Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-29 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 2/28/2016 11:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 02/28/2016 10:51 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/helo_client_exceptions check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender_checks, reject_invalid_hostname, [...] This is almost certainly your pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > This is almost certainly your problem. All those [RBL] checks take > time, especially if DNS is slow. Also, several of the checks (RBL and otherwise) seem to be in there repeatedly. ISTR that Postfix does the checks in the order specified, so they might be done multiple t

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > This is almost certainly your problem. All those [RBL] checks take > time, especially if DNS is slow. Also, several of the checks (RBL and otherwise) seem to be in there repeatedly. ISTR that Postfix does the checks in the order specified, so they might be done multiple t

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/29/2016 02:19 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 10:51 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> On 02/29/2016 01:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> I think we can fix your issue fairly simply. >>> >>> Please, as I asked in my reply at >>>

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/28/2016 11:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Also, while you're at it I suggest adding > > VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes > VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes > VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 > > for more reliable bounce processing. One more thing. If you add the above to mm_cfg.py, you also need

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/28/2016 10:51 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 02/29/2016 01:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I think we can fix your issue fairly simply. >> >> Please, as I asked in my reply at >> , >> post the output from 'postconf -n' and t

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/29/2016 01:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I think we can fix your issue fairly simply. > > Please, as I asked in my reply at > , > post the output from 'postconf -n' and the contents of mm_cfg.py. Sorry, I got mixed up

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/28/2016 10:31 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> By the way, when did you switch to Mailman? Did you start >> experiencing this problem immediately when you did? > > > about 6 months ago and the problem was concurrent absolutely with the > initia

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/28/2016 02:54 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > Evidently... So what might be a fix? Because whatever it is it doesn't > affect other mail. :( > > Feb 28 17:17:18 2016 (29233) > smtp to > hangout for 10 recips, completed in 69.241 seconds > Feb 28 17:18:27 2016 (29233) <56d30c67.7070...@mrbrk

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/28/2016 05:46 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 02:26 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> >>> If there are more than one or two files in the out/ queue, and if the >>> smtp log has successive entries of the form >> >> there are 38 files in there at pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/28/2016 02:26 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> If there are more than one or two files in the out/ queue, and if the >> smtp log has successive entries of the form > > there are 38 files in there at preseent > -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 4441 Feb 2

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 07:29 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> No, I mean I send messages and they don't show up for a half hour even >> in the postfix logs > > > Assuming Mailman 2.1.x, the usual cause of this is a backlogged 'out' > queue in Mailman. Look at M

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Even with full VERP, Mailman should be able to deliver tens of messages > per second to Postfix. If it is slower than that, there is a n issue > with delivery. Once we have more info on whether the queue is backlogged > and what the delivery rate is, we can say more. > Y

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Even with full VERP, Mailman should be able to deliver tens of messages > per second to Postfix. If it is slower than that, there is a n issue > with delivery. Once we have more info on whether the queue is backlogged > and what the delivery rate is, we can say more. > Y

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > When I ran it with majordomo their was no problem. How was majordomo submitting email to postfix, and how is mailman now submitting email to postix? -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/28/2016 07:29 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > No, I mean I send messages and they don't show up for a half hour even > in the postfix logs Assuming Mailman 2.1.x, the usual cause of this is a backlogged 'out' queue in Mailman. Look at Mailman's 'smtp' log, and look at how many files are in

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/28/2016 03:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > How do I speed up mailman so that it works instantaneously and stops > > storing messages. > > If you mean "Mailman is administratively holding messages until > released by a moderator," you need to tell us more about your current > configur

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/28/2016 03:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If there's a performance > problem, almost surely either your ISP is throttling you, or your MTA > is misconfigured. Again, we need to know more about how Mailman is > installed, what you're trying to do, and what the other software > involved i

[Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ruben Safir writes: > How do I speed up mailman so that it works instantaneously and stops > storing messages. If you mean "Mailman is administratively holding messages until released by a moderator," you need to tell us more about your current configuration and needs. There are several reason

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Ruben Safir
On 02/28/2016 03:15 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote: > It's a factor of postfix than it is for mailman. However you could reduce > the level of moderation so things can pass scrutiny as fast on the mailman > side. > everything directly mailed through postfix goes straight through without any delay. So I'

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Seun Ojedeji
It's a factor of postfix than it is for mailman. However you could reduce the level of moderation so things can pass scrutiny as fast on the mailman side. Cheers! Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 28 Feb 2016 07:58, "Ruben Safir" wrote: > Hello > > How do I speed up mailman

[Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

2016-02-27 Thread Ruben Safir
Hello How do I speed up mailman so that it works instantaneously and stops storing messages. Ruben -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT