Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2016-01-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/16/2016 06:24 AM, Eva Isaksson wrote: > > To cut the long story short, the script worked without any problems. > Taking backups took more time than running the script and doing the > package upgrade. I'm glad the script worked for you. I have mentioned this issue to the Debian people who

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2016-01-16 Thread Eva Isaksson
I did the 2.1.18 upgrade this weekend, after some weighing of the options. In the long run, using the Debian package is less work intensive, so in the end my choice was the utf-8 conversion. > The script is at (mirrored > at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2016-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/07/2016 01:20 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > You can keep the Debian package with it's utf-8 character sets and > programmatically change all your lists so they work. In MM 2.1.19 I > changed the character sets for Russian and Romanian from koi8-r and > iso-8859-2 respectively to utf-8 because I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2016-01-07 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On 1/7/2016 2:40 PM, Eva Isaksson wrote: 2016-01-07 22:12 GMT+02:00 Mark Sapiro : On 01/07/2016 11:44 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I think simply re-entering the description and saving changes will fix this, but you should probably go through the entire web admin UI and do the same for any other non-

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2016-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/07/2016 12:40 PM, Eva Isaksson wrote: > 2016-01-07 22:12 GMT+02:00 Mark Sapiro >: > On 01/07/2016 11:44 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> I think simply re-entering the description and saving changes will fix >> this, but you should probably go through the entire web admi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2016-01-07 Thread Eva Isaksson
2016-01-07 22:12 GMT+02:00 Mark Sapiro : On 01/07/2016 11:44 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I think simply re-entering the description and saving changes will fix > this, but you should probably go through the entire web admin UI and do > the same for any other non-ascii strings. Am I right in thinking

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2016-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/07/2016 11:44 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > You could install Mailman from source. See the FAQ at > for info. Just to be clear, by install from source I mean our source at e.g. , not some packager's source package. --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2016-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/07/2016 04:40 AM, Eva Isaksson wrote: > > Also: > http://sources.debian.net/patches/patch/mailman/1:2.1.18-2/91_utf8.patch/ > > > If this means that debian is forcing everything to utf-8, what should I do, > if every package comes with this forced utf-8 encoding?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2016-01-07 Thread Eva Isaksson
I tried to approach this problem by getting the source package from the debian repository. We are still running wheezy, so we need to stick to 2.1.18 for now. When I built the package, the resulting mailman.mo file for Finnish ends up utf-8 encoded (which I deduced by converting it back to a .po f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2015-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/13/2015 09:18 AM, Eva Isaksson wrote: > > We have been running 2.15, on Debian, but because of the DMARC situation > it's time to upgrade to 2.18.. Why not 2.1.20? > Our upgrades have been rather routine so far, but this time we ran into > problems. Suddenly, the character encoding was p

[Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish

2015-12-14 Thread Eva Isaksson
Hi, I have a charset encoding problem that I'm unable to solve. I've been reading FAQs and list archives with little success. Our lists are in Finnish. The setup: our mailman installation uses its own translation file that is different from the Finnish translation that comes with the release. Bec

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem

2006-11-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >> >> I have a strange problem but it only affects Outlook. Whenever I send >> something to a test list that I created, Outlook displays it in iso-8859-2 >> encoding but the characterset is wrong. But when I change the display in >> outlook to Central Europe (ISO), the text

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem

2006-11-23 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > I have a strange problem but it only affects Outlook. Whenever I send > something to a test list that I created, Outlook displays it in iso-8859-2 > encoding but the characterset is wrong. But when I change the display in > outlook

[Mailman-Users] encoding problem

2006-11-22 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, I have a strange problem but it only affects Outlook. Whenever I send something to a test list that I created, Outlook displays it in iso-8859-2 encoding but the characterset is wrong. But when I change the display in outlook to Central Europe (ISO), the text is displayed correctly. Has

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem Umlauts - windows-1258

2006-04-06 Thread Marcus Sobchak
Am Mittwoch, den 29.03.2006, 21:30 +0200 schrieb Marcus Sobchak: > I got the following error if some people using MS Outlook send mails > with german umlauts in the subject. Those mails don't go through! I'm > using Mailman 2.1.5 on debian woody. Is this a mailman or user side > problem? this seem

[Mailman-Users] encoding problem Umlauts - windows-1258

2006-03-29 Thread Marcus Sobchak
Hei, I got the following error if some people using MS Outlook send mails with german umlauts in the subject. Those mails don't go through! I'm using Mailman 2.1.5 on debian woody. Is this a mailman or user side problem? Thanks, Marcus --- Subject: =?windows-1258?Q?Deutsch-Polnis

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem (french)

2005-10-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tara Star wrote: > >That is indeed still an issue. How are they generated? Where are the >strings for the mails stored? I think what's left to deal with are templates. The html templates for the most part (or entirely) use html escapes for the non-ascii characters so they are OK, but the text te

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem (french)

2005-10-04 Thread Gregory Mokhin
Tara Star wrote: > On Oct 4, 2005, at 02:26, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Here is what I did: > > iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8 -o mailman.po.new mailman.po # convert > from latin-1 to utf-8 > mv mailman.po mailman.po.old # just in case > mv mailman.po.new mailman.po > ../../../bin/msgfmt.py mailman.p

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem (french)

2005-10-04 Thread Tara Star
On Oct 4, 2005, at 02:32, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tara Star wrote: > >> >> >>> messages/fr/LC_MESSAGES/ >>> >> >> so actually, if I just convert this to UTF-8, I should be ok, right? >> > > > I'm not sure, but I think so as far as the web pages go. You may run > into issues with Mailman generated e

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem (french)

2005-10-04 Thread Tara Star
On Oct 4, 2005, at 02:26, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Only problem is the .po will not compile. Of course, I tried >> compiling the original .po just to make sure I hadn't messed things >> up with iconv, and it doesn't compile either :-( >> >> > > > Are you compiling with Mailman's bin/msgfmt.py or so

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem (french)

2005-10-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tara Star wrote: > >On Oct 2, 2005, at 23:18, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> >> The difference here is the stuff with html escapes comes from the >> templates/fr/listinfo.html template and the other comes from >> translated messages in messages/fr/LC_MESSAGES/ > >I've taken the mailman.po file in that dir

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem (french)

2005-10-03 Thread Tara Star
On Oct 2, 2005, at 23:18, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > The difference here is the stuff with html escapes comes from the > templates/fr/listinfo.html template and the other comes from > translated messages in messages/fr/LC_MESSAGES/ I've taken the mailman.po file in that directory and converted it

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem (french)

2005-10-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tara Star wrote: > >Actually, this might work better for you ;-) >https://secure.swissblogs.com/mailman/listinfo/liste > >It's even worse -- there seems to be a mixture of correctly and >incorrectly encoded stuff. The 'correctly encoded' stuff is generated as html escapes as in "Pour voir tous

Re: [Mailman-Users] encoding problem (french)

2005-10-02 Thread Tara Star
> > I'm using mailman for a french-language mailing-list. You can view > the list page here: > > https://secure.swissblogs.com/mailman/admin/liste/general > Actually, this might work better for you ;-) https://secure.swissblogs.com/mailman/listinfo/liste It's even worse -- there seems to be a mix

[Mailman-Users] encoding problem (french)

2005-10-02 Thread Tara Star
Hi, I'm using mailman for a french-language mailing-list. You can view the list page here: https://secure.swissblogs.com/mailman/admin/liste/general Page declares encoding as UTF-8, but it is actually iso-8859-1 (latin-1). (Using Firefox to enforce the encoding the page is viewed in made m