

2019-11-04 Thread Brian Carpenter
On 11/4/19 5:24 PM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: Hi all Our hosting provider writes that he wants to change from cPanel to Interworx. At present, we have our virtual server on cPanel version 78.0.41, which includes Mailman version 2.1.27. I found a comparison of the two envir

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not functional

2019-10-17 Thread Bill Cole
On 17 Oct 2019, at 16:41, Steven Jones wrote: ssh takes a long time to login but there is no load to cause this. The first thing to suspect when logins take a long time with no tangible loading issues (i/o, memory, and CPU all good) is DNS. If your resolver is trying to query a non-responsiv

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not functional

2019-10-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/17/19 3:59 PM, Steven Jones wrote: > thanks > > I am sort of suspecting postfix as /var/log/maillog is not being written to. > > meanwhile, > > /var/log/mailman/smtp has something odd. The time to send email varies > between 0.017 and 180 seconds plus, and its getting worse, > > ===

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not functional

2019-10-17 Thread Steven Jones
: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [root@vuwunicomailmn1 mailman]# = and its now 11:50am Ok to assume the above in the qrunner log is normal? regards Steven From: Mailman-Users on behalf of Mark Sapiro Sent: Friday, 18 October 2019 10:29 AM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not functional

2019-10-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/17/19 1:41 PM, Steven Jones wrote: > Hi, > > Yesterday we had a major network outage that lasted 2 hours+ This morning I > find that the mailman server has "stopped working" I have restarted mailman > and now the server but mailman is not processing any emails. The load in top > is 0.

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-10-09 Thread 황병희
Sorry for late, i need to time think about that. Thanks you for *everyone* for me to feedback, indeed... Sincerely, -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))// -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/26/19 9:59 AM, Bill Richards wrote: > Mark > > I read the wiki and have inserted the "RedirectPermanent" statement in the > httpd.conf file and restarted apache. Then I ran > "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url aewa" and the following > results came back: > > Importing fix_url... >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-26 Thread Bill Richards
Mark I read the wiki and have inserted the "RedirectPermanent" statement in the httpd.conf file and restarted apache. Then I ran "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url aewa" and the following results came back: Importing fix_url... Running fix_url.fix_url()... Loading list aewa (locked) Sa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-25 Thread Bill Richards
Sorry, It wasn't actually home I just cut and pasted the wrong line from .bash_history. I searched multiple directories but found the matches under /var/lib/mailman I'll check the maillogs in the morning. re: the link, yes I recently converted the web site to https so I'll review that link in t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/25/19 10:40 AM, Bill Richards wrote: > Mark > > Ran dumpdb against all the pck files and saw no instances of "new-" yet > when using > > find /home -xdev -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -H "new-" > > it finds matches in config.pck, config.pck.last & config.pck.safety I'm not sure why you

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-25 Thread Bill Richards
Mark Ran dumpdb against all the pck files and saw no instances of "new-" yet when using find /home -xdev -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -H "new-" it finds matches in config.pck, config.pck.last & config.pck.safety On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 8:28 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 8/24/19 5:33 PM, Bill

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/24/19 5:33 PM, Bill Richards wrote: > The domain is correct from the web page General Options -> host_name > attribute of the list > > The dumpdb against config.pck shows a lot of list members email addresses, > "accept_non_members", "ban_list", etc. It is very long (2413 lines). What > spe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Dale
Hi, It sounds like you now have it sorted with Namazu, but for what it's worth there is an excellent guide to install Namazu "out of the box" on Mailman 2.1.* at: http://bakacsin.ki.iif.hu/~kissg/project/mailman+namazu/ And no issues with Private archives or incorrect URLs. /Mark On

