[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

On 4/3/21 1:59 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Note that in those cases where the provider sends examples of > "problematic" mail from your server but redacts customer > identification, there are ways to "fingerprint" the message which the > providers usually don't touch. Basically, add a head

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

Jon Baron writes: > I think what I have just said speaks to your question. If not, then I don't > understand your question. It wasn't a question. It was a statement that a technical solution exists that might be useful to some site administrators in relatively unusual circumstances. > Now fo

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

Dear Stephen and Morris, Regarding your first post, I do not see the kind of Digital Ocean problems that you have. In the past, I have had other problems, mostly a botnet that was trying to guess passwords for WordPress (nonexistent), for many months. Concerning your second email, below, this has

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

Morris Jones writes: > [AT&T are opaque about their standards and process, and don't > provide any means to respond or unsubscribe their customers who > don't want your mail. This is the basic issue. Email users generally put more pressure on providers about "spam" (including stuff they've si

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

Carl Zwanzig writes: > On 3/30/2021 9:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > I had two servers blocked by ATT, fortunately not this one. They were > > both DigitalOcean droplets,[...] > > FWIW, a couple of my regular correspondents have said that DO generally does > not have a great email reputation

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

It appears that Mark Sapiro said: >> FWIW, a couple of my regular correspondents have said that DO generally >> does not have a great email reputation, and that they're moving lists to >> other platforms. > >That's probably correct, but are there other cloud VPS providers that >are better at hosti

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

At Tue, 30 Mar 2021 14:14:57 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 3/30/21 1:50 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > At Tue, 30 Mar 2021 10:41:47 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > >> That's probably correct, but are there other cloud VPS providers that > >> are better at hosting MTAs? > > > > Almost certainly

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 14:14 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 3/30/21 1:50 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > At Tue, 30 Mar 2021 10:41:47 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > > > That's probably correct, but are there other cloud VPS providers that > > > are better at hosting MTAs? > > > > Almost certainly. >

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Hi Vince, I thought OVH’s spam volume would reduce after one of their data centers in Strassburg burnt down - but it didn’t? See, for example, . :-( Christian -- Christian Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerl

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

On 3/30/21 1:50 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > At Tue, 30 Mar 2021 10:41:47 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> That's probably correct, but are there other cloud VPS providers that >> are better at hosting MTAs? > > Almost certainly. Any suggestions/recommendations? -- Mark Sapiro The highway

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

At Tue, 30 Mar 2021 10:41:47 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 3/30/21 9:33 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > > On 3/30/2021 9:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> I had two servers blocked by ATT, fortunately not this one. They were > >> both DigitalOcean droplets,[...] > > > > FWIW, a couple of my regular co

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

Digital Ocean has a truly crappy reputation with us.  We now block by IP address (knowing the problems) because of lack of cooperation from DO. Same for OVH.  The email world would be better off without DO and OVH. On 2021/03/30 11:33 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 3/30/2021 9:28 AM, Mark Sapir

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

On 3/30/21 1:41 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 3/30/21 9:33 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 3/30/2021 9:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I had two servers blocked by ATT, fortunately not this one. They were both DigitalOcean droplets,[...] FWIW, a couple of my regular correspondents have said that DO generally

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

On 3/30/21 10:33 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 3/30/2021 9:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I had two servers blocked by ATT, fortunately not this one. They were both DigitalOcean droplets,[...] FWIW, a couple of my regular correspondents have said that DO generally does not have a great email reputati

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

On 3/30/21 9:33 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > On 3/30/2021 9:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I had two servers blocked by ATT, fortunately not this one. They were >> both DigitalOcean droplets,[...] > > FWIW, a couple of my regular correspondents have said that DO generally > does not have a great email

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

On 3/30/2021 9:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I had two servers blocked by ATT, fortunately not this one. They were both DigitalOcean droplets,[...] FWIW, a couple of my regular correspondents have said that DO generally does not have a great email reputation, and that they're moving lists to other

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

On 3/30/2021 8:40 AM, Jayson Smith wrote: I know there was a thread on this a few weeks ago, but I deleted those messages. My server has found itself, for no apparent reason, on AT&T's RBL. I've already written to abuse_...@abuse-att.net as suggested in the error message. I assume the upshot

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

On 3/30/21 8:40 AM, Jayson Smith wrote: > Hi, > > > I know there was a thread on this a few weeks ago, but I deleted those > messages. This list has searchable archives at . A quick search for `att bounce` will find several posts i