[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.x vulnerabilities found

2025-04-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/29/25 06:31, Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users wrote: Just received word about those three: https://github.com/0NYX-MY7H/CVE-2025-43921 -- wasn't able to reproduce on 2.1.39 https://github.com/0NYX-MY7H/CVE-2025-43920 -- wasn't able to reproduce on 2.1.39, due to not using an *_EXTERNAL_A

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.x vulnerabilities found

2025-04-29 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 9:32 AM Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users < mailman-users@python.org> wrote: > Just received word about those three: > > https://github.com/0NYX-MY7H/CVE-2025-43921 > -- wasn't able to reproduce on 2.1.39 > Same for me. All this "exploit" gets me is the list creation pag

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman won't start - no Defaults module

2025-03-10 Thread Jim Dory
Sorry - I was able to fix this when I found this page: https://support.cpanel.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/29645975750423-Tier-Current-126-0-2-has-broken-mailman saying: sys.path.append('/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman') was missing in mm_cfg.py , it only had "from Defaults import *

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman-loop sending mail to undesirable address

2025-02-25 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Macs R We via Mailman-Users writes: > I believe I have solved the nondelivery problem by increasing the > munging isolation factor from "rewrite header" to "enclose in > wrapper." I'm glad you're using the wrapper option: I conceived and implemented that myself. As long as your DKIM settings

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman-loop sending mail to undesirable address

2025-02-24 Thread Macs R We via Mailman-Users
I bopped around in /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman today. I grepped for the string "unifiedlayer" and found it in only one file -- an archived or template (not live) copy of the mail archives HTML page header. I verified that the live page had the proper contents in it. I gave up the hunt as

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 Issues With Processing Email

2024-09-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/30/24 12:00, chris.puchalski--- via Mailman-Users wrote: I have an issue with mailman v2 where messages are coming in to the service but not coming out. The error logs report: Aug 30 18:47:26 2024 (9118) send_digests() failed: maximum recursion depth exceeded and an occasional: Failed t

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman subscribe confirmation

2024-07-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/5/24 09:45, Bill Cole wrote: One thing to check is that URL. If your webserver always redirects http to https but Mailman thinks its URL starts with http:// you will have problems like this. The solution is switch Mailman to use the https URL. And to do that, set DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN =

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman subscribe confirmation

2024-07-05 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-07-05 at 11:59:54 UTC-0400 (Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:59:54 +) John is rumored to have said: Hello, We've encountered a weird issue with mailman 2. We're using mailman 2.1.39, running on a straight RHEL 9 server. When someone subscribes to a mailing list, they receive an email that sa

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman httpd location question

2024-03-10 Thread Mark
Hi Odhiambo, thanks for the feedback! However the OpenBSD tutorial from quernus is pretty outdated. (syntax errors for both smtpd.conf and httpd.conf) Actually all I wanted to do is; To combining and make both requests work; 1- /location listinfo and 2- /location listinfo/* (the wildcard here is

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman httpd location question

2024-03-09 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 6:18 PM Mark wrote: > Hi, > > Under OpenBSD's httpd, my mailman setup gives an HTTP 404 error when > 'mysite.com/listinfo' is > typed, however 'mysite.com/listinfo/' works. > > In order to *solve* this issue, I added 2 different locations pointing to > the same cgi script,

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman httpd location question

2024-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/8/24 11:17 PM, Mark wrote: Under OpenBSD's httpd, my mailman setup gives an HTTP 404 error when 'mysite.com/listinfo' is typed, however 'mysite.com/listinfo/' works. Caveat: I know nothing about configuring OpenBSD's httpd. In order to *solve* this issue, I added 2 different locations

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 3 Issue - Unable to Authenticate with Mailman Core REST API

2023-11-27 Thread Patricia Traore
My bad, yes I meant Postorius. I did restart the configuration following Odhiambo's guide and it worked like a charm. For now, I keep my head up. Thanks Marks. Patricia T. Flexing codes with https://maniflexa.com/services/uganda-web-design-company/. -

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 3 Issue - Unable to Authenticate with Mailman Core REST API

