Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-29 Thread JC Dill
Brad Knowles wrote: At 8:50 AM -0800 2005-01-29, JC Dill wrote: Didn't I say that above? Not that I saw, no. What I read of your message indicated that the virus had infected a normal user and pulled a message out of their sent folder, which would not have had the Approved: header. In my

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
JC Dill wrote: > >An attack of this type would not be just for list administrator posts. >It would also get past whitelist filters - because the message would >come from someone you have already received email from and are much more >likely to be accepting email from than some random stranger a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-29 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:23 AM -0800 2005-01-29, JC Dill wrote: So I repeat my statement, don't allow attachments to your mailing list. The downside is too great, sooner or later your list WILL end up spreading a virus. Absolutely. Can't argue with that. -- Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Those who would

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-29 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:50 AM -0800 2005-01-29, JC Dill wrote: Didn't I say that above? Not that I saw, no. What I read of your message indicated that the virus had infected a normal user and pulled a message out of their sent folder, which would not have had the Approved: header. Even then, most moderator

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-29 Thread JC Dill
Mark Sapiro wrote: Furthermore, if such a scenario has occurred or did occur in the future, I suspect it would be just an unlucky accident. While I'm sure that a clever worm creator could deliberately try to exploit this potential vulnerability, I don't think the payoff would be sufficient to justi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
JC Dill wrote: > >Most moderators use the web to approve email from *others*, but most of >the ones I know who are responsible for originating content for their >list use the approved header when they send the content to their list so >that they don't have to take an additional step of going to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-29 Thread JC Dill
Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:50 PM -0800 2005-01-28, JC Dill wrote: OK, I'm just speculating here... what if there's a virus/trojan out that is able to take email that a user had already sent (email in the "sent" folder), and resend it with a virus payload (in this case, the beagle.ba virus ab

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-29 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:50 PM -0800 2005-01-28, JC Dill wrote: OK, I'm just speculating here... what if there's a virus/trojan out that is able to take email that a user had already sent (email in the "sent" folder), and resend it with a virus payload (in this case, the beagle.ba virus above)? If it grabbed a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-29 Thread Stephanie
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:50:11 -0800, JC Dill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, I'm just speculating here... what if there's a virus/trojan out > that is able to take email that a user had already sent (email in the > "sent" folder), and resend it with a virus payload (in this case, the > beagle.b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-29 Thread Stephanie
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:31:19 -0500 (EST), Dan Mahoney, System Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just had a small problem. A virus was just sent to all the list members > which had spoofed the moderator's email address. No "requires approval" > message was sent, despite the fact that everyon

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-28 Thread JC Dill
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Guys, I just had a small problem. A virus was just sent to all the list members which had spoofed the moderator's email address. No "requires approval" message was sent, despite the fact that everyone (even the moderator) has the "mod" bit set to "on". http://

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dan Mahoney wrote: > >I just had a small problem. A virus was just sent to all the list members >which had spoofed the moderator's email address. No "requires approval" >message was sent, despite the fact that everyone (even the moderator) has >the "mod" bit set to "on". > >http://securityresp

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-28 Thread Bob Sully
Agreed: I run Fedora Core 2 with Mailman on one of my mail servers, using MIMEDefang with SpamAssassin and Clam Antivirus, along with having my lists fully moderated. I've never had even one spam or virus get through (lists have been up for several years; started with RedHat 6.2 or 7.1 and M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-28 Thread Jeff Groves
Maybe you should install a virus scanning feature to your mailer? I use mimedefang which has a hook to many different virus scanning products. I use f-prot. My platform: Fedora Core 2 Sendmail 8.13.1 mimedefang 2.48 f-prot linux ws 4.4.2 this configuration discards infected email messages. Je

[Mailman-Users] Virus Just Got Through on TOTALLY MODERATED list.

2005-01-28 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
Guys, I just had a small problem. A virus was just sent to all the list members which had spoofed the moderator's email address. No "requires approval" message was sent, despite the fact that everyone (even the moderator) has the "mod" bit set to "on". http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avc