[Mailman-Users] Re: [ext] Re: Subscription Attacks

> > This is not perfect, but the intent is to require first getting the > form and then delaying a bit to fill it out before submitting it to > prevent bots from submitting a canned form or getting the form and replying > immediately. What's a good value? 5? We started out at 5 and changed t

[Mailman-Users] Re: Subscription Attacks

On 7/14/25 7:16 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users wrote: * Mark Sapiro : SUBSCRIBE_FORM_MIN_TIME = seconds(number) What's a good value? 5? It's difficult to say. I've thought 5 was good, but I've seen a recent attack where a bot would GET the form and wait 15 seconds before posting.

[Mailman-Users] Re: [ext] Re: Subscription Attacks

* Mark Sapiro : > SUBSCRIBE_FORM_MIN_TIME = seconds(number) > > where is number is a number of seconds. You misunderstand this. It doesn't > say the form has to be submitted within that time. It says the form can't be > submitted within that time. I.e., you have to wait at least that long before

[Mailman-Users] Re: Deleting Subscriptions

On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 4:11 AM David Andrews via Mailman-Users < mailman-users@python.org> wrote: > I have a couple lists that are under some kind of subscription > attack. There are thousands of subscription requests being held. I > have things set to delete held messages after one day, but it

[Mailman-Users] Re: Somewhat off-topic: Postmaster and other administrative addresses, are they necessary?

On 7/11/25 17:27, Rich Kulawiec wrote: Yes. And there are people who will do the same. Supporting postmaster@ has been a de facto and de jure requirement for decades, and I won't accept ANY excuse for failure to do so. Same for abuse@, security@ and (in the case of any domain with a web site)

[Mailman-Users] Re: Somewhat off-topic: Postmaster and other administrative addresses, are they necessary?

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 10:46:45PM -0500, Jayson Smith wrote: > I know there are a few RFC's which specify that postmaster@ must be a valid > address at all domains. Are there any Email or other systems that > actually care about this, and will declare me to be an evil, non-compliant > server admin

[Mailman-Users] Re: Somewhat off-topic: Postmaster and other administrative addresses, are they necessary?

On 7/10/25 10:46 PM, Jayson Smith wrote: Are there any Email or other systems that actually care about this, and will declare me to be an evil, non-compliant server administrator if such addresses do not accept mail? You asked about systems. I'm not aware of any systems that will care, save

[Mailman-Users] Re: Somewhat off-topic: Postmaster and other administrative addresses, are they necessary?

On 7/10/25 11:46 PM, Jayson Smith wrote: Recently I've been getting lots of very similar spam. The sending address seems to always be info@some.domain, the sender's name is one of an apparently fixed set of firstname lastname, the subjects are always something very generic like "Read this," "

[Mailman-Users] Re: Create moderator-only accessible list of allowed posters?

On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 10:28 AM Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > and would allow an immediate rejection of posts, with an optional > > rejection message for non-2nd tier subscribers. > > This may be possible in Mailman 2.1, but I don't have an instance to > check. I think there were list-wide

[Mailman-Users] Re: Subscription Attacks

At 12:38 PM 6/28/2025, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 6/28/25 09:46, David Andrews via Mailman-Users wrote: There is stuff about the "secret form?" would this work? If I understand it, the IP must match. Then there is stuff about the life of the form? Do both conditions have to be true.? Many of o

[Mailman-Users] Re: Subscription Attacks

On 6/28/25 09:46, David Andrews via Mailman-Users wrote: There is stuff about the "secret form?" would this work?  If I understand it, the IP must match. Then there is stuff about the life of the form?  Do both conditions have to be true.? Many of our users do not return a form quickly, they

[Mailman-Users] Re: Encoding issues on 2.1.39

On 6/27/25 06:09, Gabriele Carioli via Mailman-Users wrote: I've recently upgraded an ancient 2.1.12 mailman installation to 2.1.39 and noticed an encoding issue, when adding users via add_members. Steps to reproduce and fix the issue: 1. Put these accented user names in an utf-8 file (users-u

[Mailman-Users] Re: Malicious web subscription requests

I've observed this as well, in two incidents over the past 60 hours. I do not recommend captchas (for this or anything else) because they were thoroughly defeated ~15 years ago. I recommend firewall rules: there is no reason in the world to continue to allow access by people, systems, or networ

