Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-30 Thread Till Dörges
Am 31.05.19 um 02:46 schrieb Steven D'Aprano: > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 07:22:38PM +0200, Till Dörges wrote: > >> I figured it out. And it was neither a Mailman nor a Postfix problem. >> >> systemd-journald simply enforced some rate limiting. After removing it >> (setting >> RateLimitBurst=0 in /

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-30 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 5/30/19 7:46 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Or that systemd prevented the emails from being sent in the first place, > and didn't log the fact that it had done so? I don't think systemd metastasized its own smtpd just yet, so it probably can't do that. Fear not, though, it has its own DNS resol

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 07:22:38PM +0200, Till Dörges wrote: > I figured it out. And it was neither a Mailman nor a Postfix problem. > > systemd-journald simply enforced some rate limiting. After removing it > (setting > RateLimitBurst=0 in /etc/systemd/journald.conf), delivery for all mails can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-30 Thread Till Dörges
Am 09.05.19 um 23:33 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > On 5/9/19 2:06 PM, Till Dörges wrote: >> Curiously for the message that was not delivered to the specific user I did >> /not/ >> find a message by Postfix like the following in /var/log/mail: [...] >> To me that looks as if Postfix did in deed not compl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/9/19 2:06 PM, Till Dörges wrote: > > I will try with VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL set to 1, to see whether all messages > are > accounted for then. > > IIRC, setting VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 effectively means to ignore > SMTP_MAX_RCPTS > and only submit 1 mail at a time to the MTA. That's co

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-09 Thread Till Dörges
Hi Mark, thanks for your quick answer! Am 09.05.19 um 14:31 schrieb Mark Sapiro: > I assume there's nothing in /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp-failure since if > there were, these would also be recorded as bounces. /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp-failure does not have any entries related to the issue.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/9/19 3:49 AM, Till Dörges wrote: > > /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp gives me a log entry with the original messages > and claims > to have sent it to 416 recips (which is correct). I assume there's nothing in /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp-failure since if there were, these would also be recorded

[Mailman-Users] Why are mails not being sent to all users (mails seem to disappear)?

2019-05-09 Thread Till Dörges
Hello all, we're using mailman-2.1.29 to operate a list where all users are moderated. The MTA used is postfix 3.2.0. Generally everything seems to be working fine. I.e. when I send out an e-mail I have several confirmations that it arrives under the addresses subscribed to the list. However,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is a Mail stuck in qfiles/bad

2017-03-27 Thread Markus Bobe
Nachricht- Von: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+mb=bw-networx@python.org] Im Auftrag von Mark Sapiro Gesendet: Freitag, 24. März 2017 20:40 An: mailman-users@python.org Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is a Mail stuck in qfiles/bad On 03/24/2017 03:53 AM, Markus Bobe wrote

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is a Mail stuck in qfiles/bad

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 03/24/2017 03:53 AM, Markus Bobe wrote: > > The error log says: > > Mar 24 11:11:18 2017 (18258) .bak file max count, preserving file: > 1490350277.837968+0696655d510e3bad34fee55513eec06ed9b3413c In order to not lose messages in the event of a hard server crash, power outage, etc., when a M

[Mailman-Users] Why is a Mail stuck in qfiles/bad

2017-03-24 Thread Markus Bobe
Hi! I have a mailinglist running for several years now, but today a mail keeps getting stuck in qfiles/bad/ and I can't find a reason (or one I don't understand). The error log says: Mar 24 11:11:18 2017 (18258) .bak file max count, preserving file: 1490350277.837968+0696655d510e3bad34fee5551

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?

2016-09-03 Thread William Bagwell
On Friday 02 September 2016, Richard Johnson wrote: > This is strange. One of my list users gets digest messages as a series of > attachments, while all other users receive digests as all text, with the > messages one after the other. > > The person who gets the attachments has a Cox.net address.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?

2016-09-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/02/2016 11:23 PM, Richard Johnson wrote: > Actually, my list is setup to send all digests in text format. I was toying > with the idea of sending in MIME format. Maybe that would be better? I assume you mean that Digest options -> mime_is_default_digest is set to Plain, but that only sets

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?

