Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Matzura
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:11:40 -0400, Mark wrote: >>RedHat's /etc/init.d/mailman copies the cron/crontab.in to >>/etc/cron.d/mailman. So if you start Mailman via 'service mailman >>start', the crontab in crontab.in will be installed. It's done in the Mailman service definition, which means the cron

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Matzura
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:17:23 -0700, you wrote: >RedHat's /etc/init.d/mailman copies the cron/crontab.in to >/etc/cron.d/mailman. So if you start Mailman via 'service mailman >start', the crontab in crontab.in will be installed. > >At least that's the way I *think* it works. Ask RedHat or look at t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/06/2015 08:10 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, Mark Sapiro > wrote: > >> In your case, the RedHat package has modified Mailman's crontab.in to be >> a system crontab and already installed it in /etc/cron.d/. > > It did, but the file is virtually empty (only th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-06 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: >In your case, the RedHat package has modified Mailman's crontab.in to be >a system crontab and already installed it in /etc/cron.d/. It did, but the file is virtually empty (only three or four comment lines warning not to edit it and that i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 10:19 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > Right. And it was wrong of RH not to tell me that up front, or if it > does, it didn't jump up and tell me. Sometimes there's just so much to > read and digest, and much of it has to be done after the fact. I'll > comb their docs and if it's not pre

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, you wrote: >On 07/04/2015 08:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> >> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro >> wrote: >> >>> These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been >>> formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 08:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro > wrote: > >> These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been >> formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a place >> like /etc/cron.d/mailman as a user contab som

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
This should have gone to the list instead of where it went. On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Shapiro wrote: >These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been >formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a place >like /etc/cron.d/mailman as a user contab s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 06:36 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > I guess things are getting better with my new mailman implementation, > as I received nine messages overnight I've never gotten before. four > are Errno 13 permission denied, five only contain one line: > > /bin/sh: mailman: command not found > > The

[Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
I guess things are getting better with my new mailman implementation, as I received nine messages overnight I've never gotten before. four are Errno 13 permission denied, five only contain one line: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found The subject fields of these five all begin with the same text