2023-11-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/26/23 07:45, Patricia Traore wrote: Description of the issue: → Mailman core REST API Configuration: in the Django settings.py file, I have set the MAILMAN_REST_API_URL to the correct URL of the Core's REST API server (http://localhost:8001/). Additionally, I have specified the MAILMAN_

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 237, Issue 2

2023-11-05 Thread Jeremy
Dig around in their control panel. There should be cron jobs and the ability to enable ssh per "SFTP User". Lots of ads and upsells are in their panel now which hadn't been there before so be careful what you click. >Ugh.  Dream Host does not give me cron job / command line access. I'll >t

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 3 moderator login page as mailman 2.1 one

2023-09-11 Thread victoriaemmy68
Login into Mailman with your username and password. Click Sign In to continue. The Mailing list page will display. https://slopegameonline.io -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 3 moderator login page as mailman 2.1 one

2023-09-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > First the moderator needs to sign up for an account in the web UI > at a URL like https://example.com/accounts/signup/. Then when > logged in, the moderator can visit a URL like > https://example.com/mailman3/lists/ to handle requests. For most people it should just work

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 3 moderator login page as mailman 2.1 one

2023-09-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 9/5/23 11:21, aferre...@ffyb.uba.ar wrote: Hi, we have recently migrated from mailman 2.1 to mailman 3. In mailman 2.1 moderators received an email with a web link asking for list´s moderator password. I don´t find and i don´t know if this feature is available on mailman 3. If this option is

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/6/23 10:26 AM, Charles Buckley wrote: In hindsight, I think this problem was more to do with the fact that I run three lists on this server, two of which have the same list admin password, one of which doesn't. If the developer team were thinking too pointy-headedly while developing it,

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-06 Thread Charles Buckley
Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2023 19:13 To: Richard Damon Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists Anyway, it would be easy to check if Charles has access to mm_cfg.py. (I don't think there's anything in co

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Richard Damon writes: > One configuration error that I remember being able to cause this > sort of issue is if the list is configured with a http:// address, > but the server automatically forwards to https:// then it can lose > the data for the submission. Interesting idea. But I don't thin

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-06 Thread Richard Damon
elivered and out of the way. Watch it probably be in some DB for which there was never any compelling need. Ch. -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2023 22:39 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin chan

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
cracy to grind, and still get done what I need to do. I'm happy to do testing to help reproduce the problem, of course. Thanks for all your assistance. Ch. -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2023 05:27 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Actually, the first 2.1 release was in December, 2002. See > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/7%20Mailman%20history You would You have to admit the early 2.1 release history is extremely confusing. I'm pretty sure I chose the tag that was exactly "2.1". ---

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/5/23 7:51 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: Heck, if I knew where the footer data was stored, I'd be happy to go in and edit the file by hand, the web page be damned. I just want to get this delivered and out of the way. Watch it probably be in some DB for which there was never any compelling

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
man-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists On 7/5/2023 12:54 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: > My server is one of those shared servers, to which I do not have shell > access. Mailman would have to be reinstalled by the sysadm

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
be damned. I just want to get this delivered and out of the way. Watch it probably be in some DB for which there was never any compelling need. Ch. -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2023 22:39 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Charles Buckley writes: > > I saw a report of this behaviour on this mailing list from the year > > 2000. > If you have an URL for this post, or a timestamp, or even a precise > date, it might be helpful. I can't find it. It's https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 7/5/2023 12:54 PM, Charles Buckley wrote: My server is one of those shared servers, to which I do not have shell access. Mailman would have to be reinstalled by the sysadmins -- I can't do it. I have involved them, but they're still coming up to speed. That in itself is a trifle worrying-- a

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/5/23 1:27 AM, Charles Buckley wrote: I experimented with this a bit, and found that I could eliminate the footer on my public (browsable) list on the same server. So I tried converting my other private (non-browsable) list to be browsable, at which point I could eliminate the footer, and

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Charles Buckley
Hello, Thanks for answering. If the first private list I could successfully change by making it non-private also behaved as the 'recalcitrant list' before I did so, then I would suggest that it's a mailman issue. My server is one of those shared servers, to which I do not have shell access

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

2023-07-05 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 7/5/2023 1:27 AM, Charles Buckley wrote: Any advice would be appreciated. My first advice would be to upgrade to the current 2.1 mailman (.39?) and try it again; 2.15 is -really- old and this behavior may be due to a bug that's been fixed. z!

