Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-29 Thread John W. Baxter
On 8/29/2004 9:35, "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -the path to the Mailman smtp log? > > Depends on your installation. It's a file named smtp in a directory > with other files named bounce, error, mischief, post, qrunner, > subscribe and vette. > > The directory might be $prefix/log

RE: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mike wrote: > >Thanks, all for the excellent dialog on this. Couple follow-up questions >from the uninitiated... > >-is there general agreement that if I'm not VERPing or single treading, then >once the Mailman smtp log shows "complete" that I'm good to go to change the >list? I think there is agr

RE: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-28 Thread Mike
TED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages At 6:40 PM -0700 2004-08-27, Mark Sapiro wrote: > But wouldn't those stragglers be queued in the MTA? The question is at > what point can one delete someone from the membership list without > c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:25 AM -0700 2004-08-28, John W. Baxter wrote: More generally, it is safe to use the tools to change the list membership any time...new additions may or may not receive a particular message, and removed addresses may or may not receive a particular message, but no damage is done (if the Mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:55 AM -0700 2004-08-28, Mark Sapiro wrote: I think we're getting a little off track here. I don't think anyone is talking about doing anything that requires code modification. Perhaps. The OP merely asked how long must he wait between posting a message and deleting a user from the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-28 Thread John W. Baxter
On 8/28/2004 8:06, "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 7:35 AM -0700 2004-08-28, John W. Baxter wrote: > >> Does the code open the list once, obtain the addresses it needs (the >> non-digest, not-no-mail, not duplicate filtered, etc) and then do its thing >> without regard to the li

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: > > IMO, making changes like this while Mailman is still processing >the message is unsafe and a very bad idea. At the very least, I >think you should make sure that Mailman has completed all of its >processing and all copies of the message have been handed off to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:35 AM -0700 2004-08-28, John W. Baxter wrote: Does the code open the list once, obtain the addresses it needs (the non-digest, not-no-mail, not duplicate filtered, etc) and then do its thing without regard to the list object on disk, or does it keep peeking into the object on disk while it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-28 Thread John W. Baxter
On 8/27/2004 17:40, "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 6:37 PM -0400 2004-08-26, Mike wrote: > >> Wondering if anyone has a sense how long a message takes to send before I >> can make changes to the membership list. The concern is if I make changes to >> the subscriber list too qui

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-28 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:40 PM -0700 2004-08-27, Mark Sapiro wrote: But wouldn't those stragglers be queued in the MTA? The question is at what point can one delete someone from the membership list without causing a prior post to that person to not be sent? A lot depends on how the mailing list is configured, how

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: >At 6:37 PM -0400 2004-08-26, Mike wrote: > >> Wondering if anyone has a sense how long a message takes to send before I >> can make changes to the membership list. The concern is if I make changes to >> the subscriber list too quickly (remove them), then those folks may not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:37 PM -0400 2004-08-26, Mike wrote: Wondering if anyone has a sense how long a message takes to send before I can make changes to the membership list. The concern is if I make changes to the subscriber list too quickly (remove them), then those folks may not get the message. The answer is

[Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages

2004-08-27 Thread Mike
A newbie question here... Wondering if anyone has a sense how long a message takes to send before I can make changes to the membership list. The concern is if I make changes to the subscriber list too quickly (remove them), then those folks may not get the message. I'd presume it has to do with ho