[Mailman-Users] Re: Malicious web subscription requests

On 2025-06-24 at 00:53:55 UTC-0400 (Tue, 24 Jun 2025 04:53:55 + (UTC)) Stephen J. Turnbull is rumored to have said: Jayson Smith writes: [...] I also don't quite understand the motivation for subscribe form flooding. What does the bad actor gain from sending out tons of subscribe request

[Mailman-Users] Re: Malicious web subscription requests

Jayson Smith writes: > Thanks for this information. However, I'm not sure this type of > CAPTCHA is very effective any more. All CAPTCHAs are effective to some degree. Whether a "dumb" text captcha would be effective depends on the sophistication of the attacker. I don't know about the subscr

[Mailman-Users] Re: Malicious web subscription requests

Hi again, Thanks for this information. However, I'm not sure this type of CAPTCHA is very effective any more. The problem is that LLM's can, in my experience, effortlessly answer the types of self-referencing questions that have been quite popular with these types of challenges in the past (W

[Mailman-Users] Re: Malicious web subscription requests

On 6/23/25 19:19, Jayson Smith wrote: I know there's been lots of discussion about the topic of malicious web subscribes in the past. However, with the two lists I run, there's a special situation. Almost all people subscribing to these lists are blind, so a visual CAPTCHA is entirely inappro

[Mailman-Users] Re: nomail reset

On 6/7/25 08:13, edi...@visionscience.com wrote: Is there a programmatic way to reset the “nomail” flag on all subscribers of a mailing list? Is it possible to restrict this to the “B” variant? See https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/reset_bounce.py -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gambl

[Mailman-Users] Re: Writing to list bounces with 'user doesn't exist'

On 12 May 2025, at 14:18, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: This isn't a problem yet. The fact that DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and $myorigin are not in $mydestination looks like a potential problem to me, but we'll deal with any issues here once you get mail into the pipes that go to Mailman. So I had `myor

[Mailman-Users] Re: Writing to list bounces with 'user doesn't exist'

Do you actually have the alias for testl...@example.com in either of your aliases files (most probably should be /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases)? The only way postfix will know what to do with that address is via an alias directing it to call a MM function that posts the message to the list.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Writing to list bounces with 'user doesn't exist'

Sean McBride writes: > Hmm, the dovecot-related settings in main.cf seem to be: There are two more settings that are possibly relevant: virtual_mailbox_domains and virtual_alias_domains. These: > smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes > smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot > smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth > sm

[Mailman-Users] Re: Writing to list bounces with 'user doesn't exist'

Guy, Thanks for your reply. In /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman I have entries like: te...@example.com test9 test9-ad...@example.comtest9-admin and in /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases I have entries like: test9: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post tes

[Mailman-Users] Re: Writing to list bounces with 'user doesn't exist'

On 2025-05-12 at 15:41:56 UTC-0400 (Mon, 12 May 2025 15:41:56 -0400) Sean McBride is rumored to have said: It sounds like you still have a working postfix+dovecot setup. :-) Yes, I suppose so! But I keep poking at it so much, I worry :) Indeed I wouldn't expect dovecot to know any such use

[Mailman-Users] Re: Writing to list bounces with 'user doesn't exist'

On 5/12/25 12:41, Sean McBride wrote: Hmm, the dovecot-related settings in main.cf seem to be: mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp This sends all local deliveries to dovecot before consulting aliases. smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot smtpd_sasl_path = pr

[Mailman-Users] Re: Writing to list bounces with 'user doesn't exist'

It sounds like you still have a working postfix+dovecot setup. :-) Yes, I suppose so! But I keep poking at it so much, I worry :) Indeed I wouldn't expect dovecot to know any such user, so I'm not sure what step I've missed... In my postfix main.cf I have: Unfortunately, you've left out th

[Mailman-Users] Re: Is postfix owner_request_special needed for mailman2?

It's set to `no` because `yes` is the default and the appropriate setting for MM 2.1 is `no` except it shouldn't matter because owner-listname is not a MM 2.1 address and while listname-request is, in a MM 2.1 installation recipient_delimiter is normally set to `+`. Thanks Mark, Indeed my del

[Mailman-Users] Re: Is postfix owner_request_special needed for mailman2?

On 7 May 2025, at 20:45, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If 'recipient_delimiter' is set to '+', which is the modern > convention, this setting is a no-op, because no splitting on '-' would > be done anyway. Check the setting with "postconf recipient_delimiter". Stephen, Thanks very much for your

[Mailman-Users] Re: Is postfix owner_request_special needed for mailman2?