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman 2.1.30 config

2023-02-19 Thread Thomas Coradeschi via Mailman-Users
> On 18 Feb 2023, at 10:17 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > > On 2/18/23 8:53 AM, Thomas Coradeschi via Mailman-Users wrote: >> Yes, I know a little behind in version updates. Any rate, I am trying to at >> least slow down the bots which are hammering our subscribe pages. >> >> The challenge (and i

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman 2.1.30 config

2023-02-18 Thread Odhiambo Washington
I was looking for the official HOWTO/FAQ, but it evades me. However, this link has all the details: https://www.ralfj.de/blog/2018/06/10/mailman-subscription-spam-continued.html But, why not just migrate to MM3 now instead of still staying at MM2? Company policy??? On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 4:56 P

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman 2.1.30 config

2023-02-18 Thread Richard Damon
On 2/18/23 8:53 AM, Thomas Coradeschi via Mailman-Users wrote: Yes, I know a little behind in version updates. Any rate, I am trying to at least slow down the bots which are hammering our subscribe pages. The challenge (and it’s all me) is in getting baby steps to work. I am looking to start w

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman not sending email to all the members of mailing list

2022-11-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/24/22 22:09, Ninad via Mailman-Users wrote: Myself Ninad and we are using mailman 2.1.29 from long time. From last few days, I have observed a strange behavior in mailman. mailman not sending email to all the members of mailing list and the mail is getting posted to random members of th

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman user problem

2022-03-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/22/22 02:25, Dennis Putnam wrote: I am still struggling with this. The first question is did you see https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/message/HW45AWBEKJFZKCPWJYKVSXLFJU3SKZPM/ and is the issue with fetchmail getting the mail from gmail.com, or does fetchmai

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman user problem

2022-03-22 Thread Dennis Putnam
I am still struggling with this. I tried to add a shell for mailman in /etc/passwd. I am now able to su to mailman but I'm not sure that is the way it is supposed to be. I am doing this so I can manually run 'fetchmail' with the -v option. However, I now get a permissions error when fetchmail t

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman user problem (Dennis Putnam)

2022-03-20 Thread Gary R. Schmidt
> I am feeding mailman using fetchmail from gmail.com Have you done whatever changes need to be made to your "fetchmail" settings to enable OAUTH2 authentication for your gmail login? Google disabled third-party application access on March 11th, and requires access to be using OAUTH2 or 2FA n

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman data backup

2022-01-25 Thread dmitri maziuk
On 2022-01-25 5:27 PM, Steven Jones wrote: Hi, Also the way I understand how MTAs work is postfix or whatever you are using should hold the email if Mailman is offline while you are backing up? Once mailman is backup postfix should deliver? If the MDA returns a temporary failure and the me

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman data backup

2022-01-25 Thread Steven Jones
January 2022 8:48 am To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman data backup On 1/24/22 01:26, kukyayuni--- via Mailman-Users wrote: > Hi > > Please tell me about Mailman backup. > We want to back up our mailing list configuration data, archives, etc. > witho

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman data backup

2022-01-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/24/22 01:26, kukyayuni--- via Mailman-Users wrote: Hi Please tell me about Mailman backup. We want to back up our mailing list configuration data, archives, etc. without stopping the Mailman service. Can you please tell us how to do this? I'm assuming this is a Mailman 2.1 question sinc

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.38 security release

2021-11-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
I am pleased to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.38. This is a security release. It fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1952384 CVE-2021-44227. This could allow a list moderator or member to carry out a CSRF attack against the list's admin page. For those who just want a patch fo

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 security release

2021-11-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/12/21 4:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Mailman 2.1.36 had a serious bug. Thanks to Joel Lord for finding and reporting it. I have just released Mailman 2.1.37 to fix that issue. It is reported at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1950833 and is fixed at https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ma