2016-09-02 Thread Richard Johnson
Actually, my list is setup to send all digests in text format. I was toying with the idea of sending in MIME format. Maybe that would be better? But it sounds as if you're saying that a user can specify that they want MIME instead of there configured version, somewhere in their personal config?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?

2016-09-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/02/2016 06:48 PM, Richard Johnson wrote: > This is strange. One of my list users gets digest messages as a series of > attachments, while all other users receive digests as all text, with the > messages one after the other. > > The person who gets the attachments has a Cox.net address. M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?

2016-09-02 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 9/2/2016 6:48 PM, Richard Johnson wrote: This is strange. One of my list users gets digest messages as a series of attachments, while all other users receive digests as all text, with the messages one after the other. The person who gets the attachments has a Cox.net address. Maybe they're

[Mailman-Users] Why do some get digests as a series of attachments?

2016-09-02 Thread Richard Johnson
This is strange. One of my list users gets digest messages as a series of attachments, while all other users receive digests as all text, with the messages one after the other. The person who gets the attachments has a Cox.net address. Maybe they're doing something to it? /raj (sent from iP

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-31 Thread Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive
Thank you to Steve Turnbull and Mark Shapiro for helping me brainstorm why my mailing list was not working. It turns out it was not a Mailman problem after all. my provider sent me new server info that went straight into my spam box, and so when it was time to update my mail server (send and rec

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive writes: > Right. I received it. > I responded once from the same account. And once from the > Tokyoprogressive account. To "st...@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp"? I don't see either one yet, but that could be my network. The university just upgraded the network and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-23 Thread Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive
Thanks for your message, Steven. > On 2015/08/24, at 1:44, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive writes: > >> Actually I am not sure what PTR is…..but my reseller hosting is >> just that, I pay for space from EZPZ and then can do as described >> above. > > Ah, sorry.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive writes: > Actually I am not sure what PTR is…..but my reseller hosting is > just that, I pay for space from EZPZ and then can do as described > above. Ah, sorry. PTR is the pointer record from a numeric IP address to a human-readable domain name. > I see. Not s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-22 Thread Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive
Thank you Stephen….. > On Aug 22, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive writes: > >> I looked in Cpanel and could see no directory starting with /usr/. Stephen: > > cPanel won't give you access to that, I'm pretty sure. You need to > have shell acce

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-22 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive writes: > I looked in Cpanel and could see no directory starting with /usr/. cPanel won't give you access to that, I'm pretty sure. You need to have shell access to the host or virtual machine. If you don't know if you have shell access, you probably don't. Large

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-21 Thread Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive
Thank you, Mark. I looked in Cpanel and could see no directory starting with /usr/. I have a reseller account and nangoku-jiyu-jin.net is a subset of turnlefthostimg.org , but for now I am looking in the cpanel for nangoku-jiyu-jin.ne

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/20/2015 06:24 PM, Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive wrote: > Thank you Mark. About Vette list, I don't know if I have shell access. I > have CPanel, and that is all I have used. Any way to check? On cPanel, if you can access the file system, you'll find Mailman's logs in /usr/local/cpanel

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-20 Thread Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive
Thank you Mark. About Vette list, I don't know if I have shell access. I have CPanel, and that is all I have used. Any way to check? I will, in the meantime, try another subject, though somehow I don't think that is it, as I havenever set anything to discard. Anyway to check what my setting

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to my own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/20/2015 04:37 AM, Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive wrote: > I have had my own mailman list for two years. Recently, messages I sent to > the list neither appeared (when sent from my regular email account), nor > generated a message that the message was being held for moderation, when sent > f

[Mailman-Users] Why do my posts to my own mailman list disappear.