On 5/7/25 07:08, Sean McBride wrote: Hi all, I'm migrating a server with older postfix & older mailman2 and noticed one setting in postfix's main.cf: owner_request_special = no The postfix docs for this setting say: "Enable special treatment for owner-listname entries in the aliases(5) fil

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.x vulnerabilities found

On 4/29/25 06:31, Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users wrote: Just received word about those three: https://github.com/0NYX-MY7H/CVE-2025-43921 -- wasn't able to reproduce on 2.1.39 https://github.com/0NYX-MY7H/CVE-2025-43920 -- wasn't able to reproduce on 2.1.39, due to not using an *_EXTERNAL_A

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-2.1.x vulnerabilities found

On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 9:32 AM Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users < mailman-users@python.org> wrote: > Just received word about those three: > > https://github.com/0NYX-MY7H/CVE-2025-43921 > -- wasn't able to reproduce on 2.1.39 > Same for me. All this "exploit" gets me is the list creation pag

[Mailman-Users] Re: Here's a Python error, I hope somebody can give the solution

On 4/8/25 21:30, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Mark Sapiro writes: > On 4/8/25 07:06, Abbas Butt via Mailman-Users wrote: > > TypeError: 'int' object is not subscriptable. Sure looks like spam intended to phish us into clicking on an unrelated link. I thought so too after the fact and remove

[Mailman-Users] Re: Here's a Python error, I hope somebody can give the solution

Mark Sapiro writes: > On 4/8/25 07:06, Abbas Butt via Mailman-Users wrote: > > TypeError: 'int' object is not subscriptable. Sure looks like spam intended to phish us into clicking on an unrelated link. -- GNU Mailman consultant (installation, migration, customization) Sirus Open Sourcehtt

[Mailman-Users] Re: Here's a Python error, I hope somebody can give the solution

On 4/8/25 07:06, Abbas Butt via Mailman-Users wrote: TypeError: 'int' object is not subscriptable. Where are you seeing this error? If there is a traceback associated with it, what is it. Note that if this is a question about Mailman 3, the appropriate list is at https://lists.mailman3.org/

[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Again, apologies to all for the disruption. Thanks for your patience. Jim On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 4:26 AM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnb...@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Bill Cole writes: > > > Mailman v2.2.0 is an apparently proprietary product from > > cPanel. > > Mailman v2 is under the GNU GPL

[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Thanks. I was not aware, and apologize for the bother. I'll take this matter up with cPanel. Jim On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:41 PM Bill Cole < mailmanu-20190...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote: > This list is for support of GNU Mailman, a legacy tool whose latest > version is 2.1.39. It will *neve

[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Bill Cole writes: > Mailman v2.2.0 is an apparently proprietary product from > cPanel. Mailman v2 is under the GNU GPL v2, so please use "commercial" rather than "proprietary". The GPL does not require publication of your sources, only source distribution under the GPL to your users, who get a

[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!

On 3/29/25 16:04, Webmaster EnergyJustice via Mailman-Users wrote: My user is getting this error when they try to enter any of the name-augmented mass subscription formats in the guide: https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20can%20I%20Mass%20Subscribe%20a%20list%20with%20real%20names I've tried other

[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!

This list is for support of GNU Mailman, a legacy tool whose latest version is 2.1.39. It will *never* have a version 2.2.x Instead there's an entirely distinct GNU Mailman v3, supported on its own mailing list. Mailman v2.2.0 is an apparently proprietary product from cPanel. Support for it

[Mailman-Users] Re: Text encoding problems

On 2025-03-27 at 16:46:38 UTC-0400 (Thu, 27 Mar 2025 21:46:38 +0100) Christian Buser via Mailman-Users is rumored to have said: Hi all Mailman 2.2.0 on cPanel There is no version 2.2.* of the public version of Mailman. You issue needs to be taken up with cPanel. They've forked Mailman 2 in

[Mailman-Users] Re: Text encoding problems

You can see the latest CPANEL updates here: https://docs.cpanel.net/changelogs/126-change-log/ > On Mar 27, 2025, at 3:46 PM, Christian Buser via Mailman-Users > wrote: > > Hi all > > Mailman 2.2.0 on cPanel > > In the last few days, several messages (not all!) showed problems with their

[Mailman-Users] Re: What happened to my list posting?