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 security release

2021-11-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mailman 2.1.36 had a serious bug. Thanks to Joel Lord for finding and reporting it. I have just released Mailman 2.1.37 to fix that issue. It is reported at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1950833 and is fixed at https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/revision/1878

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman in two servers

2021-11-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/1/21 11:33 AM, Ivan Tejeiro Izquierdo wrote: Hi, Is it possible to run mailman on 2 servers at the same time? What directories should be shared between both servers and how to configure the mm_cfg.py? See the FAQ article at https://wiki.list.org/x/4030621 -- Mark Sapiro The hi

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 security release

2021-10-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/20/21 11:43 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 10/19/21 6:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Mailman 2.1.35 can be downloaded from https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/ https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/ There is an issue with my upload to gnu.org. Mailman 2.1.35 is

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 security release

2021-10-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/19/21 6:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Mailman 2.1.35 can be downloaded from https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/ https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/ There is an issue with my upload to gnu.org. Mailman 2.1.35 is not there yet. I am trying to resolve th

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 security release

2021-10-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
I am pleased to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.35. This is a security and minor bug fix release. See the attached README.txt for details. For those who just want a patch for the security issues, see . The patch is al

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman + postfix automatically adding aliases

2021-08-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/30/21 2:02 PM, Bruce Johnson via Mailman-Users wrote: I'm setting up a new CentOS8 mailman server to take over from our ancient existing one, and have run into some issues trying to get it working. I installed mailman from source, following the directions here: https://wiki.list.org/DOC/H

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman + postfix automatically adding aliases

2021-08-30 Thread Mark Dale via Mailman-Users
Original Message From: Bruce Johnson via Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users@python.org] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021, 21:02 UTC To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + postfix automatically adding aliases > But when I do this I get the following. Am

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman + postfix automatically adding aliases

2021-08-30 Thread Bruce Johnson via Mailman-Users
On Aug 30, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Bruce Johnson via Mailman-Users mailto:mailman-users@python.org>> wrote: I'm setting up a new CentOS8 mailman server to take over from our ancient existing one, and have run into some issues trying to get it working. I installed mailman from source, following the

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman instance suddenly stopped working

2021-08-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/11/21 9:27 AM, Kevin Bowen wrote: > > I've restarted mailman and sendmail, and don't see any obvious problems. No > configurations have changed recently aside from deleting some lists. I > haven't worked on this in quite some time, can anyone point me to some > emergency troubleshooting ideas

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman held pck messages problem errors

2021-06-09 Thread Ivan Tejeiro Izquierdo
Thanks Mark, I do it how you say. All ok. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http:/

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman held pck messages problem errors

2021-06-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/9/21 7:35 AM, Ivan Tejeiro Izquierdo wrote: Hi, I deleted a four pck files in /var/lib/mailman/data (heldmsg-mailman-x.pcki) n redhat server where the pck held messages are stored and now, I received this messages form mailman ... regular_text: cmdline:/usr/bin/python /usr/lib

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 settings to minimise bounces

2021-05-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/9/21 12:53 PM, jonathan.mailing.li...@gmail.com wrote: > > Just on the topic of Digest emails, I got this bounce today. Is it because of > the From: and To: fields or a more fundamental problem? > > Action: failed > Status: 4.0.0 > Remote-MTA: dns; eu-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com > Diagnosti

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 settings to minimise bounces

2021-05-09 Thread Jonathan M
jonathan.mailing.lists@gmail.com wrote: > Just on the topic of Digest emails, I got this bounce today. Is it because of > the From: and To: fields or a more fundamental problem? I realise now that every email (regular and digest) on my lists is currently sent From: and To: email addresses on the

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 settings to minimise bounces

2021-05-09 Thread jonathan . mailing . lists
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Jon Baron writes: > > > > Prevented the use of digest on the list. I noticed that a large > > proportion of the bounces came from members who had chosen the digest > > format. I suspect that this had to do with the MIME encoding. > > I don't think that's likely, alth

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 settings to minimise bounces

2021-05-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Thanks for the comments, Jon. Since this is not specific to solving a current problem, I'm pruning all the personal addresses. Jon Baron writes: > I had this problem very badly after moving our server to the cloud > (Linode), but not with this particular error message. At the beginning, > mos

