Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to start mailman due to time travel

2018-07-04 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 07/04/18 15:10, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 7/4/18 11:52 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote: >> This looks like it's failing to acquire a lock file. Investigating, I >> discovered this: > > > There was probably a stale lock due to Mailman not being cleanly > terminated upon reboot. The Operation not permi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to start mailman due to time travel

2018-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/4/18 11:52 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote: > I have mailman-2.1.26 installed on my Gentoo 17.0 application server, > which I just rebooted to update from kernel 4.15.15 to 4.16.13. After > rebooting, mailman would not start, logging the following errors: > > > Jul 04 14:43:58 2018 mailmanctl(157

[Mailman-Users] Unable to start mailman due to time travel

2018-07-04 Thread Phil Stracchino
I have mailman-2.1.26 installed on my Gentoo 17.0 application server, which I just rebooted to update from kernel 4.15.15 to 4.16.13. After rebooting, mailman would not start, logging the following errors: Jul 04 14:43:58 2018 mailmanctl(15743): Traceback (most recent call last): Jul 04 14:43:58

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Lindsay Haisley writes: > On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 14:01 +0100, Roel Wagenaar wrote: > > And maybe you could stop TOP-posting? That's a bit quick on the trigger. I don't recall ever seeing a top-post from "Tanstaafl" before, for one thing, and that moniker has been around for as long as I can reme

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-20 10:08 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 14:01 +0100, Roel Wagenaar wrote: And maybe you could stop TOP-posting? In my humble opinion, any post that's less that a visual page in length is more conveniently read if it's top-posted, especially if it is in reference t

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 14:01 +0100, Roel Wagenaar wrote: > And maybe you could stop TOP-posting? > In my humble opinion, any post that's less that a visual page in length is more conveniently read if it's top-posted, especially if it is in reference to a much longer quoted post. I know it's consid

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Roel Wagenaar
Tanstaafl wrote: > (Sorry for replying to an older thread, I'm going back through older unread > mails) > > Maybe these should be made an official part of mailman's extra tools? > > And maybe updated to work with MM3? > And maybe you could stop TOP-posting? -- Roel Wagenaar, Linux-User #46

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Tanstaafl
(Sorry for replying to an older thread, I'm going back through older unread mails) Maybe these should be made an official part of mailman's extra tools? And maybe updated to work with MM3? On 2013-11-05 2:46 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 13:14 -0600, c cc wrote: Mark, It

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
Mark, Finally, I was able to get "service mailman start" to work, but in www.domain.com/mailman/listinfo only shows the list "mailman", none of my old list are showing up. By the way, SElinux was the culprit, and once it was stopped, I was able to start mailman using: service mailman start. On

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
withlist -l -r fix_url [listname} Okay, the lists are there now after I fixed the url. I will let you know see if it work when I get back to work tomorrow. Once again, thank you so much for your help and time. Charles On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:03 AM, c cc wrote: > Mark, > > Finally, I was ab

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
Mark, Thanks. I will double check all the permission on /var/lib/mailman/lists/ to make sure that they are all the same with the "mailman" list permission since that particular list was working fine before I moved the old lists over. I will send you the log files to your email tomorrow. Once agai

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/05/2013 06:38 PM, c cc wrote: > Mark, > > No luck. > > [root@es1 bin]# ./check_perms -f > directory must be at least 02775: /usr/lib/mailman (fixing) ... > directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/lib/mailman/templates/eu (fixing) The permissions issues you have are with /var/lib/mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
Mark, No luck. [root@es1 bin]# ./check_perms -f directory must be at least 02775: /usr/lib/mailman (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/lib/mailman/mail (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin (fixing) directory permissions must be 02775: /usr/lib/mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
Mark, Yes, we got "we hit a bug" message. Thanks! Charles On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/05/2013 06:18 PM, c cc wrote: > > > > I am not sure this would help; I got this error message in > > /var/log/mailman/error > > > > IOError reading list extension: [Errno 13] P

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/05/2013 06:18 PM, c cc wrote: > > I am not sure this would help; I got this error message in > /var/log/mailman/error > > IOError reading list extension: [Errno 13] Permission denied: > '/var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman/extend.py' > Nov 05 20:16:53 2013 mailmanctl(31641): Site list is missing

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
Mark, I am not sure this would help; I got this error message in /var/log/mailman/error IOError reading list extension: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman/extend.py' Nov 05 20:16:53 2013 mailmanctl(31641): Site list is missing: mailman Thanks, Charles On Tue, Nov 5,

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
Mark, Thanks! "And at that point, where was the lists/mailman/config.pck file?" I assume it was in /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck because I did not move the config file when I moved the old list over. "And to where did you move those losts/LISTNAME/config.pck files." I move the whole

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/05/2013 05:19 PM, c cc wrote: > > Let me clarify this: No, I can't open the old list's listinfo page, but > I can see the list using list_lists command. OK. > When I did the fresh installation and created the "mailman" list before > moving any old lists over, I was able to start mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
Mark, Let me clarify this: No, I can't open the old list's listinfo page, but I can see the list using list_lists command. When I did the fresh installation and created the "mailman" list before moving any old lists over, I was able to start mailman using: service mailman start. As soon I moved

