Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 01/05/2018 02:38 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > not what mailman does with the SMTPHost, and that is my point. It > should be documented clearer (or fixed?). I think MX record is documented fairly clearly on e.g. wikipedia. The rest of it spelled out in Defaults.py in my installation: - "delivery

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/05/2018 03:32 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 01/05/2018 02:13 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> That is not a true statement. When you are looking for a MAIL host, it >> is logical to ask for it with an MX record. > Fine. Dig for an MX record for your defined SMTPHost and see what you get. not

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 01/05/2018 02:13 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > That is not a true statement. When you are looking for a MAIL host, it > is logical to ask for it with an MX record. Fine. Dig for an MX record for your defined SMTPHost and see what you get. -- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-M

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/05/2018 02:56 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > I think you are confused: I am not talking about what you get back, I am > talking about what you ask *for*. >I think you are confused: I am not talking about what you get back, I > am > talking about what you ask *for*. That is just not logical.

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 01/05/2018 01:34 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 01/05/2018 01:41 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: >> On 01/05/2018 11:49 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >>> SMTPHost seems to do a non-mx record lookup for the value ... which is a >>> little strange. >> When you look up >> an MX, you can look up an MX for a *do

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/05/2018 01:41 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 01/05/2018 11:49 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> SMTPHost seems to do a non-mx record lookup for the value ... which is a >> little strange. > When you look up a *host*, you look for A/PTR or CNAME. No, all dns look ups are for hosts. Since this is

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 01/05/2018 11:49 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > SMTPHost seems to do a non-mx record lookup for the value ... which is a > little strange. When you look up a *host*, you look for A/PTR or CNAME. When you look up an MX, you can look up an MX for a *domain*, *or* you could look up an MX for a *host*.

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/05/2018 12:17 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > But I don't see why it does this. It doesn't seem to be dns confusion > because that works correctly for the mx records. It seems to be > confusion restricted to mailman OK - I found the problem SMTPHost should be documented to need the FQDN of the h

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/05/2018 09:59 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > I have a custom archive system that I have used for decades and I lost > the ability to send mail through the mailing list to its user account. > > Jan 05 01:13:13 2018 (3042) delivery to arch...@xxx.com failed the code > 550: 5.1.1 : Recipient address

[Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
I have a custom archive system that I have used for decades and I lost the ability to send mail through the mailing list to its user account. Jan 05 01:13:13 2018 (3042) delivery to arch...@xxx.com failed the code 550: 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table I am