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 settings to minimise bounces

2021-05-09 Thread Jon Baron
On 05/08/21 22:53, jonathan.mailing.li...@gmail.com wrote: > I've had quite a lot of bounces recently. This seems largely to have been > because my hosting company was having difficulty sending to Outlook (and > therefore maybe Microsoft servers generally). But I've been taking more > interest in t

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 settings to minimise bounces

2021-05-09 Thread jonathan.mailing.lists
> From: Mark Sapiro > > Presumably to address the first complaint. Whether you want to munge the > From: unconditionally is up to you. As I said, recent Mailman 2.1 has a > feature that will enable you to do this more selectively, although I > don't really think it should be the mailing list's re

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 settings to minimise bounces

2021-05-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/8/21 2:53 PM, jonathan.mailing.li...@gmail.com wrote: > > These have included "Rejected by header based Anti-Spoofing policy" (an > organisation using Mimecast recognising its own email address in the From: > header), Recent Mailman 2.1 (>=2.1.30) has a feature to specify via address or reg

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 - notifications not being properly sent to list owner

2021-04-07 Thread David Nicol
Mark Thank-you. A small edit, and now its working David -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Ma

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 - notifications not being properly sent to list owner

2021-04-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/7/21 3:00 AM, David Nicol wrote: > Mark > > Apr 5 22:12:05 ip-172-26-1-182 postfix/smtp[9473]: 6D0973EB91: > to=testmail-ow...@lists.xxx.org.uk, > relay=email-smtp.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com[x.x.x.x]:587, delay=0.25, > delays=0/0.03/0.11/0.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok > 010b0178a417c95

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 - notifications not being properly sent to list owner

2021-04-07 Thread David Nicol
And your other questions: > Are there a set of mailman aliases in /etc/aliases No, that file looks like I have never touched it. It contains # See man 5 aliases for format postmaster:root I do have mailman aliases in /usr/lib/mailman/data/aliases # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Sat

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 - notifications not being properly sent to list owner

2021-04-07 Thread David Nicol
Mark Apr 5 22:12:05 ip-172-26-1-182 postfix/smtp[9473]: 6D0973EB91: to=testmail-ow...@lists.xxx.org.uk, relay=email-smtp.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com[x.x.x.x]:587, delay=0.25, delays=0/0.03/0.11/0.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok 010b0178a417c95d-aabe4f9d-9d5d-4508-849e-8902dc08c9b7-00) Than

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 - notifications not being properly sent to list owner

2021-04-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/6/21 3:37 PM, David Nicol wrote: > Thanks for your help. This is the postfix log around the time of the email > from my account david.ni...@x.co.uk, which is not a member of testmail. > > Apr 5 22:12:02 ip-172-26-1-182 postfix/qmgr[1716]: 562AD3EB8F: > from=, size=11241, nrcpt=1 (queue

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 - notifications not being properly sent to list owner

2021-04-06 Thread David Nicol
Thanks for your help. This is the postfix log around the time of the email from my account david.ni...@x.co.uk, which is not a member of testmail. Apr 5 22:12:02 ip-172-26-1-182 postfix/pickup[8839]: 562AD3EB8F: uid=1002 from= Apr 5 22:12:02 ip-172-26-1-182 postfix/cleanup[9466]: 562AD3EB8

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1 - notifications not being properly sent to list owner

2021-04-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/6/21 12:21 AM, David Nicol wrote: > * But looking at the postfix logs, it appears to me that mailman does try > to send a message to the moderator > > Apr 5 22:12:05 ip-xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx postfix/smtp[9473]: 6D0973EB91: to=< > testmail-ow...@lists.xxx.org.uk>, > > But, the email message is bei

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman Grey listing Member Disablement Question

2021-02-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 2/9/21 11:32 AM, pwill...@fredhutch.org wrote: > Hi, > > We're running Mailman version 3 that's using a mail relay for sending mail. The list for Mailman 3 users is mailman-us...@mailman3.org > We've been running into is

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman Archives problem

2021-01-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/5/21 12:10 AM, sundar wrote: > Hi, > > I am using mailman 2.1.29, pipermail 0.09 , I am facing a problem with the > archives attachment. The HTML attachments are scrubbed in the url like > "mailman/private/announce/attachments/20191231/1ef651ee/*attachment.htm*" , > when we open that url it

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

2021-01-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/2/21 11:56 AM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote: > > Going-in on 'A', I clear them.  Tomorrow, they reappear with > exactly the same submission dates; one before I corrected the > inbound mail routing and one after. When you go to the admindb interface on "A", view the source of the page. On

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

2021-01-02 Thread jackson
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 1/1/21 1:43 PM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote: What I'm still struggling with is... Please send me one of these email notices off list. I need to see all the headers from the raw message source. I'll see what I can see from that. Thanks very much

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

2021-01-02 Thread jackson
It was a helpful suggestion. Pipermail archiving directory hierarchy is out on NAS and is shared however long-ago changes whould have broken archiving. A non-member held post wouldn't be archived but thinking along the same lines I had wondered about nightly NAS backup/restore. System files are n

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

2021-01-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/1/21 1:43 PM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote: > > What I'm still struggling with is why tomorrow, 'A' will email > (I'll go in on web admin on 'A' there'll be nothing there).  I go in > on admin on 'B' the exact ones reported in the 'A's email will be > there, I'll discard them, 'B' will the

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

2021-01-01 Thread jackson
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 1/1/21 11:48 AM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote: Then neither of those instances is the one sending the notices. You need to look at the chain of Received: headers in the notice to find the IP of the server that is originating them. Then you have to

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

2021-01-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/1/21 11:48 AM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote: > > The list was indeed migrated from one instance to another. > > Surely the requests need to be cleared-out of the instance > doing the email reporting. > > On both, Mailman reports "There are no pending requests." > > The following day, an

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

2021-01-01 Thread jackson
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 1/1/21 1:55 AM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote: Admin email received 8am each morning listing the pending posts from non-members. Mailman reports "There are no pending requests." Tomorrow the same thing happens reporting the same historic date of th

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.24 Recurring Pending Requests

2021-01-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/1/21 1:55 AM, jack...@encompasserve.org wrote: > > Admin email received 8am each morning listing the pending > posts from non-members. > > Go in and: > > 1. select 'Reject' on each post > 2. add the faked sender to the block from subscribing filter > 3. submit all data > > Mailman reports

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.34 with Captcha

2020-11-11 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 19:28, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/11/20 1:59 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > I am getting "ERROR for site owner: Invalid key type" with Google > > reCAPTCHA. > > when using v3 key type. > > > You need V2 checkbox keys for this feature. > > -- > Mark Sapiro The

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.34 with Captcha

2020-11-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/11/20 1:59 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I am getting "ERROR for site owner: Invalid key type" with Google > reCAPTCHA. > when using v3 key type. You need V2 checkbox keys for this feature. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabett

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.34 with Captcha

2020-11-11 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 21:01, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/10/20 7:28 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 10:28, Sebastian Hagedorn > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Am 10.11.20 um 08:00 schrieb Odhiambo Washington: > >>> Hello good people, > >>> > >>> Which of the many HOWTOs on

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.34 with Captcha

2020-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/10/20 7:28 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 10:28, Sebastian Hagedorn > wrote: > >> >> >> Am 10.11.20 um 08:00 schrieb Odhiambo Washington: >>> Hello good people, >>> >>> Which of the many HOWTOs online is the recommended one for integrating >>> Captcha with mailman-2

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.34 with Captcha

2020-11-10 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 10:28, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > > Am 10.11.20 um 08:00 schrieb Odhiambo Washington: > > Hello good people, > > > > Which of the many HOWTOs online is the recommended one for integrating > > Captcha with mailman-2.1.34? > > We use the new text cased Captcha feature: > >

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.34 with Captcha

2020-11-09 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
Am 10.11.20 um 08:00 schrieb Odhiambo Washington: Hello good people, Which of the many HOWTOs online is the recommended one for integrating Captcha with mailman-2.1.34? We use the new text cased Captcha feature: # Use a custom question-answer CAPTCHA to protect against subscription spam. #

