Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:59 PM -0400 2006-07-11, Harold Goldstein wrote: > yes, exactly ... sorry about not being more specific ... i am wondering if > anyone else has this experience oft he list =-owner being spammed in this > manner Yup. Happens to me all the time. > and if there is anyway to guard ag

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Dragon
Patrick Bogen sent the message below at 13:08 7/11/2006: >On 7/11/06, Dragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Such "obfuscation" is virtually useless. It is a pretty trivial >>exercise to write a Perl program to collect e-mail addresses from >>such schemes (I could do it in a matter of less than an ho

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Bogen wrote: > >FWIW, the mini-turing-test ideas seem fairly reasonable, if you build >in enough variations. >E.g.,: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove fish) Yes, but what do you do when [EMAIL PROTECTED] threatens to sue you over all the spam she gets because you published her address? :-) --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 7/11/06, Dragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Such "obfuscation" is virtually useless. It is a pretty trivial > exercise to write a Perl program to collect e-mail addresses from > such schemes (I could do it in a matter of less than an hour to cover > all of the common variations). Same goes for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Dragon
Ron Brogden sent the message below at 12:47 7/11/2006: >Most lists seem to display the real address anyway so I am not sure how much >this obfuscation step really helps: > >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > >"Mailman-Users list run by barry at python.org, brad at python.org,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Ron Brogden
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 12:39, Patrick Bogen wrote: > This somehow subverts the purpose of that address, though, which is to > allow outside persons to easily contact the owner of the list, without > necessarily knowing anything about the list. Most lists seem to display the real address anyway so

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 7/11/06, Ron Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My personal solution to this issue was to only allow posts to that address > from the machine itself. After adding that rule to the Exim configuration > the amount of Mailman injected spam I have to deal with dropped by at least > 80% percent.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Ron Brogden
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 07:52, Harold Goldstein wrote: > here is the header of a spam received this morning by 2 of us listed as > pptc-announce-owner ... > it is not being directed to the list itself. My personal solution to this issue was to only allow posts to that address from the machine it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 7/11/06, Harold Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, exactly ... sorry about not being more specific ... i am wondering if > anyone else has this experience oft he list =-owner being spammed in this > manner and if there is anyway to guard against it. I think that the usual anti-spam me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Harold Goldstein
At 12:49 PM 7/11/2006, Patrick Bogen wrote: >On 7/11/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Is there a question here, or is this perhaps an off-list thread that >>sudddenly bacame public? > >I think Harold is asking why the spam was directed to >pptc-announce-owner. From the headers (I may or

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Bogen wrote: > >I think Harold is asking why the spam was directed to >pptc-announce-owner. From the headers (I may or may not be >interpreting correctly), it looks like the message was directly >addressed to pptc-announce-owner. Yes. The spam was sent From: "Jeffrey Lyon" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 7/11/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a question here, or is this perhaps an off-list thread that > sudddenly bacame public? Not my doing, this time. It's as new to me as it is to you. I think Harold is asking why the spam was directed to pptc-announce-owner. From the head

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Harold Goldstein wrote: >here is the header of a spam received this morning by 2 of us listed as >pptc-announce-owner ... >it is not being directed to the list itself. >i shouldmention that a month ago the list was spammed before i marked to >discard unauthorized posts Is there a question here

[Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Harold Goldstein
here is the header of a spam received this morning by 2 of us listed as pptc-announce-owner ... it is not being directed to the list itself. i shouldmention that a month ago the list was spammed before i marked to discard unauthorized posts ---