At 8:59 PM -0400 2006-06-14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I also say an SMTPPORT
> config there, but wasn't sure if these could be overridden by site/list
> mm_cfg.py files.
The definition of SMTPPORT and SMTPHOST are for the entire
server,
Steve Campbell wrote:
>
>It eventually ends up there in mqueue, I saw, but I couldn't see how. I did
>know
>that there is a nice array defined in Defaults.py, and the input and output
>queues are in and out respectively. I also say an SMTPPORT config there, but
>wasn't sure if these could be overr
Quoting Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> At 4:43 PM -0400 2006-06-14, Steve Campbell wrote:
>
> >> This is an MTA configuration issue. There's nothing here to "fix"
> >> within Mailman.
> >
> > I think I just discovered that Mailman does deliver to the mqueue
> directory.
>
> It has
At 4:43 PM -0400 2006-06-14, Steve Campbell wrote:
>> This is an MTA configuration issue. There's nothing here to "fix"
>> within Mailman.
>
> I think I just discovered that Mailman does deliver to the mqueue directory.
It has it's own internal queue directory, yes. But it does not
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From: "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Steve Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output
>
At 3:02 PM -0400 2006-06-14, Steve Campbell wrote:
> 2. Disable the mailman executable from delivering the outgoing mail, but
> create them in the queue (sort of a sendmail queueonly option). I'm not sure
> this one is possible, and will kill the entire scheme if not. I see a lot of
> possib
Brad,
Ok, I've went around the world with this one, so maybe a fresh start is in
order. I'm sure everyone is getting tired of seeing these "Throttling
output" messages, especially the ones that don't digest. The more I think
about it, the less complex it really becomes, thanks to all of the rep
At 8:58 AM -0400 2006-06-14, Steve Campbell wrote:
>>> Yes. But "normally" you don't throw 22.000 emails at once on your MTA.
>
> But if my list has 22,000 members, isn't that what I am doing?
Maybe, but not necessarily.
>
Brad, and all,
Firstly, thanks, for all the responses on an OT type question. I have
learned quite a bit.
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From: "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bernd Petrovitsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:3
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 17:36 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 11:38 PM +0200 2006-06-13, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
[...]
> >>You would also need to make sure that the first instance of
> >> sendmail (or whatever MTA) is not configured to generate Delivery
> >> Status Notices (DSNs) for delayed m
At 11:42 PM +0200 2006-06-13, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> First you throw the 22.000 mail in the mail queue. And the normal queue
> run will deliver these emails + all others in the queue. So you probably
> want to limit the queue runner anyways (say not more than 100 - or
> whatever works good
At 11:38 PM +0200 2006-06-13, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
>> I think that this would require a second MTA instance -- the
>
> You want that probably anyway since you probably don't want your MTA
> accept 22.000 emails on a public interface in one rush (and I actually
> don't remember out of m
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 11:39 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote:
[...]
> Sounds great. In fact, this is sort of what the Milter people suggested
> without the milter, although I didn't see where the throttling would occur.
First you throw the 22.000 mail in the mail queue. And the normal queue
run will d
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 10:18 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 3:17 PM +0200 2006-06-13, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:06 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Does anyone have a suggestion for throttling?
> >
> > Just store the 22.000 outgoing mails in the mail qu
David,
Thanks for the reply.
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From: "Dave Stern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Steve Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output
> On Tue, 13 Jun 200
At 2:39 PM -0400 2006-06-13, Peter C.S. Adams wrote:
> Thus spake Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, circa 6/13/2006 2:14 PM:
>> Sendmail, postfix, and Exim are all good MTAs. For 99.% of
>> what any site is likely to do, any of these programs should be more
>> than adequate.
>
> Brad, an
Thus spake Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, circa 6/13/2006 2:14 PM:
> Sendmail, postfix, and Exim are all good MTAs. For 99.% of
> what any site is likely to do, any of these programs should be more
> than adequate.
Brad, any thoughts on LSMTP from L-Soft?
Thanks,
peter
--
At 1:22 PM -0400 2006-06-13, Dave Stern wrote:
> 'Course now we're turning to linux and are considering using postfix
> instead but the theory is the same.
Out-of-the-box, I believe that postfix is a better MTA to use for
hosting mailing lists, because configuring sendmail to work well
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Campbell wrote:
> Bernd,
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bernd Petrovitsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output
>
>
>> On Tue, 2
Bernd,
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From: "Bernd Petrovitsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output
> On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:06 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote:
> [...]
>> Does anyone have a suggest
On 6/13/06, Steve Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The failure code is 450 4.7.1. I would probably set the SMTP_MAX_RCPTS =
> "some very small number" also to allow only small amounts at one time.
>
> So, assuming that the milter works properly, and it takes one hundred loops
> for the milter
At 3:17 PM +0200 2006-06-13, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:06 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote:
> [...]
>> Does anyone have a suggestion for throttling?
>
> Just store the 22.000 outgoing mails in the mail queue (every decent MTA
> should be able to do that unconditionally) a
On 6/13/06, Steve Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But what will Mailman do when I send to 20,000 and the milter starts
> temp-failing after the limit is reached? Does it see these as bounces? Will
> it insert the pending emails into the sendmail queue or fail?
>
Assuming your MTA returns a f
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:06 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote:
[...]
> Does anyone have a suggestion for throttling?
Just store the 22.000 outgoing mails in the mail queue (every decent MTA
should be able to do that unconditionally) and wait for the next queue
run?
Bernd
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Firmix Software Gmb
I may have a need to throttle the output of a list which sends out about
22,000 emails when called upon. I have tried the milter-limit from Snert,
and it seems to work, but since this is designed mostly for incoming-limits
as opposed to outgoing, I'm not sure what the consequences are for Mailma
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