Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Anil Jangity wrote: >Actually, this is a internal SmartHost that doesn't require SMTP auth. >I think a while back I had configured Mailman with --with-mailhost=localhost, >a bunch of pages also showed "localhost" as the email domain for some of the >list details. That's not what I wanted. The

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-03-08 Thread Anil Jangity
Actually, this is a internal SmartHost that doesn't require SMTP auth. I think a while back I had configured Mailman with --with-mailhost=localhost, a bunch of pages also showed "localhost" as the email domain for some of the list details. That's not what I wanted. I assume there won't be issues

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Anil Jangity wrote: > >Mailman receives the mail and then posts to the same local MTA on the host >which sends it out to Smart host. >I am not sure we can't just have mailman send directly to the smarthost? > >What are the implications (on the web site as well as how Mailman functions) >if I chan

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-03-08 Thread Anil Jangity
Hi Mark, Thanks. We're getting better performance now once we added this to our sendmail .mc file: FEATURE(`nocanonify') I wanted to see if we can do further improvements. Right now our email flow is like this for lists: Internet -> ServerA:25 (/etc/aliases mailman) -> ServerA -> SmartHostA

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-02-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Anil Jangity wrote: > >This sendmail server is setup to relay the mail to smarthost. When I inject a >test mail on port 25 with RCPT and FROM to be a made up junk domain, the email >is still delivered *immediately* to the smarthost, there is no resolver issues. > >If sendmail was really doing DNS

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-02-22 Thread Anil Jangity
Mark, thanks for the very detailed info below. I am still stuck on this. This sendmail server is setup to relay the mail to smarthost. When I inject a test mail on port 25 with RCPT and FROM to be a made up junk domain, the email is still delivered *immediately* to the smarthost, there is no res

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-02-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Anil Jangity wrote: >Does mailman actually (if it works) send to 15 recipients at a time - per SMTP >session? Mailman's use of the term session is not consistent with the RFCs. What Mailman calls SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION is actually in RFC 821, 2821, 5321 terms, max transactions per ses

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-02-01 Thread Anil Jangity
Yes. What exactly does that option do/mean? Does mailman actually (if it works) send to 15 recipients at a time - per SMTP session? On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > On 2/1/2012 3:57 PM, Anil Jangity wrote: > >> I have these set in mm_cfg.py: >> >> SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 15 >> SMTP_

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-02-01 Thread Anil Jangity
Actually, looking at the code... it seems it might be because I have these set for some of the lists. VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = 1 OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = 1 Thanks On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Anil Jangity wrote: > Yes. > What exactly does that option do/mean? > Does mailman ac

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-02-01 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 2/1/2012 3:57 PM, Anil Jangity wrote: I have these set in mm_cfg.py: SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 15 SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 50 It seems Qrunner isn't honoring those? Did you restart the qrunners after changing those settings? z! -- Mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-02-01 Thread Anil Jangity
It seems it is doing about 6000 users in 35 minutes. The problem seems to be that sendmail is doing one email connection per recipient. I have these set in mm_cfg.py: SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 15 SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 50 It seems Qrunner isn't honoring those? > > Look at Mailman's 'smt

Re: [Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Anil Jangity wrote: >We just moved a very old mailman infrastructure mailman to Solaris and >sendmail. >It seems, when a message is posted, the "out" directory doesn't seem to clear >out fast enough. > > 1K archive > 1K bounces > 1K commands > 1K in > 1K news > 403K out >

[Mailman-Users] slow "out" queue

2012-01-19 Thread Anil Jangity
We just moved a very old mailman infrastructure mailman to Solaris and sendmail. It seems, when a message is posted, the "out" directory doesn't seem to clear out fast enough. 1K archive 1K bounces 1K commands 1K in 1K news 403K out 1K retry 1K shunt 1K