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-24 Thread Bill Richards
The domain is correct from the web page General Options -> host_name attribute of the list The dumpdb against config.pck shows a lot of list members email addresses, "accept_non_members", "ban_list", etc. It is very long (2413 lines). What specifically am I looking for to get the attributes? Bi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/24/19 3:14 PM, Bill Richards wrote: > > After digging around I've found that I maybe experiencing some kind if > config corruption in pck files under /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman When > looking through the smtp-failure log I noticed errors "Sender address > rejected: Domain not found" and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:20:42 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 8/24/19 1:15 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > > > OK, I have installed Namazu, which will do what I want, *BUT* pipermail.pl > > is > > missing from the tarball I downloaded from the Namazu website. Where can I > > get that file. At

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/24/19 1:15 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > It is not clear if any of the options on that page will work for *private* > archives. Most seem to be using an *external* third party search engine. > I'm > guessing I need to write a script (*I* don't know phthon and don't really > like > PHP)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/24/19 1:15 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > OK, I have installed Namazu, which will do what I want, *BUT* pipermail.pl is > missing from the tarball I downloaded from the Namazu website. Where can I > get that file. At this point, the search works, but the URI's are wrong > (local file name,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 24 Aug 2019 08:46:50 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 8/24/19 5:59 AM, Robert Heller wrote: > > Is it possible to have a search (eg by keyword) feature available for > > private > > archives with Mailman version 2.1.16? There is no obvious setting for it. > > > See

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 24 Aug 2019 08:46:50 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 8/24/19 5:59 AM, Robert Heller wrote: > > Is it possible to have a search (eg by keyword) feature available for > > private > > archives with Mailman version 2.1.16? There is no obvious setting for it. > > > See

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman version 2.1.16 -- Search of *private* archives?

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/24/19 5:59 AM, Robert Heller wrote: > Is it possible to have a search (eg by keyword) feature available for private > archives with Mailman version 2.1.16? There is no obvious setting for it. See . -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San F

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman eats this message. Why?

2019-08-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Sorry for the delay, I left this in my drafts folder "for lunch" and forgot it. Brett Delmage writes: > And it is working! Great! Thank you for reporting status. > The stupid thing is that I never changed anything. That's useful to know, it means I'm not going crazy. But these things happe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman eats this message. Why?

2019-08-02 Thread Brett Delmage
Stephen and Christian, Thank you for your most helpful replies. I did some additional testing. I remembered (after) that I had a copy of the original message as received by Mailman, as I was copying the Mailman posting address mail to another mbox for debugging. Also, the user who had HTML-on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman eats this message. Why?

2019-08-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Christian, Thanks for the analysis! Brett, Whenever possible, you should send the whole message, preferably as an attachment, redacting only personally identifying information. This includes display names and comments attached to mail addresses as well as the addresses themselves in From, To, C

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman eats this message. Why?

2019-08-01 Thread mailman-admin
Hello Sending text/html emails is ok. But using "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit" with UTF-8 content can get it dumped if: * there is any character not ASCII in the whole email * there is any line with more than 1000 characters in the whole email Not sure, if that is your problem, as you redacted

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman start error

2019-05-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/11/19 7:43 AM, Web Analysts via Mailman-Users wrote: > I'm now getting an error when I start Mailman: > > root@primeo:~# /etc/init.d/mailman start > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 106, in > from Mailman import mm_cfg > File "/usr/l

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman headers get corrupted / incomplete

2019-03-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/24/19 1:14 PM, wally b wrote: > > Maybe I found the cause of this: > (last part of) the headers look like this: > > > X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on b(0, 0, = > 0);" class=3D"">Als u zich = > wilt afmelden voor deze emails, laat ... > > > > The text "..b(0,.." etc seems not to belong

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/25/19 8:21 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Noted.  I think it would be possible to interject a shim between > fetchmail that would extract what's necessary to speak LMTP to Mailman. Yes, it would be possible. > Is the LMTP still STDIN / STDOUT or something else (possibly a U

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-25 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 3/24/19 11:50 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: This should work in Mailman 2, but won't in Mailman 3 (which expects incoming posts via LMTP). Noted. I think it would be possible to interject a shim between fetchmail that would extract what's necessary to speak LMTP to Mailman. Is the LMTP

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users writes: > I'm talking about bypassing the local MTA all together. Pipe fetcmail's > STDOUT to a wrapper script to extract the command and mailing list > before piping it into the mailman executable with said command and > mailing list. This should work in Ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-21 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 3/21/19 4:04 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote: I honestly don't remember the details but if I was passing mail to local MTA configured as my home MX, I don't see why mailman wouldn't work behind that. I think that it should. I'm talking about bypassing the local MTA all together.

