Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-24 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:41 AM -0400 2004-10-24, Rich West wrote: So, I guess it is a toss up as to having VERP enabled with one SMTP connection per transaction or disabling VERP and setting the SMTP max sessions per connection to 0 (unlimited)... Recommendations/suggestions? :) It's a classic performance versus

Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-23 Thread Rich West
Mark Sapiro wrote: o In the sendmail logs, I get (just do the normal replacements for the words "at" and "dot"): Oct 23 21:26:08 cranium sm-mta[13718]: i9O1Q8EF013718: from=, size=1421, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] The above envelope from is VERP

Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Rich West wrote: >Even more info.. the problem is definitely unpredictable.. Maybe... >Here's some tests I performed with a newly created test mailing list. >Test 1 >o Added one person, me, to the list. >o Sent a message to the list. >o Received the posting. No errors or anything were reported

Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-23 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:48 PM -0400 2004-10-23, Rich West wrote: Again, is there any way to "turn up" the logging or something.. anything.. within mailman? The logs, so far, are pretty much useless in that they simply echo that DSN error.. Regretfully, unless you want to go into the Mailman source code and add

Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-23 Thread Rich West
Even more info.. the problem is definitely unpredictable.. Here's some tests I performed with a newly created test mailing list. Test 1 o Added one person, me, to the list. o Sent a message to the list. o Received the posting. No errors or anything were reported in sendmail's logs or mailman's lo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-23 Thread Rich West
Nope.. looks like the problem is still there, and it is only happening with mailman. I cannot express just how frustrating this is since I cannot seem to squeeze any additional information out of mailman.. it just seems to be a big black hole.. :( Prior to removing and re-adding the list, one

Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-22 Thread Rich West
I *think* I might have found my problem.. :) After doing some searching in /var/log/messages, I came across that particular message ID, and saw the corresponding DSN error. I then hit the net searching with regards to the DSN error, and came across a number of postings suggesting that a hostname

Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-22 Thread Rich West
Like I said, it works fine via smtp and the only app complaining is mailman. :) I don't know how to 'turn up' the logging on mailman in order to dig further to see what it is doing.. Also, the email you sent was direct, via SMTP, to the server.. the same server that mailman sits on.. Not sure

Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:32 PM -0400 2004-10-22, Rich West wrote: Now, that is just plain strange since that is *my* account. :) And it is (and has been for a LONG time) defined in /var/mail/virtusertable... Weird.. any ideas as to why that is popping up? This looks like an MTA problem. -- Brad Knowles, <[EMA

Re: [Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-22 Thread Chip Mefford
Rich West wrote: Interesting.. in investigating another problem, I noticed the following in the smtp-error file: Oct 22 12:14:49 2004 (4223) All recipients refused: {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': (550, '5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown')}, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doesn't look like a mailman p

[Mailman-Users] Odd smtp-error

2004-10-22 Thread Rich West
Interesting.. in investigating another problem, I noticed the following in the smtp-error file: Oct 22 12:14:49 2004 (4223) All recipients refused: {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': (550, '5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown')}, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oct 22 12:14:49 2004 (4223) delivery to [EMAIL