On 3/24/25 5:45 AM, Al Black wrote: Hi everyone, For what it's worth, the encoding issue has also been happening with a couple of lists, I admit. Multiple users, can’t seem to find a common denomintor, but I’ve just started looking at. I’m Using Cpanel, Mailman version 2.1.39, and Apple Mail

[Mailman-Users] Re: Disabling the version disclosure.

Hi Steve, Thank you so much the solution. 1st method suggested by you worked. copied the template files and configured the settings.py files as suggest worked without changing actual html files. Thanks again. Regards, Ninad. On 25-03-2025 17:56, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Ninad N. Shaha

[Mailman-Users] Re: Disabling the version disclosure.

On 3/25/25 1:39 PM, Ninad N. Shaha via Mailman-Users wrote: Myself Ninad. I recently installed Mailman3. I am new to MM3. This list is for Mailman 2.1. For Mailman 3, please use https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-us...@mailman3.org/ -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for g

[Mailman-Users] Re: Disabling the version disclosure.

On 3/25/25 1:39 PM, Ninad N. Shaha via Mailman-Users wrote: Myself Ninad. I recently installed Mailman3. I am new to MM3. As per my organization's policy, I need to turn off the version disclosure of Mailman Core, Postorius, and Hyperkitty. Specifically shown in the footer. Please let me kno

[Mailman-Users] Re: What happened to my list posting?

Wow, the appearance in this web interface is even worse than the appearance in my email client. There's no large text, and the lines are broken at about every 78 characters or so. -Kevin -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org

[Mailman-Users] Re: What happened to my list posting?

kevin--- via Mailman-Users writes: > Hi, Mark, thanks for replying. > > This is what appears when I choose "View -> Message Source" in Evolution: This appears to be from your "Sent" folder, not the message as received via the mailing list. I suspect Mark wanted the latter. > Content-Type:

[Mailman-Users] Re: What happened to my list posting?

Hi, Mark, thanks for replying. This is what appears when I choose "View -> Message Source" in Evolution: == Message-ID: Subject: Operating Class Announcement From: Kevin Zembower To: techclas...@k3nem.org, opsclas...@k3nem.org Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 16:15:43 -0400 Con

[Mailman-Users] Re: What happened to my list posting?

Hi everyone, For what it's worth, the encoding issue has also been happening with a couple of lists, I admit. Multiple users, can’t seem to find a common denomintor, but I’ve just started looking at. I’m Using Cpanel, Mailman version 2.1.39, and Apple Mail. FWIW. I’ll report back with some m

[Mailman-Users] Re: What happened to my list posting?

On March 23, 2025 4:09:43 AM GMT+07:00, Kevin Zembower via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > >Instead, they were resent and appeared like this: > > > For your information, and please publicize:=0D=0A=C2=A0=0D=0AFREE ON- >LINE= > AMATEUR RADIO OPERA

[Mailman-Users] Re: Month of March archives webpage has no messages showing

Have you checked the permissions on the list directory files? Sometimes incorrect permissions can cause visibility issues. Also, could it be a caching issue? Maybe try clearing the server cache. Speaking of archives, this reminds me of the Sprunki game - navigating those old-school levels feels

[Mailman-Users] Re: Month of March archives webpage has no messages showing

Jim Dory writes: > Another error I'm now seeing in this update is below: > > List: nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com: problem processing > /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com/digest.mbox: > > 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x93 in position 104: invalid

[Mailman-Users] Re: Month of March archives webpage has no messages showing

On 3/10/25 10:55 PM, Jim Dory wrote: On 3/10/25 10:49 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 3/11/25 12:32 PM, Jim Dory wrote: I realize this may be a CPanel issue, but perhaps someone familiar with that can help out. The web page for the list archives says 60 messages but none are visible. The messages a

[Mailman-Users] Re: Month of March archives webpage has no messages showing

David Andrews via Mailman-Users writes: > At 01:49 AM 3/11/2025, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >It appears cPanel Mailman is now running under Python 3. I'm not > >surprised there are issues. Migrating Mailman 2.1 to Python 3 is > >not an easy task, > > The other day, I read in the Mailman roadmap i

[Mailman-Users] Re: Month of March archives webpage has no messages showing

At 01:49 AM 3/11/2025, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 3/11/25 12:32 PM, Jim Dory wrote: I realize this may be a CPanel issue, but perhaps someone familiar with that can help out. The web page for the list archives says 60 messages but none are visible. The messages are in the list directory. The unusua