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-21 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 3/21/19 3:57 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > Fetchmail itself is plenty common.  I had no idea that it was as common > with Mailman.  209 hits on the link that Mark shared. I honestly don't remember the details but if I was passing mail to local MTA configured as my home MX, I don'

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-21 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 3/21/19 2:05 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote: IST vaguely R firing up fetchmail from a dip script to inject messages from my school mailbox into my local qmail... Plenty typical at the time. Fetchmail itself is plenty common. I had no idea that it was as common with Mailman. 20

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-21 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 3/21/19 1:56 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 3/21/19 11:29 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: >> >> I see no technical reason why Mailman couldn't function via something >> like fetchmail from a POP3 mailbox and SMTP Authentication to send. ... >> It would be quite atypical.  But I think it s

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/21/19 11:29 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I see no technical reason why Mailman couldn't function via something > like fetchmail from a POP3 mailbox and SMTP Authentication to send. > > Fetchmail would pull the messages from an external 3rd party email > server, do a little p

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-21 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 3/21/19 11:58 AM, Adam Goldberg wrote: There are ways around this. I see no technical reason why Mailman couldn't function via something like fetchmail from a POP3 mailbox and SMTP Authentication to send. Fetchmail would pull the messages from an external 3rd party email server, do a lit

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-21 Thread Adam Goldberg
A consumer internet connection frequently has incoming port 25 simply blocked, and outgoing port 25 either blocked entirely or blocked for all but the ISP’s outgoing mail server. There are ways around this.Consider duocircle.com “backup mx” service. > On Mar 21, 2019, at 1:44 PM, Mark Sapi

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/20/19 11:40 PM, 황병희 wrote: > i just did make one vm instance Ubuntu 18.04 on google compute > engine. barely i did install postfix at there. hmm if possible, i wish > to run mailing service for my family and me -- it needs a little bit some > comunication plus some > records about family hist

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on google comput engine

2019-03-21 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 3/21/19 12:40 AM, 황병희 wrote: in this case i can run mailman with other port (example 625)? again question, Mailman can act with 625 or 1625 or 2625, ...? No. Not directly. Mailman is not a mail server. You must have a mail server (daemon) sit in front of Mailman. You can make that mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & DMARC policy = none?

2018-12-31 Thread Richard Damon
On 12/31/18 3:08 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/31/18 10:36 AM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: >> I'm curious as to how people are setting >> 'dmarc_none_moderation_action'... which controls how Mailman handles >> domains with a dmarc policy action of none (like gmail.com). >> >> Is there a c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & DMARC policy = none?

2018-12-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/31/18 10:36 AM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I'm curious as to how people are setting > 'dmarc_none_moderation_action'... which controls how Mailman handles > domains with a dmarc policy action of none (like gmail.com). > > Is there a compelling reason to set it to Yes so that m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Exim in Ubuntu

2018-12-16 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Hello Barry, I was able to resolve this, using the Ubuntu package itself, so I do not need to manually compile. But it also gave me the impetus of learning how to manually compile stuff in Linux . Now that MM21 is running, I need help running MM3 alongside it and migrate from 2.1 The main purpose

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Exim in Ubuntu

2018-12-16 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On 12/16/2018 3:05 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 at 20:13, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 12/15/18 1:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: # User and group for Mailman, should match your --with-mail-gid # switch to Mailman's configure script. Value is normally "mailman" MM_UID=list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Exim in Ubuntu

2018-12-16 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 at 20:13, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/15/18 1:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > # User and group for Mailman, should match your --with-mail-gid > > # switch to Mailman's configure script. Value is normally "mailman" > > MM_UID=list > > MM_GID=list > > > > Now, posts ca

