Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-07 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/7/2009, Mark Sapiro (m...@msapiro.net) wrote: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> >> However, in this case, I was assuming that Mark simply took you at >> your word that mailmanctl lives in /bin, > Exactly. Ok, but... well, I didn't exactly say that, but yes, that was what the command in questio

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >However, in this case, I was assuming that Mark simply took you at >your word that mailmanctl lives in /bin, Exactly. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
I'm sorry, I missed the OP and can't at the moment check the archives... On Aug 7, 2009, at 5:44 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: However, in this case, I was assuming that Mark simply took you at your word that mailmanctl lives in /bin, not in something like /usr/lib/mailman/bin (which is where

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-07 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/7/2009 5:44 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>> (There's no good reason for *any* mailman program to be on anybody's >>> PATH, so yes, just having /bin/mailmanctl makes your installation >>> nonstandard.) >> Hmmm... Mark didn't seem to agree... he said: > First, if you're sure you know why Ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
tansta...@libertytrek.org writes: > On 8/2/2009, Stephen J. Turnbull (step...@xemacs.org) wrote: > > (There's no good reason for *any* mailman program to be on anybody's > > PATH, so yes, just having /bin/mailmanctl makes your installation > > nonstandard.) > > Hmmm... Mark didn't seem to a

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-06 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/2/2009, Stephen J. Turnbull (step...@xemacs.org) wrote: > (There's no good reason for *any* mailman program to be on anybody's > PATH, so yes, just having /bin/mailmanctl makes your installation > nonstandard.) Hmmm... Mark didn't seem to agree... he said: > Your init script should just cont

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-06 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/2/2009 10:05 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > This is the real issue. mailmanctl should always be run by root. Your > init script should just contain > > /bin/mailmanctl -s start >/dev/null 2>&1 > > without the su - mailman Ok, I tried this, but it did the same thing... however, I tried something e

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-06 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/2/2009, Mark Sapiro (m...@msapiro.net) wrote: > This is the real issue. mailmanctl should always be run by root. Hmmm... ok, thanks. So, on linux, when an init script runs at startup, it runs as root? > Your init script should just contain > > /bin/mailmanctl -s start >/dev/null 2>&1 > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-06 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/2/2009 5:13 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > It's not supposed to work. mailman privileges should only be > accessible by the system administrator, ie, someone who has the root > password. Ah, ok, that makes sense... > It's not a problem with the password for the mailman user. :-) > > The

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: > >Is the mailman user supposed to be passwordless? It doesn't matter. It's up to you and your own policy. >I know I'm running a non vanilla version, but my question is mostly >generic I think... > >Currently, the init script contains: > >su - mailman -c '/bin/m

[Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
tansta...@libertytrek.org writes: > Is the mailman user supposed to be passwordless? AFAIK there is no need to log in as the mailman user, so that user should have no password (in the sense of "disabled", not in the sense of "zero-length string"). > When I do this from a non-root account: >

[Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-01 Thread tanstaafl
Hello, I'm still trying to fix a problem I've had for a long time (started after an update) where mailman won't start from the standard init script. I think I have finally figured out what the problem is, but wanted to ask... Is the mailman user supposed to be passwordless? I know I'm running a