Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription settings not taking

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 2:08 PM -0800 2006-02-15, Beartooth wrote: > >> I hope it didn't sound like I was trying to teach you to suck >> eggs. > > No, I didn't take any offense at what you had said. I was > trying to explain my personal perspective and the issue

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription settings not taking

At 2:08 PM -0800 2006-02-15, Beartooth wrote: > I hope it didn't sound like I was trying to teach you to suck > eggs. No, I didn't take any offense at what you had said. I was trying to explain my personal perspective and the issues I felt needed to be balanced, but I was also t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription settings not taking

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Brad Knowles wrote: >> One effect will be to drive me, and doubtless some rising >> number of others, as baby boomers retire and get into other >> activities, off your lists. Gmane's great virtue is that it's a lot >> simpler to monitor than trying to cope with list ar

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At 8:37 AM -0500 2006-02-15, Charles Marcus wrote: >> IIRC, we asked them to stop mirroring the mailman-* mailing lists >> a while back, and if they have stealthed back into the system, then >> we need to look at banning all Gmane addresses from contacting any of >> the python.org sites throug

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At 5:35 AM -0800 2006-02-15, Beartooth wrote: > Yes. As you doubtless know, they accept nominations from > anyone, but ask the nominator to refrain except with permission of the > list; iirc, they used to check, too, but it's been quite a while. Therein lies the problem. Whomever

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> If you're talking about posting to the mailman-users and/or > mailman-developers lists from a Gmane hosted newsgroup, then we need > to have a talk with them again. > > IIRC, we asked them to stop mirroring the mailman-* mailing lists > a while back, and if they have stealthed back into the s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription settings not taking

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Brad Knowles wrote: > If you're talking about posting to the mailman-users and/or > mailman-developers lists from a Gmane hosted newsgroup, then we need > to have a talk with them again. Yes. As you doubtless know, they accept nominations from anyone, but ask

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At 1:42 PM -0800 2006-02-14, Beartooth wrote: > Background: I run two addresses -- the one which I believe Gmane has > started letting me post from, Beartooth (at) adelphia.net (which is the > one my newsreader uses) -- and the one I'm using now, karhunhammas (at) > Lserv.com. It is this

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Beartooth wrote: > > Background: I run two addresses -- the one which I believe >Gmane has started letting me post from, Beartooth (at) adelphia.net >(which is the one my newsreader uses) -- and the one I'm using now, >karhunhammas (at) Lserv.com. It is this one I now have subscribed and

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Beartooth wrote: >> >> OK, will do. Will they want the URL of the subscription site, >> do you think, or the info about the type of cookie it sets, or >> both? > > The actual Set-Cookie: header is described in my post at >

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Beartooth wrote: > > OK, will do. Will they want the URL of the subscription site, >do you think, or the info about the type of cookie it sets, or both? The actual Set-Cookie: header is described in my post at . The

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Beartooth wrote: > >> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >>> Can you ask Opera to show you all the cookies it currently has? If >>> so, go to your options page and log in and then see if Opera has >>> the cookie from mail.python.org. >> >> I

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Beartooth wrote: >On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Can you ask Opera to show you all the cookies it currently has? If >> so, go to your options page and log in and then see if Opera has the >> cookie from mail.python.org. > > Interesting. It does not. And I don't know why not.

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Sorry. What I was trying to say is that Mailman sets the cookie in > such a way that it will be returned only to URLs of the form > , and not for example to a URL > such as . This is

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Beartooth wrote: >On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Beartooth wrote: >>> >>> First, though, in case it obviates any time or effort, a >>> couple of Opera details. I have mine set to treat normal cookies as >>> specified in Server Manager, and to accept only cookies set to the >>> se

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Beartooth wrote: >> >> First, though, in case it obviates any time or effort, a >> couple of Opera details. I have mine set to treat normal cookies as >> specified in Server Manager, and to accept only cookies set to the >> server itself. Could the tr

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Beartooth wrote: > > First, though, in case it obviates any time or effort, a >couple of Opera details. I have mine set to treat normal cookies as >specified in Server Manager, and to accept only cookies set to the >server itself. Could the trouble be there? As I indicated in my previous

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Brad Knowles wrote: > I have never heard of anyone having cookie problems with the > Mailman installation on mail.python.org, at least not anything > specific to a particular browser. If you would like to do some live > debugging, let me know and I'll be glad to sche

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At 3:15 PM -0800 2006-02-13, Beartooth wrote: > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> If you're sure your browser is accepting cookies, it may be that a >> local firewall or something similar is interfering with setting and >> returning cookies. > > I doubt that, intensely. But I

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beartooth wrote: > >It did take from Epiphany. So what do I tell the people in opera.general, >over on news.opera.no, who'll be able to do something about it? Just that >setting the subscription options worked with Epiphany but not Opera, or is >there something else I'm not getting? When you log

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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:15:02 -0800, Beartooth wrote: > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] >> Most of the other reasons for this kind of behavior are on the server >> side, but in this case, we know the server side works as long as you >> accept and return the cookie. It did take from E

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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > If you're sure your browser is accepting cookies, it may be that a > local firewall or something similar is interfering with setting and > returning cookies. I doubt that, intensely. But I know some sites have trouble with Opera and session c

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Beartooth wrote: > I go to http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users > >give it my address, in the unsubscribe/change options box > get the >password screen, and give it my password > get to the options page, >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users > make changes

[Mailman-Users] Subscription settings not taking

I go to http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users > give it my address, in the unsubscribe/change options box > get the password screen, and give it my password > get to the options page, http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users > make changes > click on Submit My