2015-08-20 Thread Paul Arenson/tokyoprogressive
I have had my own mailman list for two years. Recently, messages I sent to the list neither appeared (when sent from my regular email account), nor generated a message that the message was being held for moderation, when sent from another email account. I have no clue. Well, just one really. Re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-03-08 Thread Peter Shute
In case anyone's interested, I've "solved" this problem of Safari, etc, letting the cookie expire and logging out of the moderator page on the iPad by installing LastPass Tab. This is a password manager and, because of iOS restrictions that prevent an app from entering a password for another app

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Peter Shute
> On 6 Feb 2014, at 11:03 am, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > > I use Firefox on an Android phone and it quite happily saves Mailman's > admin login passwords w/o a user field. No such thing for iOS, unfortunately, although I'm betting all the other browsers available for Android will save a mailman pas

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/05/2014 03:57 PM, Peter Shute wrote: >> On 6 Feb 2014, at 9:55 am, "Gary Algier" wrote: >> >> I use a password management plugin with Firefox (and IE8) and it does not >> handle the Mailman code well. I assumed it was because of the lack of a >> user >> field. I had the same problem whe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Peter Shute
> On 6 Feb 2014, at 9:55 am, "Gary Algier" wrote: >>> Firefox offers to save the passwords to the same pages on a PC. I guess >>> that means it's totally an iOS problem. >> >> It's interesting though that none of the other iOS apps I've tried offer to >> save it either - Atomic Lite, Chrome, D

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Gary Algier
On 02/05/14 16:12, Peter Shute wrote: On 6 Feb 2014, at 5:22 am, "Peter Shute" wrote: My experience with Firefox mostly on various Linux, Mac and Windows platforms is that it does not always offer to save passwords, particularly those from financial institution websites, but it does always off

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Peter Shute
On 6 Feb 2014, at 5:22 am, "Peter Shute" wrote: >> My experience with Firefox mostly on various Linux, Mac and Windows >> platforms is that it does not always offer to save passwords, >> particularly those from financial institution websites, but it does >> always offer to save Mailman passwords.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Peter Shute
> On 6 Feb 2014, at 1:45 am, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > >> On 02/04/2014 11:30 PM, Peter Shute wrote: >> >> Can anyone tell me why the moderator page won't let me save the password in >> any of the iOS browser apps I've tried? None let me enter the URL and >> password myself, I have to wait for th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/04/2014 11:30 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > Can anyone tell me why the moderator page won't let me save the password in > any of the iOS browser apps I've tried? None let me enter the URL and > password myself, I have to wait for them to offer to save them, but none of > them offer for that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Shute
> On 5 Feb 2014, at 10:55 am, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > > And have you asked Apple about it? No, I wanted to eliminate the possibility that it's a mailman problem first. It's a pity I don't still have access to iOS6, so I could make sure it's an iOS7 problem. Another change that occurred around t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Richard Damon
On 2/4/14, 6:03 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > I agree that convenience is often at the expense of security, but I feel that > this is just a side efect of something they've done with multitasking. The > cookies are supposed to expire if I close the browser, but I haven't. I've > only swapped to anoth

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/04/2014 03:03 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > I agree that convenience is often at the expense of security, but I feel that > this is just a side efect of something they've done with multitasking. The > cookies are supposed to expire if I close the browser, but I haven't. I've > only swapped t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Shute
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I don't have access to do that, and I think it's probably > too > difficult for me anyway. I was hoping it was a > configuration option > that I could ask the administrator to > try. Maybe I'll just pray > that iOS 7.1 fixes it. > > Unlikely. This "feature" i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Shute
Duane Hill wrote: > >>> I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays > logged in for as long as I keep the browser open. But with > Safari on iPhone and iPad, I often have to log in again when > I return to it. Same for every other browser I've tried under > iOS. Can anyone tell me w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Duane Hill
Monday, February 3, 2014, 7:53:20 PM, Peter wrote: >> On 4 Feb 2014, at 12:26 pm, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: >> >>> On 02/03/2014 05:04 PM, Peter Shute wrote: >>> I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays logged in for as >>> long as I keep the browser open. But with Safari on iPhone an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Shute writes: > I don't have access to do that, and I think it's probably too > difficult for me anyway. I was hoping it was a configuration option > that I could ask the administrator to try. Maybe I'll just pray > that iOS 7.1 fixes it. Unlikely. This "feature" is a *fix*. The probl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-03 Thread Peter Shute
> On 4 Feb 2014, at 1:27 pm, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > >> On 02/03/2014 05:53 PM, Peter Shute wrote: >> >> That makes sense. Is there any way around it? Is it possible to make it use >> persistent cookies? > > > If you're willing to modify the code, see the MakeCookie function in > Mailman/Secur