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-20 Thread Bill Cole
On 19 Sep 2020, at 8:39, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: As far as I know there are already obvious security holes in Python 2 if you need to use TLS, especially on Mac. Python 2 is not up to current security recommendations with respect to SSL and TLS versions, and I suspect not with respect to oth

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 9/20/20 7:40 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Yes. That means that the Mailman Cabal enjoys working with me and > values what I do, and that's all it means. By the way, I'm not sure > why you keep mentioning the Mailman Cabal, There Is No Cabal. ;-) Technically, mailman-cabal is just the

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-20 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Sun, 2020-09-20 at 23:40 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > > On Sun, 2020-09-20 at 18:23 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > I imagine ARC support is something Jim Popovitch would like to have. > > > You imagine wrong. > > OK, so you don't belie

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > You're on the Mailman Cabal Yes. That means that the Mailman Cabal enjoys working with me and values what I do, and that's all it means. By the way, I'm not sure why you keep mentioning the Mailman Cabal, There Is No Cabal. ;-) >> I imagine ARC suppo

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-20 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Sun, 2020-09-20 at 18:23 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I wrote: > > > > >> I'm pretty sure that at least for now I[1] can configure a > > > >> system to run Mailman 2 so that none of the above matters > > "None of the above" includes other crypto. > > > > > I'm pretty sure that's pur

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
I wrote: > > >> I'm pretty sure that at least for now I[1] can configure a > > >> system to run Mailman 2 so that none of the above matters "None of the above" includes other crypto. > > > I'm pretty sure that's pure FUD. I do not agree. Besides being able to talk SMTP (and some people have

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-19 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 13:07, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that at least for now I[1] can configure a system to > >> run Mailman 2 so that none of the above matters (eg, have the web > >> server and MTA speak TLS so that Mailman doesn't have to), but I'm not > >> confident that will la

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-19 Thread Dmitri Maziuk
On 9/19/2020 11:50 AM, Matthew Pounsett wrote: I'm pretty sure that's pure FUD. I'm not the expert on mailman that most of you are, but I can think of no reason for mailman itself to ever speak HTTP or SMTP, and therefore no reason for it to need to do TLS. I'd be very surprised at anyone runn

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 9/19/20 9:50 AM, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > I'm probably going to regret getting involved in this conversation, but ... > > On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 08:48, Stephen J. Turnbull < > turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that at least for now I[1] can configure a system to

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-19 Thread Matthew Pounsett
I'm probably going to regret getting involved in this conversation, but ... On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 08:48, Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > I'm pretty sure that at least for now I[1] can configure a system to > run Mailman 2 so that none of the above matters (eg,

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users writes: > I am in no way a programmer - but as I understand it, Python 2 can > live alongside Python 3 without any problems. True. > The EOL declaration for Python 2 does NOT mean that Python 2 will > stop working on the date the publishers announced. Ther

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Matthew Pounsett writes: > If someone was going to undertake a rewrite of Postorius, using a > different web development framework (e.g. Flask, but pretty much > anything that isn't Django) would at least remove one major moving > part from the install process. Rewrites of Postorius or HyperK

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-17 Thread Dmitri Maziuk
On 9/17/2020 3:59 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote: ... The writing has been on the wall for Python2 for nearly ten years. The EOL date has already been extended five years. It's time to let it go. The big concern du jour in science community is: can you take your scripts from 10 years ago and r

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-17 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 2020-09-17 14:34, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: > Of course I do not want do move anyone away from Mailman. If Phil absolutely > wants to retire Python 2 on his machine(s), And that is precisely my motivation. The writing has been on the wall for Python2 for nearly ten years. Th

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-17 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 2020-09-17 13:59, Christian F Buser wrote: > I am in no way a programmer - but as I understand it, Python 2 can live > alongside Python 3 without any problems. Oh, indeed, it totally can. And right now, it does, on two of my three Linux boxes. I've managed to get Python2 completely off the

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-17 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 14:56 -0400, Brian Carpenter wrote: > On 9/17/20 2:27 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 14:15 -0400, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > Absolutely not. I'm intrigued by the idea of mailman-core (1/3 of mm3) > > with a lightweight web-based GUI in fr

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