[Mailman-Users] Re: Month of March archives webpage has no messages showing

On 3/10/25 10:49 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 3/11/25 12:32 PM, Jim Dory wrote: I realize this may be a CPanel issue, but perhaps someone familiar with that can help out. The web page for the list archives says 60 messages but none are visible. The messages are in the list directory. The unusual

[Mailman-Users] Re: Month of March archives webpage has no messages showing

On 3/11/25 12:32 PM, Jim Dory wrote: I realize this may be a CPanel issue, but perhaps someone familiar with that can help out. The web page for the list archives says 60 messages but none are visible. The messages are in the list directory. The unusual thing for this month is the "Starting:

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman won't start - no Defaults module

Sorry - I was able to fix this when I found this page: https://support.cpanel.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/29645975750423-Tier-Current-126-0-2-has-broken-mailman saying: sys.path.append('/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman') was missing in mm_cfg.py , it only had "from Defaults import *

[Mailman-Users] Re: List URL problem

On 3/6/25 4:05 AM, Eva Isaksson via Mailman-Users wrote: Also the list archive seems to have lost the "lists" part of the URL. After trying to refresh the configuration of this list, the problem persists. How to fix this? See the withlist script at mailman/bin/fix_url.py -- Mark Sapiro

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman-loop sending mail to undesirable address

Macs R We via Mailman-Users writes: > I believe I have solved the nondelivery problem by increasing the > munging isolation factor from "rewrite header" to "enclose in > wrapper." I'm glad you're using the wrapper option: I conceived and implemented that myself. As long as your DKIM settings

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman-loop sending mail to undesirable address

I bopped around in /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman today. I grepped for the string "unifiedlayer" and found it in only one file -- an archived or template (not live) copy of the mail archives HTML page header. I verified that the live page had the proper contents in it. I gave up the hunt as

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

I open a ticket with CPANEL and they figured out what was happening. Looks like Imunify 360 email was stripping the dkim signature off of the mailman messages. Who would have thunk it I turned the email process off and sent out a message and lo and behold it was dkim compliant. Thanks for

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

On 1/30/25 14:15, jerry.barnabee--- via Mailman-Users wrote: all of the non-mailman emails get signed by template.missourimasternaturalists.org Which also appears to be the sender domain for list mail. so I'm lost as to why list mail isn't signed. This is a question for an Exim support res

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

all of the non-mailman emails get signed by template.missourimasternaturalists.org how do I execute that command ?? ${perl{get_dkim_domain}} return a domain or list of domains including the mailman list domain? JerryB -- Mailman-Users mailing

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

On 1/30/25 11:55, jerry.barnabee--- via Mailman-Users wrote: Here is the code that Is in the exim.conf - but looks like greek to me :) I do know that all of the domains are listed and have correct dkim entries in the dns. Do you know of anyone that actually has a mailman 2.1.39 installation that

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

Here is the code that Is in the exim.conf - but looks like greek to me :) I do know that all of the domains are listed and have correct dkim entries in the dns. Do you know of anyone that actually has a mailman 2.1.39 installation that does add dkim signatures to the mailman emails ? Thanks, Jerr

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

On 1/28/25 11:55, jerry.barnabee--- via Mailman-Users wrote: Event: success success Sender User:-remote- Sender Domain: From Address: members-boun...@template.missourimasternaturalists.org So this is mail from a list. ... Router: dkim_lookuphost Transport: dkim_remote_smtp A

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

When I look at "email sent summary" (see below) it shows that the other email made it to and was accepted by your email server ... so since it is not in your inbox it should be in your spam/junk folder ... the message got set via the mailing list: memb...@template.missourimasternaturalists.org

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

Jerry Barnabee via Mailman-Users writes: > Thanks for your reply. I am replying directly to your email as I > didn't see your reply in the threads of my original post. It's there in the archive. I recently retired and they cut off my email for several months (despite being reemployed part-time

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

jerry.barnabee--- via Mailman-Users writes: > CPANEL does all the heavy lifting for me - e.g. I don't have to add > any code anywhere - the only thing that I have to do is make sure > the correct spf, dkim and dmarc dns records exist on my name server > for each of my domains- which they do. P

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

Stephen, Thanks for your reply. I am replying directly to your email as I didn't see your reply in the threads of my original post. My guess is that you are not getting complaints because it is just recently that the big name email servers (gmail, yahoo, icloud, microsoft) have just recently s

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

On 1/25/25 12:30, jerry.barnabee--- via Mailman-Users wrote: CPANEL does all the heavy lifting for me - e.g. I don't have to add any code anywhere - the only thing that I have to do is make sure the correct spf, dkim and dmarc dns records exist on my name server for each of my domains- which t

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

CPANEL does all the heavy lifting for me - e.g. I don't have to add any code anywhere - the only thing that I have to do is make sure the correct spf, dkim and dmarc dns records exist on my name server for each of my domains- which they do. Pretty sure opendkim is not being used by CPANEL. Is p

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

On 1/25/25 11:32, jerry.barnabee--- via Mailman-Users wrote: The MTA is already set up to dkim sign messages - my php scripts that use the "mail" command to send out email messages get a DKIM signature, all the system generated emails get a DKIM signature. But mailman sent emails do not. For s

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

The MTA is already set up to dkim sign messages - my php scripts that use the "mail" command to send out email messages get a DKIM signature, all the system generated emails get a DKIM signature. But mailman sent emails do not. For some reason mailman is not sending the emails out thru the same

[Mailman-Users] Re: DKIM signatures

On 1/25/25 10:07, jerry.barnabee--- via Mailman-Users wrote: Is there any work around that can add a valid DKIM signature to outgoing mailman 2.x emails. You need to configure your outgoing MTA to DKIM sign the mail. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area,

[Mailman-Users] Re: upcp error in check_perms

On 1/22/25 17:55, Webmaster EnergyJustice via Mailman-Users wrote: Hello, all, I looked through the archives, FAQ, and bug reports, and couldn't find information on this error. [2025-01-22 19:39:30 -0500] E [./check_perms] Traceback (most recent call last): [2025-01-22 19:39:30 -0500] E [./chec

[Mailman-Users] Re: Forced Switching to Plain Text and Display Problems

Mark wrote: "Please don't hijack threads. I.e., to start a new topic, post a new message, not a reply to an existing message." Apologizes Mark -- that is basic list etiquette. I thought I had started a new message chain by erasing all text in an existing message and changing the Subject Line --

[Mailman-Users] Re: Forced Switching to Plain Text and Display Problems

Please don't hijack threads. I.e., to start a new topic, post a new message, not a reply to an existing message. On 1/12/25 19:32, Michael Reeder LCPC Secure via Mailman-Users wrote: I'm gathering feedback from my list of users trying to track down an odd problem in which headers display in i

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailman at Hostmonster - default server IP

Thank you Mark for your reply. Yes, I found it strange also. I have been with HostMonster for 20 years. Almost zero issues until mid-October. What was strange is that the lists were working intermittently for about a month after that. Also, I had suspicions about the Bluehost acquisition.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailman at Hostmonster - default server IP

On 1/2/25 12:11, Russell Clemings via Mailman-Users wrote: This is shared hosting, right? I'm using Mailman (different host, though) on a VPS and the list emails use the IP address of my VPS. This is for outgoing mail which is presumably also the case (IP of the shared server) for the mail fro

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailman at Hostmonster - default server IP

On 1/2/25 12:04, ski--- via Mailman-Users wrote: This was the response I had received from Hostmonster. Hostmonster - The emails sent via Mailman use the IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the default IP address of the server. Unfortunately, when emails from this address are dropped due to mailing

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailman at Hostmonster - default server IP

This is shared hosting, right? I'm using Mailman (different host, though) on a VPS and the list emails use the IP address of my VPS. On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 12:05 PM ski--- via Mailman-Users < mailman-users@python.org> wrote: > This was the response I had received from Hostmonster. > > Hostmonster

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailman at Hostmonster - default server IP

This was the response I had received from Hostmonster. Hostmonster - The emails sent via Mailman use the IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the default IP address of the server. Unfortunately, when emails from this address are dropped due to mailing list restrictions, it becomes challenging to lif

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailman at Hostmonster - default server IP

Thank you for the reply. Yes. I use mailman through cpnanel. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org

[Mailman-Users] Re: Removing subscriber with illegal email format

On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 5:48 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > To clean this completely put the following in a file > ``` > for attribute in ( > mlist.admin_responses, > mlist.bounce_info, > mlist.delivery_status, > mlist.hold_and_cmd_autoresponses, > mlist.language, > mlist.o

[Mailman-Users] Re: Removing subscriber with illegal email format

On 12/28/24 15:13, Scott Neader wrote: After successfully removing the problematic user (with the two @ in their email address), I am still seeing a problem with the 'disabled' cron, pointing to this user that was already removed (thanks to your help). Here's the cron output (with the offending e