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/03/2014 05:53 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > That makes sense. Is there any way around it? Is it possible to make it use > persistent cookies? If you're willing to modify the code, see the MakeCookie function in Mailman/SecurityManager.py. You could replace the comment # We use sess

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-03 Thread Peter Shute
> On 4 Feb 2014, at 12:26 pm, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > >> On 02/03/2014 05:04 PM, Peter Shute wrote: >> I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays logged in for as >> long as I keep the browser open. But with Safari on iPhone and iPad, I often >> have to log in again when I return to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/03/2014 05:04 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays logged in for as long > as I keep the browser open. But with Safari on iPhone and iPad, I often have > to log in again when I return to it. Same for every other browser I've tried > under iOS. Ca

[Mailman-Users] Why does iOS's Safari log out the moderator web page?

2014-02-03 Thread Peter Shute
I use the moderator web page with Firefox, and it stays logged in for as long as I keep the browser open. But with Safari on iPhone and iPad, I often have to log in again when I return to it. Same for every other browser I've tried under iOS. Can anyone tell me why? Peter Shute

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is Mailman still sending bounce messages?

2012-11-08 Thread Josh Berkus
On 11/8/12 4:37 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: >> >> So Mailman could have already marked a user as bounced, even though the >> MTA still has mail to them in the queue? > > > No. Mailman will only score a bounce for a DSN that indicates failure. > Any MTA that keeps a message queued

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is Mailman still sending bounce messages?

2012-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Josh Berkus wrote: > >So Mailman could have already marked a user as bounced, even though the >MTA still has mail to them in the queue? No. Mailman will only score a bounce for a DSN that indicates failure. Any MTA that keeps a message queued for delivery after returning a failure DSN is seriousl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is Mailman still sending bounce messages?

2012-11-08 Thread Josh Berkus
> The lie is that there is no distinction between hard and soft bounces. > Any recognized DSN returned to Mailman with a status of undeliverable > is a hard bounce (score = 1.0), even if the reason is something like > full mailbox. Anything that indicates the MTA is still trying to > deliver is ig

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is Mailman still sending bounce messages?

2012-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Josh Berkus wrote: > >BTW, how does bounce scoring work? I couldn't find any documentation on it. The documentation is at the "(Details for bounce_score_threshold)" link on the web admin Bounce processing page, but it lies. The lie is that there is no distinction between hard and soft bounces.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is Mailman still sending bounce messages?

2012-11-08 Thread Josh Berkus
> That's quite likely the correct explanation. I will play with settings > and see if I can get bounce queuing down. BTW, how does bounce scoring work? I couldn't find any documentation on it. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is Mailman still sending bounce messages?

2012-11-08 Thread Josh Berkus
> I am guessing that what you are saying is these messages are queued in > Postfix for addresses that give a Postfix retryable error. If you are > saying something different, please clarify as to where they are queued > and perhaps what their content is. Correct. > If my guess is correct, what i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is Mailman still sending bounce messages?

2012-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Josh Berkus wrote: >> >> 1) I set bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings=0 >> >> 2) Using a withlist script, I removed all list members with any bounce >> stats at all. >> >> Yet, when I checked today, there were 98 outgoing bounce warnings >> (undeliverable) in the queue. Huh? > >Clarification: 98 *

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why is Mailman still sending bounce messages?

2012-11-08 Thread Josh Berkus
On 11/8/12 9:53 AM, Josh Berkus wrote: > Folks, > > 1) I set bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings=0 > > 2) Using a withlist script, I removed all list members with any bounce > stats at all. > > Yet, when I checked today, there were 98 outgoing bounce warnings > (undeliverable) in the queue. Huh?

[Mailman-Users] Why is Mailman still sending bounce messages?

2012-11-08 Thread Josh Berkus
Folks, 1) I set bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings=0 2) Using a withlist script, I removed all list members with any bounce stats at all. Yet, when I checked today, there were 98 outgoing bounce warnings (undeliverable) in the queue. Huh? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.

Re: [Mailman-Users] why "bounces"??????

2011-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Arthur wrote: >Subscribers posting messages receive a message back saying their message is >being held waiting for approval by the moderator. >I receive a message advising me there is a message awaiting approval. >However, the message the poster receives has the following in the From: box >

[Mailman-Users] why "bounces"??????

2011-02-06 Thread David Arthur
I have a mailing list and am the owner and moderator. People posting messages must be subscribers and the messages are sent to me as moderator to be approved. Subscribers posting messages receive a message back saying their message is being held waiting for approval by the moderator. I receive a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are old messages appearing all of a sudden all the time?

2009-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/21/2009 9:52 AM, Adam McGreggor wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 09:34:51AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >> This is a bit annoying. > > Those with an X-Mailman-Approved-At: header, par chance? Oh, right... sorry... -- Best regards, Charles

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are old messages appearing all of a sudden all the time?

2009-10-21 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 09:34:51AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > This is a bit annoying. Those with an X-Mailman-Approved-At: header, par chance? -- If tin whistles are made of tin, what are foghorns made of? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-U

[Mailman-Users] Why are old messages appearing all of a sudden all the time?

2009-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
This is a bit annoying. -- Best regards, Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does this happen???

2009-03-17 Thread Robert Nickel
On 2009.03.15 17:00:08 +1100, James Reid wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Can someone please explain why I have a small number of users who > occasionally send message to mylist-boun...@domain.com instead of to the > correct address myl...@domain.com ? > > I suspect that it is to do with the email clien

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does this happen???

2009-03-15 Thread b19141
"James Reid" wrote: >Hi Everyone, >Can someone please explain why I have a small number of users who >occasionally send message to mylist-boun...@domain.com instead of to the >correct address myl...@domain.com ? > >I suspect that it is to do with the email client that they are using >and whether

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why does this happen???

2009-03-14 Thread Terri Oda
James Reid wrote: Can someone please explain why I have a small number of users who occasionally send message to mylist-boun...@domain.com instead of to the correct address myl...@domain.com ? I suspect that it is to do with the email client that they are using and whether they are replying or r

[Mailman-Users] Why does this happen???

2009-03-14 Thread James Reid
Hi Everyone, Can someone please explain why I have a small number of users who occasionally send message to mylist-boun...@domain.com instead of to the correct address myl...@domain.com ? I suspect that it is to do with the email client that they are using and whether they are replying or r

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why host_name and not domain?

2009-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Oliver Glück wrote: > >it is terrible. >And every pages are in English and my English is not good. :-( I'm sorry, but it's much better than my German :( >I can't understand about VIRTUAL_HOSTS and add_virtualhost. I don't think you need to, but see below: >Now, I can reach the listinfo-page

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why host_name and not domain?

2009-02-28 Thread Oliver Glück
ny.com/mailman/listinfo has not to work! It will not be forwarded!) Oh yeah, sorry. ----- Original Message - From: "Mark Sapiro" To: "Oliver Glueck" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Why host_name and not domain? Oliver Gluec

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why host_name and not domain?

2009-02-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Oliver Glueck wrote: >I want to edit the list and create a new list over the >webinterface. >But I can't see the "list admin overview page"! I see no lists! >No 'mailman' and no 'about-dummy'. > >Why I cant see the list? (After I tried to send and deliver emails >over the list.) > >Before I change

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why host_name and not domain?

2009-02-27 Thread Oliver Glueck
I want to edit the list and create a new list over the webinterface. But I can't see the "list admin overview page"! I see no lists! No 'mailman' and no 'about-dummy'. Why I cant see the list? (After I tried to send and deliver emails over the list.) Before I changed the configuration (see botto

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why host_name and not domain?

2009-02-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Oliver Glueck wrote: > >why I get as a subscriber a hostname and not an right email address? Because your Mailman installation is misconfigured. >I think, it is not good to answer with e.g. >"Willkommen auf der Mailingliste %(real_name)s...@%(host_name)s!" >Why host_name??? host_name is not the

[Mailman-Users] Why host_name and not domain?

