Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-05-16 Thread Stefan Förster
* Jesper Dybdal wrote: > If anybody should be interested, I've placed the modified patch, > directly usable for 2.1.11, at > http://www.dybdal.dk/mailman-2.1.11-postfix-verp.patch Uh oh. I remember that patch, I've even tested it (German: http://www.incertum.net/archives/307-Postfix,-Mailman-und-

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-05-14 Thread Brad Knowles
on 5/14/09 7:58 PM, Mark Sapiro said: Normally, I would defer to you for all things MTA as your knowledge and experience in this area are far greater than mine, but I have been under the impression that if an MTA has two or more messages to deliver to the the same remote MX, that it can and perh

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-05-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: > >This is a postfix problem. Find the sites that cause the problems, and set >up separate queues for them, with different parallelism and >re-queueing/re-try schedules. Brad, Normally, I would defer to you for all things MTA as your knowledge and experience in this area a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-05-13 Thread Brad Knowles
Fil wrote: As the emails are sent one by one the connection rate to these systems can get very high, and we get delayed. Ideas? Having postfix do your VERP'ing for you isn't going to help. Mailman needs to know what VERP was used going out, so that it can match that when the bounce comes b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-05-13 Thread Fil
Hi, the VERP system is good to detect bounces, but it has issues when lots of subscribers are on the same server: (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to smtp..xxx.xxx[x]: Connection timed out) (host mx01..xxx[x] refused to talk to me: 421 4.3.2 Connection rate limit excee

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-01-31 Thread Jesper Dybdal
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:29:19 +0100, Fil wrote: [About using Postfix' built-in VERP mechanism with Mailman] >One thing to note: local addresses such as mine (f...@rezo.net is >defined in /etc/postfix/virtual as an alias for rec...@gmail.com) will >be VERPed to test-bounces+recifs=gmail.com and not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-01-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Fil wrote: > >I'm trying to document the VERP stuff, and I'm at a loss finding where >scripts/bounces exploits the VERP information on bounces. >scripts/bounces mentions VERP but does not actually process the info All scripts/bounces does is queue the bounce message for BounceRunner. The actual p

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-01-05 Thread Fil
Hello, I'm trying to document the VERP stuff, and I'm at a loss finding where scripts/bounces exploits the VERP information on bounces. scripts/bounces mentions VERP but does not actually process the info -- Fil -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-01-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jesper Dybdal wrote: > >I am afraid there is nothing "official" about any home I can give to >anything. Post the patch and a brief write-up to the tracker at . -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter us

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-01-03 Thread Jesper Dybdal
[My apologies to Fil for first sending this to him only - it was intended for the list] On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:29:19 +0100, Fil wrote: >One thing to note: local addresses such as mine (f...@rezo.net is >defined in /etc/postfix/virtual as an alias for rec...@gmail.com) will >be VERPed to test-boun

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-01-03 Thread Fil
Another difference to mention in the README is that the postfix logs will show the normal (unVERPed) addresses instead of the VERPed addresses: Jan 3 16:28:09 alan postfix/qmgr[17364]: 4754D3B05C7: from=, size=3082, nrcpt=4 (queue active) Jan 3 16:28:10 alan postfix/smtp[27894]: 4754D3B05C7:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-01-03 Thread Fil
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > VERP_PROBES = Yes > VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes > VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes > VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 > VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes > VERP_STYLE = 'Postfix' Yay, it works, takk. One thing to note: local addresses such as mine (f..

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-01-03 Thread Jesper Dybdal
Hi Fil, On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:07:20 +0100, Fil wrote: >I've done the following, with little success so far: >1) applied your patch to Mailman/Defaults.py and Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py >2) added the 2 configuration lines in Mailman/mm_cfg.py >3) restarted mailman :-) >4) added to /etc/postfi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-01-03 Thread Fil
Hi Jesper, I've done the following, with little success so far: 1) applied your patch to Mailman/Defaults.py and Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py 2) added the 2 configuration lines in Mailman/mm_cfg.py 3) restarted mailman :-) 4) added to /etc/postfixmain.cf the line smtpd_authorized_verp_clients

[Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

2009-01-03 Thread Jesper Dybdal
I've just installed Mailman version 2.1.11. I was surprised to find that the standard distribution had no support for the Postfix VERP feature, which can create VERP return paths much more efficiently than when Mailman does it itself. I did find a patch for the FreeBSD port of an earlier Mailman