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Exim in Ubuntu

2018-12-15 Thread Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 09:13:27 -0800 Mark Sapiro wrote: > My recomendation, especially if you want help from this list is to > junk the Ubuntu package and install from source. I would recommend ditching ubuntu, too, and going with something that a) isn't systemd and b) comes with postfix. If I we

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Exim in Ubuntu

2018-12-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/15/18 1:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > # User and group for Mailman, should match your --with-mail-gid > # switch to Mailman's configure script. Value is normally "mailman" > MM_UID=list > MM_GID=list > > Now, posts cannot be delivered because: > 2018-12-15 00:00:58 1gXuEg-0006Hn-2J

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-12-09 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 22:37, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/9/18 10:14 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > In my quest to run Mailman3, I obtained a VM running Ubuntu 18.04 and > > started on getting to run Mailman3. > > I found this link -> https://github.com/iomarmochtar/mailman3_ei > > It has i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-12-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/9/18 10:14 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > In my quest to run Mailman3, I obtained a VM running Ubuntu 18.04 and > started on getting to run Mailman3. > I found this link -> https://github.com/iomarmochtar/mailman3_ei > It has instructions which looked fairly simple to get Mailman3 instal

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-09 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 03:47, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/7/18 2:12 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 07:27, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > >> On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > >>> I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/7/18 2:12 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 07:27, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. >>> I'd like to get an inside of these changes: >>> 1. how many member

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-07 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 07:27, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > > I'd like to get an inside of these changes: > > 1. how many members joined last month, this month.. > > 2. How many me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hi All, > > I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > I'd like to get an inside of these changes: > 1. how many members joined last month, this month.. > 2. How many members left last month, this month, this year. I had some time

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-03 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 17:55, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/3/18 6:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > Mark, how about a request to incorporate those options in the following > > script? > > > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/annotate/head%3A/contrib/mmdsr > > > > I am th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/3/18 6:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Mark, how about a request to incorporate those options in the following > script? > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/annotate/head%3A/contrib/mmdsr > > I am thinking that for you, it'd would be clear (probably simpler) what

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-03 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 17:11, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > > I'd like to get an inside of these changes: > > 1. how many members joined last month, this month.. > > 2. How many me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hi All, > > I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > I'd like to get an inside of these changes: > 1. how many members joined last month, this month.. > 2. How many members left last month, this month, this year. > > I keep the l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-03 Thread Richard Damon
On 12/3/18 7:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hi All, > > I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > I'd like to get an inside of these changes: > 1. how many members joined last month, this month.. > 2. How many members left last month, this month, this year. > > I keep the log

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 on Docker

2018-11-23 Thread Odhiambo Washington
itself as I have seen > issues with volume mounts for that one. > > Andrew. > > > From: Odhiambo Washington [odhia...@gmail.com] > Sent: 23 November 2018 16:23 > To: Andrew Hodgson > Cc: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 on Docker

2018-11-23 Thread Andrew Hodgson
ndrew. From: Odhiambo Washington [odhia...@gmail.com] Sent: 23 November 2018 16:23 To: Andrew Hodgson Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 on Docker I looked at the link you've suggested and it seems like it's meant for someone running

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 on Docker

2018-11-23 Thread Odhiambo Washington
I looked at the link you've suggested and it seems like it's meant for someone running docker on Linux, not Windows which is what I'm trying to test this on. The mkdir /opt.. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 19:02 Andrew Hodgson Hi, > > As that uses Mailman-Bundler now its probably not the best way even if

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 on Docker

2018-11-23 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hi, As that uses Mailman-Bundler now its probably not the best way even if it still works. I would recommend looking at the repo here: https://github.com/maxking/docker-mailman Hope this helps. Andrew. From: Mailman-Users [mailman-users-bounces+andrew=h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.18 - Users can not subscribe to mailing list

2018-11-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/8/18 2:24 PM, Bastian Binder wrote: > > The error occurs only on 2 mailing lists. The other mailing lists work fine. > The mailman configuration has not changed. The main difference to the working > lists is, that in the Form-URL on the listinfo page does forward to an URL > where a "/cg

