On 5/30/08 3:28 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Yeah, somebody actually said that, but they really meant the
Return-Path. Changing Message-ID on regular posts would violate RFC
2822. Message-ID ids the content, not the medium, and is an author
header: intermediate senders l
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Yeah, somebody actually said that, but they really meant the
Return-Path. Changing Message-ID on regular posts would violate RFC
2822. Message-ID ids the content, not the medium, and is an author
header: intermediate senders like Mailman must not touch it.
IIRC, wh
On May 30, 2008, at 11:00 AM, David Newman wrote:
On 5/30/08 4:35 AM, Larry Stone wrote:
On 5/29/08 11:37 PM, Jim Popovitch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:18 AM, David Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
Hmmm. I must be missing something, as the system is still
assoc
David Newman writes:
> Initially I thought the changes I made to mailman would result in a
> unique Message-ID per recipient, but this does not appear to be the case.
Yeah, somebody actually said that, but they really meant the
Return-Path. Changing Message-ID on regular posts would violate R
David Newman wrote:
Given the above, is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" the subscriber that's complaining?
Or is it just a coincidence that that AOL user got listed first?
Since you're now sending just one message for each recipient, you will get
unique queue ids assigned by your MTA for each and every m
On 5/30/08 8:40 AM, Larry Stone wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008, David Newman wrote:
When you then get the AOL TOS e-mail, you can figure out who the list
recipient was as while AOL redacts the AOL recipient, they don't touch the
Return-Path.
I wish this were true, but it appears AOL gets to the Re
On Fri, 30 May 2008, David Newman wrote:
> > When you then get the AOL TOS e-mail, you can figure out who the list
> > recipient was as while AOL redacts the AOL recipient, they don't touch the
> > Return-Path.
>
> I wish this were true, but it appears AOL gets to the Return-Path too:
>
> Return-P
On 5/30/08 4:35 AM, Larry Stone wrote:
On 5/29/08 11:37 PM, Jim Popovitch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:18 AM, David Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hmmm. I must be missing something, as the system is still associating each
Message-ID with all 250 list subscribers.
On 5/29/08 11:37 PM, Jim Popovitch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:18 AM, David Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Hmmm. I must be missing something, as the system is still associating each
>> Message-ID with all 250 list subscribers.
>
> VERP has nothing to do with M
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:18 AM, David Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm. I must be missing something, as the system is still associating each
> Message-ID with all 250 list subscribers.
VERP has nothing to do with Message-ID, and everything to do with
Return-Path and Sender: ;-)
-Jim P
On 5/29/08 1:46 PM, Larry Stone wrote:
On Thu, 29 May 2008, David Newman wrote:
Possibly this is some VERP config error on my part. I added the
following to mm_cfg.py and rebooted:
VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes
VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes
VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = Yes
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS
On Thu, 29 May 2008, David Newman wrote:
> Possibly this is some VERP config error on my part. I added the
> following to mm_cfg.py and rebooted:
>
> VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes
> VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes
> VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = Yes
> VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes
> VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVA
It is between the first and second choices you listed. Since it
isn't there, I would guess you need to stop and restart Mailman so
the configuration file is reprocessed.
Dave
At 03:02 PM 5/29/2008, David Newman wrote:
On 5/29/08 12:09 PM, David Andrews wrote:
Did you go back to the list co
On 5/29/08 12:09 PM, David Andrews wrote:
Did you go back to the list configuration and turn on personalization?
Er, no, I haven't. Where do I set that in the Web UI?
thanks
dn
DA: It is under Nondigest Options.
Sorry for being dense, but where?
These are the only choices I see under n
At 01:53 PM 5/29/2008, David Newman wrote:
On 5/29/08 11:40 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
David Newman wrote:
OK, I've enabled VERP but I'm no closer to isolating who's
complaining in AOL-land.
Possibly this is some VERP config error on my part. I added the
following to mm_cfg.py and rebooted:
David Newman wrote:
On 5/29/08 11:40 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
David Newman wrote:
OK, I've enabled VERP but I'm no closer to isolating who's
complaining in AOL-land.
Possibly this is some VERP config error on my part. I added the
following to mm_cfg.py and rebooted:
VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS
On 5/29/08 11:40 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
David Newman wrote:
OK, I've enabled VERP but I'm no closer to isolating who's complaining
in AOL-land.
Possibly this is some VERP config error on my part. I added the
following to mm_cfg.py and rebooted:
VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes
VERP_PERSONALI
David Newman wrote:
OK, I've enabled VERP but I'm no closer to isolating who's complaining
in AOL-land.
Possibly this is some VERP config error on my part. I added the
following to mm_cfg.py and rebooted:
VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes
VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes
VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVA
On 5/28/08 8:43 PM, Larry Stone wrote:
On 5/28/08 9:26 PM, David Newman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another is to enable VERP for your outgoing messages, this allows
you to track the message ID to the individual user.
That sounds very promising, thanks. Trying it now...
I have all my lists V
On 5/28/08 9:26 PM, David Newman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Another is to enable VERP for your outgoing messages, this allows
>> you to track the message ID to the individual user.
>
> That sounds very promising, thanks. Trying it now...
I have all my lists VERPed for just that reason. Once
On 5/28/08 7:09 PM, Dave Dewey wrote:
Quoting David Newman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
One or more AOL subscribers is reporting posts to one of our mailing
lists as spam. Every time there's a post to this list, both we and our
upstream provider get a feedback report from AOL. This report provides
th
Quoting David Newman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> One or more AOL subscribers is reporting posts to one of our mailing
> lists as spam. Every time there's a post to this list, both we and our
> upstream provider get a feedback report from AOL. This report provides
> the message-ID for the offending e
One or more AOL subscribers is reporting posts to one of our mailing
lists as spam. Every time there's a post to this list, both we and our
upstream provider get a feedback report from AOL. This report provides
the message-ID for the offending email, but not the recipient's address.
AOL claims
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