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/05/2013 03:55 PM, c cc wrote: > > Is it possible that the old lists are not compatible? By the way, the > mailman version on the old server is 2..1.9 and the version on the new > server is 2.1.12. Any suggestions and help would be appreciated. Not likely and not if you can open the old lis

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
Mark, Here what I just found out: I removed and reinstalled mailman again and just created a list named mailman--it works fine. But mailman wont' start as soon as I migrated the old lists over to the new server. Is it possible that the old lists are not compatible? By the way, the mailman versio

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/05/2013 11:14 AM, c cc wrote: > > It seems like /etc/init.d/mailman and /etc/rc.d/mailman both are runing > /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, as you can you below: Do you mean /etc/rc.d/init.d/mailman? In RedHat/CentOS, /etc/init.d/ is a symlink to /etc/rc.d/init.d/. > MAILMANHOME=/usr/li

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 13:14 -0600, c cc wrote: > Mark, > > It seems like /etc/init.d/mailman and /etc/rc.d/mailman both are runing > /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, as you can you below: > > MAILMANHOME=/usr/lib/mailman > MAILMANCTL=$MAILMANHOME/bin/mailmanctl > > Here how I moved my lists over

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
Mark, It seems like /etc/init.d/mailman and /etc/rc.d/mailman both are runing /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl, as you can you below: MAILMANHOME=/usr/lib/mailman MAILMANCTL=$MAILMANHOME/bin/mailmanctl Here how I moved my lists over to the new server: 1. I renamed the /usr/lib/mailman to mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/05/2013 10:34 AM, c cc wrote: > > Thanks! I was able to start using /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl > start--without any problem. So 'service mailman start' which runs the script at /etc/init.d/mailman (or /etc/rc.d/init.d/mailman) is running a different mailmanctl. Look at that script and

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-05 Thread c cc
Mark, Thanks! I was able to start using /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start--without any problem. I have only have one mailman instance installed on this server and now, it still does not show all my lists though. Any suggestions. Thanks! Charles On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Mark Sapiro

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/04/2013 11:03 AM, c cc wrote: > > I start Mailman using: service start mailman in CENTOS 6.4. Which is almost certainly starting a different Mailman installation than the one which has your lists. Start mailman by running 'bin/mailmanctl start' from the same bin/ directory in which bin/li

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread c cc
Jim, Thanks! But I already had list mailman there. Charles On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Nov 4, 2013 2:07 PM, "c cc" wrote: > > > > In my log, it shows the following: > > > > Nov 04 12:45:59 2013 mailmanctl(18104): Site list is missing: mailman > > Nov 04 12:45:59

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Nov 4, 2013 2:07 PM, "c cc" wrote: > > In my log, it shows the following: > > Nov 04 12:45:59 2013 mailmanctl(18104): Site list is missing: mailman > Nov 04 12:45:59 2013 (18104) Site list is missing: mailman > > Any idea? $ newlist mailman -Jim P.

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread c cc
In my log, it shows the following: Nov 04 12:45:59 2013 mailmanctl(18104): Site list is missing: mailman Nov 04 12:45:59 2013 (18104) Site list is missing: mailman Any idea? Thanks! On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:04 PM, c cc wrote: > Lindsay, > > Thanks for your suggestions. Yes, the VAR_PREFIX /v

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread c cc
Lindsay, Thanks for your suggestions. Yes, the VAR_PREFIX /var/lib/mailman, which is correct. Charles On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 11:43 -0600, c cc wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just moved our mailman to a new server, but I can't start mailman--I

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread c cc
Adam, I start Mailman using: service start mailman in CENTOS 6.4. Thanks! Charles On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 11:51:32AM -0600, c cc wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Adam McGreggor < > adam-mail...@amyl.org.uk>wrote: > > > On Mon

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 11:43 -0600, c cc wrote: > Hi, > > I just moved our mailman to a new server, but I can't start mailman--I keep > getting the following message: > > Starting mailman: Site list is missing: mailman > > I do have a list named mailman moved over, and have moved over about 30 >

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 11:51:32AM -0600, c cc wrote: > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Adam McGreggor > wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 11:43:55AM -0600, c cc wrote: > > > I just moved our mailman to a new server, but I can't start mailman--I > > keep > > > getting the following message: > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 11:43:55AM -0600, c cc wrote: > I just moved our mailman to a new server, but I can't start mailman--I keep > getting the following message: > > Starting mailman: Site list is missing: mailman > > I do have a list named mailman moved over, and have moved over about 30 > li

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread c cc
Adam, Thanks! list_lists shows all my lists though. Any idea? Charles On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Adam McGreggor wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 11:43:55AM -0600, c cc wrote: > > I just moved our mailman to a new server, but I can't start mailman--I > keep > > getting the following mes

[Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-04 Thread c cc
Hi, I just moved our mailman to a new server, but I can't start mailman--I keep getting the following message: Starting mailman: Site list is missing: mailman I do have a list named mailman moved over, and have moved over about 30 lists. Does anyone have any idea? Thanks! Charles -