Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-03 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 6/3/2011 9:10 AM, Khalil Abbas wrote: I don't want to use the throttling patch as it's not stable and not tested before .. so I have 2 ways, either rebooting the servers like I'm doing now, or splitting the lists into smaller ones and send to bunch of small lists every our .. what do u think

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-03 Thread Khalil Abbas
r splitting the lists into smaller ones and send to bunch of small lists every our .. what do u think? -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 5:44 PM To: Khalil Abbas Cc: Geoff Shang ; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers On

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-03 Thread Steff Watkins
> The servers are all vps'es with 256 ram.. I'm assuming you meant 256 Megs RAM.. to which I say "Luxury" :) > and the lists are as big as 33,000 > subscribers per list, 3 lists per vps.. it's one big mailing > list for a TV station and newspaper.. only one message (newsletter) is sent >

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-03 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 6/3/2011 4:56 AM, Khalil Abbas wrote: The servers are all vps'es with 256 ram.. vps? If you mean they're vertual servers, then at least give them more RAM! (Have you watched the processes with top while running? Where are the -actual- bottlenecks?) my question is, is this a good solutio

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/3/11 4:56 AM, Khalil Abbas wrote: > > SMTP_MAX_RCPTS to only 5 in mailman resulted in a huge number of > messages generated by mailman that halts the servers, that's why I every > hour stop mailman then stop postfix then reboot the servers to free up > the memory and continue distributing th

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-03 Thread Khalil Abbas
hon.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers On Tue, 31 May 2011, Khalil Abbas wrote: I have several vps servers with very limited resources running several large mailman lists, n these servers keep stopping from responding n sometimes mailq shows several errors like: too many open files

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-01 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 6/1/2011 3:31 AM, Mollatt Ntini wrote: I think Ralf is right. Lower the process limit, else your load will stay on high and you may lose or end up having duplicated messages. Maybe other problems too. Defintely. If you don't have the resources for instant use, you need to get them or use

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-01 Thread Geoff Shang
On Tue, 31 May 2011, Khalil Abbas wrote: I have several vps servers with very limited resources running several large mailman lists, n these servers keep stopping from responding n sometimes mailq shows several errors like: too many open files in the system and not enough resourses ... etc.

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-01 Thread Mollatt Ntini
On 6/1/2011 10:24 AM, Khalil Abbas wrote: m.. what if I did this: create small lists instead of large ones, then schedule the same message to be sent every hour to a different list ? this way the servers will not halt.. what do u think? I think Ralf is right. Lower the process limit,

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-01 Thread Khalil Abbas
: Khalil Abbas Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers On 5/31/2011 3:39 PM, Khalil Abbas wrote: well thanks for the tip, but I'm sorry I didn't get it .. is it a good thing to stop mailman and postfix and reboot the servers every hour to free up recourses n

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-06-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Khalil Abbas : > hi, > > I have several vps servers with very limited resources running several large > mailman lists, n these servers keep stopping from responding n sometimes > mailq shows several errors like: too many open files in the system and not > enough resourses ... etc. > > so ev

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/31/2011 3:39 PM, Khalil Abbas wrote: > well thanks for the tip, but I'm sorry I didn't get it .. is it a good > thing to stop mailman and postfix and reboot the servers every hour to > free up recourses n start over? "You can't fit ten pounds of mud in a five pound sack." I.e., you are trying

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-05-31 Thread Khalil Abbas
c: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers On 5/31/2011 11:14 AM, Khalil Abbas wrote: is that a good thing I’m doing? for I can’t afford to upgrade the hardware, is there a better solution? is there any side effects?? IIRC, it was Dolly Parton, a well known US count

[Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-05-31 Thread Khalil Abbas
hi, I have several vps servers with very limited resources running several large mailman lists, n these servers keep stopping from responding n sometimes mailq shows several errors like: too many open files in the system and not enough resourses ... etc. so every hour I do the following: mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/31/2011 11:14 AM, Khalil Abbas wrote: > > is that a good thing I’m doing? for I can’t afford to upgrade the hardware, > is there a better solution? is there any side effects?? IIRC, it was Dolly Parton, a well known US country western singer who, following a 'wardrobe failure' (pre Janet J

[Mailman-Users] reboot servers

2011-05-31 Thread Khalil Abbas
hi, I have several vps servers with very limited resources running several large mailman lists, n these servers keep stopping from responding n sometimes mailq shows several errors like: too many open files in the system and not enough resourses ... etc. so every hour I do the following: mai