2009-02-25 Thread Oliver Glueck
Hello, why I get as a subscriber a hostname and not an right email address? I think, it is not good to answer with e.g. "Willkommen auf der Mailingliste %(real_name)s...@%(host_name)s!" Why host_name??? host_name is not the domain! host_name is only the FQDN of the Server, but no domain. This w

Re: [Mailman-Users] why do i keep getting awaiting approval messages ?

2008-05-27 Thread Anant Maringanti
>You have told us much, but you have not told us why the "message >awaiting approval" was issued. In that mail there should be a reason >why the mail was sent to the list moderator(s) for approval, such as > a) posting by a non-member to a member-only list > b) "implicit destination" >c) t

Re: [Mailman-Users] why do i keep getting awaiting approval messages ?

2008-05-27 Thread Barry Finkel
"Anant Maringanti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, in part: >I have looked up the archives and the FAQ but perhaps I dont even know >what I am looking for. I have recently set up a mailing list. I think >I have set up the list for not holding up any member's posting for >admin approval. But each time

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why am I being ignored???

2008-05-24 Thread Brad Knowles
On 5/24/08, Terrence Brannon wrote: I posted this and basically the whole list is having other discussions like I never even posted... I didn't respond because I basically don't have any answers for you. There's the st

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why am I being ignored???

2008-05-24 Thread Hank van Cleef
The esteemed Terrence Brannon has said: > > I posted this > > and basically the whole list is having other discussions like I never > even posted... > Ignored? I may have missed something but the one lively discussion I've

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why am I being ignored???

2008-05-24 Thread Steve Burling
--On May 24, 2008 9:10:25 AM -0400 Terrence Brannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I posted this and basically the whole list is having other discussions like I never even posted... To which I reply: So, let's see. You poste

[Mailman-Users] Why am I being ignored???

2008-05-24 Thread Terrence Brannon
I posted this and basically the whole list is having other discussions like I never even posted... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 8/25/06 8:07 AM, "Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Security for one. Much of the impetus for releasing later versions in > the 2.1.X branch was for that reason. I don't know what, if anything, RedHat is doing about backporting the security changes. For things in general, they are pretty g

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread Dragon
Allan Trick wrote: >At 09:18 AM 8/25/2006, Barry Finkel wrote: > > >I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running > >2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently > >upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? > >Barry, > >I know one reason

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread Dragon
Barry Finkel wrote: > > Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. > >I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running 2.1.5 >(or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently upgrade to >2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? End original m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
At 09:18 AM 8/25/2006, Barry Finkel wrote: >I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running >2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently >upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? Barry, I know one reason we don't upgrade every time

[Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread Barry Finkel
> Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running 2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why can't anyone post to mailing Lists

2006-06-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
The Lafferty wrote: >I want to use our mailing list more like a mail alias, I need it to be open >so anyone can mail to it without seeking approval from the moderatordoes >anyone know how set this up? In the admin interface Privacy options...->Sender filters set generic_nonmember_action to ac

[Mailman-Users] Why can't anyone post to mailing Lists

2006-06-01 Thread The Lafferty
I want to use our mailing list more like a mail alias, I need it to be open so anyone can mail to it without seeking approval from the moderatordoes anyone know how set this up? thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org h

[Mailman-Users] Why mailman still sending email to an in-active mailing list?

2006-04-13 Thread Chan Nan
Thanks a lot for your quick response. It makes sense now. I probably hosted my domain with an ISP (now became jaguarpc) in the past. Somehow I thought I hosted at a friend's server (no longer exists) from home :) Chan Nan wrote: > >Case info: I had a domain with a mailing list (using >mailman)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why mailman still sending email to an in-activemailing list?

2006-04-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
Chan Nan wrote: > >Case info: I had a domain with a mailing list (using >mailman) a few years ago. However, I dropped my >domain (but didn't do anytning with mailman) later on. > I assumed the mailing list will be terminated itself. Was this a hosted domain and Mailman? If so, the hosting provid

[Mailman-Users] Why mailman still sending email to an in-active mailing list?