[Mailman-Users] Re: Removing subscriber with illegal email format

After successfully removing the problematic user (with the two @ in their email address), I am still seeing a problem with the 'disabled' cron, pointing to this user that was already removed (thanks to your help). Here's the cron output (with the offending email address redacted) # /usr/bin/python

[Mailman-Users] Re: Removing subscriber with illegal email format

It worked!! Many thanks! - Scott On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 4:52 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/27/24 07:20, Scott Neader wrote: > > Hello all! Somehow, one of our Mailman2 lists has a member with a bad > > email address, in the format of user@@example.com (i.e. two @ symbols). > > This is break

[Mailman-Users] Re: Removing subscriber with illegal email format

On 12/27/24 14:50, Mark Sapiro wrote: Then run ``` bin/config_list -i path_to_the_above_file ``` Ooops. That should be ``` bin/config_list -i path_to_the_above_file LISTNAME ``` -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B

[Mailman-Users] Re: Removing subscriber with illegal email format

On 12/27/24 07:20, Scott Neader wrote: Hello all! Somehow, one of our Mailman2 lists has a member with a bad email address, in the format of user@@example.com (i.e. two @ symbols). This is breaking at least one cron (disabled) I've tried removing the address via the backend admin, as well as c

[Mailman-Users] Re: Removing subscriber with illegal email format

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 09:20:46AM -0600, Scott Neader wrote: > Hello all! Somehow, one of our Mailman2 lists has a member with a bad > email address, in the format of user@@example.com (i.e. two @ symbols). > This is breaking at least one cron (disabled) > > I've tried removing the address via

[Mailman-Users] Re: Removing subscriber with illegal email format

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 09:55:26PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 09:20:46AM -0600, Scott Neader wrote: > > Hello all! Somehow, one of our Mailman2 lists has a member with a bad Whoops - just noticed mailman2 rather than mailman3; sorry. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU C

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailman at Hostmonster - default server IP

On 12/21/24 08:38, j...@scroggsfamily.net wrote: One issue I found is it could be the host is blocking the outgoing port that Mailman uses. So I'm asking my hosting provider about that possibility. This is unlikely. Mailman sends to localhost port 25 (in cPanel, this is the exim MTA). Presu

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailman at Hostmonster - default server IP

I created a post on cPanel. Hopefully they'll have some good answers come through on there. https://support.cpanel.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/28706820128407-Mailman-on-cPanel-not-able-to-send-to-external-domains One issue I found is it could be the host is blocking the outgoing port that Mail

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailman at Hostmonster - default server IP

I've recently run into the exact same issue with BlueHost (actually JustHost) and it is a cPanel version of Mailman. And they told me the same thing and recommended I use another program. So greatly interested in finding a solution for how to fix this problem that just crept up recently. ---

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailman at Hostmonster - default server IP

On 12/18/24 11:26, ski--- via Mailman-Users wrote: Help. I have been using mailman at hostmonster many years. Recently, email delivery to external domains stopped (yes, DNS / SPF/ DKIM/ DMARC all good). Hostmonster says it is a IP address issues Hostmonster - "The emails sent via Mailman use

[Mailman-Users] Re: Looking For Help

On 12/12/24 06:01, James Schaum via Mailman-Users wrote: The organization I work for is looking for a consultant who can assist in the migration of a mailman v2 environment to mailman v3. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. There are a few listed at https://wiki.list.org/COM/Ma

[Mailman-Users] Re: Odd entries in smtp log for one of our lists

On 12/13/24 09:19, Johnson, Bruce E - (bjohnson) wrote: One of our list owners got an odd notice from our institutional email security/spam management system (Mimecast) for a bounced email from her list. She was a bit confused because she hadn’t sent anything to the list (it operates as an ann

[Mailman-Users] Re: sudden (?) issue with subscription options CGI

While you could just copy https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/view/head:/Mailman/Cgi/options.py to your installation, if you don't want to do that, this patch against the 2.1.39 base should fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1961762 ``` --- Mailman/Cgi/options.py

[Mailman-Users] Re: sudden (?) issue with subscription options CGI

On November 30, 2024 2:07:54 PM PST, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Compare your Mailman/Cgi/options.py to > . > Do they match? They won't match because there have been changes since 2.1.39, but I think this may

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