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 and EAI

2018-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/8/18 1:19 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > As far as I can tell, Mailman 3 will not let me include an EAI email > address as a mail list recipient. This was discussed more that two > years ago, but I do not think the support in Mailman 3 has changed. Correct. It is still not supported. Also, a b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & DMARC question

2018-11-05 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 10:07 -0600, David Gibbs wrote: > My quandary is: Is there any risk in implementing my own more > restrictive DMARC policy? > > Currently my DMARC policy is 'p=none' ... but I'd like to change that > to 'p=quarantine'. > > Is there any risk running mailing lists from a domai

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman generated email

2018-10-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/22/18 4:20 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > > What's the definitive way to describe to him the [crontab?] mechanism that > generates the overnight "pending moder requests" message that mailman > generates. He doesn't even understand that with the messages I forwarded to > him for comparison w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman architectural overview incomplete?

2018-10-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/21/18 2:42 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > This document: > > http://terri.zone12.com/doc/mailman/mailman-admin.pdf > > describes on p. 4 the basics of incoming queue management. But it stops > with outgoing queue details absent. Is this written up somewhere? If you're talking about section 2.4

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Migration

2018-10-07 Thread James Kelleway
Thanks all for the great advice! On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:22 PM Keith Seyffarth wrote: > > > We have a client who uses mailman on a plesk server. They are in the > > process of moving to a cpanel server but we have no experience with > mailman > > and were wondering if anyone experienced devs co

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Migration

2018-10-06 Thread Keith Seyffarth
> We have a client who uses mailman on a plesk server. They are in the > process of moving to a cpanel server but we have no experience with mailman > and were wondering if anyone experienced devs could give us a quote to > perform the migration for us? Please feel free to reach out with any > qu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Migration

2018-10-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/05/2018 10:03 AM, James Kelleway wrote: > > We have a client who uses mailman on a plesk server. They are in the > process of moving to a cpanel server but we have no experience with mailman > and were wondering if anyone experienced devs could give us a quote to > perform the migration for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman consultants ?

2018-10-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/02/2018 12:49 PM, John Levine wrote: > > Is there a list of people who do this kind of stuff? Or is there > some other place I should inquire? There is a short list at . There is also a link there to the Python Jobs Board. -- Ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.X and HTTPS

2018-07-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/26/2018 04:48 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > The issue is probably that the links still point to the http version, > which is redirecting to the https and losing the form data. You need to > change the config variable that gives the base page for the admin pages > to point to the https version.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.X and HTTPS

2018-07-26 Thread Richard Damon
On 7/26/18 7:26 AM, Jayson Smith wrote: > Hi, > > > I'm currently using 2.1.26. Recently I had LetsEncrypt add lines to my > Apache configuration to redirect browsers from HTTP to HTTPS URLs. > This morning I found that this doesn't seem to work well with Mailman > database admin pages, I couldn't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Migrate 3.0 (beta) to 3.2

2018-07-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/25/2018 06:55 AM, Ryan McClung wrote: > The mailman 3.0 install is on the same box as 3.2. Is there a quick and > dirty way to flip over? Other than updating your MTA and web server to point at the 3.2 install, you need to ensure that 3.2 accesses the old 3.0 database(s) and after doing so,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.x to 3.1.x Migration

2018-07-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/25/2018 02:54 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > Thanks for this; I am on the Docker version which is not updated yet. once > it gets updated and I migrate to it, will I be able to re-import those > missing messages by running a complete import again or will this cause more > trouble now? Y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.x to 3.1.x Migration

2018-07-25 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 07/24/2018 06:32 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: [...] >> - There were older messages in the mbox without message-ids in the archive >> that failed to import. I took the easy way out on this one and didn't >> import them. In an archive with around 120,000 messages it rejecte

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.x to 3.1.x Migration

2018-07-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/24/2018 06:32 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > Once done you can see the results by navigating to your Mailman instance and > you can see the data about the list such as the creation date, number of > posts and the members. For some reason on my instance the last post date is > still the la

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