Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-22 Thread Brad Knowles
On 3/22/08, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > My experience matches yours: I think we're all walking around with various > (differing) lists of role mailbox names that we picked up over time. > Do you think it'd be worth the effort to attempt to bring all those > together, figure out which ones are worth

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-22 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:56:07PM -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: > On 3/20/08, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > > (Incidentally, I'm not aware of any current effort to update RFC 2142.) > > Not any current efforts to update 2142, no. But there are other > standard role mailbox names that I've seen used a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-20 Thread Brad Knowles
On 3/20/08, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > (Incidentally, I'm not aware of any current effort to update RFC 2142.) Not any current efforts to update 2142, no. But there are other standard role mailbox names that I've seen used and recommended, although I have not yet been able to locate a source for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-20 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 05:34:18PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On python.org this is postmaster. Do many sites split the > responsibilities between mail and list care and feeding? I know that some do, some don't; but beyond that, I don't have much of a feel for how it's done across the 'net.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-20 Thread Brad Knowles
On 3/19/08, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > While I'm blabbing about this, I'd like to float another idea > related to RFC 2142. We have postmaster (mail), webmaster (web) > and quite often hostmaster (DNS). There's a hell of a lot more than that, and 2142 is not the only RFC to be looking at for thi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-20 Thread Brad Knowles
On 3/19/08, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On python.org this is postmaster. Do many sites split the > responsibilities between mail and list care and feeding? Some sites do, but on the ones I run I usually have a separate listmaster and postmaster address anyway. -- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > Do many sites split the responsibilities between mail and list > care and feeding? I suspect that it's pretty common in cases where people get a VMware guest OS or soemthing like that. The hosting company / ISP is going to want to keep close watch on port 25, but list an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 19, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > While I'm blabbing about this, I'd like to float another idea > related to RFC 2142. We have postmaster (mail), webmaster (web) > and quite often hostmaster (DNS). How about listmaster, which > wou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-19 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:10:30PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: > Ok, thanks. It sounds like I can safely prune admin, subscribe, > unsubscribe, join, and leave. That leaves bounces, confirm, owner, and > request, which I can tolerate dealing with manually. I certainly agree with keeping -reques

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-17 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Monday, March 17, 2008 6:53 PM -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'join' and 'leave' are synonyms for 'subscribe' and 'unsubscribe'. Jo > Rhett would say you don't need any of these because nearly everyone > uses the web. He might also say you don't need/want 'request' and > 'con

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kenneth Porter wrote: >I want to remove aliases from my mailman installation to avoid spam >backscatter. Which aliases do I absolutely need? > >Here's a list from mm-handler: > >@ValidActions = qw(admin bounces confirm join leave > owner request subscribe unsubscribe); You do

[Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-17 Thread Kenneth Porter
I want to remove aliases from my mailman installation to avoid spam backscatter. Which aliases do I absolutely need? Here's a list from mm-handler: @ValidActions = qw(admin bounces confirm join leave owner request subscribe unsubscribe); --