2006-04-12 Thread Chan Nan
Hello, I had a pretty strange case regarding an old, terminated mailing list yet still sending out emails to members. I searched and googled everywhere but still don't know how to fix it. Case info: I had a domain with a mailing list (using mailman) a few years ago. However, I dropped my domain

Re: [Mailman-Users] why is plain text option (removes MIME/HTML) only available

2006-02-09 Thread Tom Grundy
Thanks for the replies - a better yet subjsect may have been ' how do you apply content filtering on a per-user basis'. Basically we want to allow crusty old non-MIME or non-HTML browsers and clients to still view our nice fancy html emails instead of the mime and html source code. Sounds like

Re: [Mailman-Users] why is plain text option (removes MIME/HTML)onlyavailable for digest?

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: > >If you mean you want to be able to apply per user content filtering >rules, that just isn't feasable within the current Mailman design. Looking more carefully at the subject of this thread, I think maybe you want scrub_nondigest to be applied per user rather than per list as

Re: [Mailman-Users] why is plain text option (removes MIME/HTML) only available for digest?

2006-02-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Tom" == Tom Grundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tom> Hello - we would like to be able to specify plain vs MIME (on Tom> a user-by-user basis) for regular non-digest delivery. Tom> 'option plain' only lets you set the user-by-user option when Tom> digests are on. The plain te

Re: [Mailman-Users] why is plain text option (removes MIME/HTML) onlyavailable for digest?

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tom Grundy wrote: >Hello - we would like to be able to specify plain vs MIME (on a user-by-user >basis) for regular non-digest delivery. 'option plain' only lets you set >the user-by-user option when digests are on. The plain vs MIME digest setting controls whether the digest is sent as one fl

[Mailman-Users] why is plain text option (removes MIME/HTML) only available for digest?

2006-02-08 Thread Tom Grundy
Hello - we would like to be able to specify plain vs MIME (on a user-by-user basis) for regular non-digest delivery. 'option plain' only lets you set the user-by-user option when digests are on. -Tom -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Use

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are footers sent as attachments?

2006-01-30 Thread Carl Zwanzig
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Strictly speaking, this depends on the MUA, too. In the message I'm > replying to Gnus added no less than 16 clickable items, including > everything in the footer (every line except the title "Mailman-Users > mailing list"). It's a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are footers sent as attachments?

2006-01-30 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:41 PM +0900 2006-01-30, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Brad>You can't write your own HTML there, so no "click > Brad> here" type language is going to work. > > Strictly speaking, this depends on the MUA, too. T

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are footers sent as attachments?

2006-01-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> You can't write your own HTML there, so no "click Brad> here" type language is going to work. Strictly speaking, this depends on the MUA, too. In the message I'm replying to Gnus added no less than 16 clickable items, i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are footers sent as attachments?

2006-01-29 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:24 PM -0500 2006-01-29, Jp Possenti wrote: > Why is it that when I set Mailman to apply a footer with some info, Outlook > detects it as an attachment? > Is this yet another problem with just outlook? Outlook and certain other MUAs, yes. > Also does the footer in mailman support

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are footers sent as attachments?

2006-01-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jp Possenti wrote: > >If I decide to do the one that is like this: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >The "command" goes in the subject or body? > >In this case unsubscribe would be in which? Or does it not matter? The '-request' processing processes the Subject: and the first mm_cfg.DEFAULT_MAIL_COMMANDS_M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are footers sent as attachments?

2006-01-29 Thread Jp Possenti
nt: Sunday, January 29, 2006 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are footers sent as attachments? Jp Possenti wrote: >Why is it that when I set Mailman to apply a footer with some info, Outlook >detects it as an attachment? >Is this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are footers sent as attachments?

2006-01-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jp Possenti wrote: >Why is it that when I set Mailman to apply a footer with some info, Outlook >detects it as an attachment? >Is this yet another problem with just outlook? > >Also does the footer in mailman support HTML? Please read the FAQ. A search of the FAQ for footer should turn up the a

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