On 05/25/2014 11:35 PM, Mark Rousell wrote:
> On 26/05/2014 07:24, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>> John Levine writes:
>>
>> > This is one of the most annoying things about Yahoo and AOL's misuse
>> > of DMARC -- they're practically forcing people to use hacks to show
>> > unauthenticated fake Fro
>a) It seems to me that this or something like it (i.e. new de facto
>standard headers to work around the problem) is surely an almost
>inevitable outcome anyway.
I wouldn't count on it. The reasonable approach to this kind of
nonsense is for the relatively small set of ISPs using DMARC policy to
On 26/05/2014 07:24, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> John Levine writes:
>
> > This is one of the most annoying things about Yahoo and AOL's misuse
> > of DMARC -- they're practically forcing people to use hacks to show
> > unauthenticated fake From: lines.
>
> Not only that, they're doing it the
John Levine writes:
> This is one of the most annoying things about Yahoo and AOL's misuse
> of DMARC -- they're practically forcing people to use hacks to show
> unauthenticated fake From: lines.
Not only that, they're doing it themselves. :-(
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On 26/05/2014 03:22, John Levine wrote:
>> Until spammers figure out they can send mail
>>
>> From: spam...@evildomain.com
>> X-Original-From: whate...@yahoo.com
>
> This is one of the most annoying things about Yahoo and AOL's misuse
> of DMARC -- they're practically forcing people to use hacks t
On 26/05/2014 01:31, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 05/25/2014 11:31 AM, Mark Rousell wrote:
>>
>> Whilst mail client recognition of the X-Original-From header would
>> alter what users see (which is in fact a key goal in this context,
>> not a bug), DMARC would nevertheless still be effective in terms of
>Until spammers figure out they can send mail
>
>From: spam...@evildomain.com
>X-Original-From: whate...@yahoo.com
This is one of the most annoying things about Yahoo and AOL's misuse
of DMARC -- they're practically forcing people to use hacks to show
unauthenticated fake From: lines.
R's,
John
On 05/25/2014 11:31 AM, Mark Rousell wrote:
>
> Whilst mail client recognition of the X-Original-From header would alter
> what users see (which is in fact a key goal in this context, not a bug),
> DMARC would nevertheless still be effective in terms of its own design
> goals in that mail servers
On 25/05/2014 18:48, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 5/25/14, 11:48 AM, Mark Rousell wrote:
> My view is that any attempt to have the Mail User Agent show a message
> that went through a mailing list as if it originated from the original
> poster (and only from that poster) is doomed, because the whole p
On 25/05/2014 18:27, Peter Shute wrote:
> I'm not comfortable with an email address in the display name not matching
> the real address. If I saw that in a non list email, it would look spammy to
> me.
I agree with you in the case of a non-list email but for a list email it
seems to me to make p
On 5/25/14, 11:48 AM, Mark Rousell wrote:
> What do you think of Yahoo Groups' From munging style and their
> X-Original-From header?
>
> Here is an example:
>
> X-Original-From: Mark Rousell
> From: "Mark Rousell ma...@signal100.com [some-mail-list]"
>
>
>
> I feel this is one of the bette
I'm not comfortable with an email address in the display name not matching the
real address. If I saw that in a non list email, it would look spammy to me.
I don't like the idea of users getting used to seeing that sort of thing as
normal, and there's the problem that lots of mail clients will o
What do you think of Yahoo Groups' From munging style and their
X-Original-From header?
Here is an example:
X-Original-From: Mark Rousell
From: "Mark Rousell ma...@signal100.com [some-mail-list]"
I feel this is one of the better combinations of munging and new
headers. All the informa
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