Re: [Mailman-Users] Manipulate mailman in / out queue

2012-10-19 Thread Xueshan Feng
Hi Mark, Thank you so much for taking the time to explain the details of queue process, the meaning of the file names in the queue, and what's the right way to handle files in the queue (like mv vs. cp). I have been managing campus mailing service for a long time. Once in a while we got mailb

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manipulate mailman in / out queue

2012-10-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: >Xueshan Feng wrote: > >>The real operational question here is each time if we have to stop / start >>mailman to move files, than for large volume queues, it would take a lot >>of manual process. The procedure I have used is: >> >>- stop mailman >>- move queue files or .bak fil

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manipulate mailman in / out queue

2012-10-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
Xueshan Feng wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> This is really more involved than I can explain without a keyboard which I >> won't have before Tues eve, but there should be only one .bak file or one >> per slice if the runner is sliced. This is the message currentl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manipulate mailman in / out queue

2012-10-15 Thread Xueshan Feng
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Xueshan Feng wrote: > > >On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > >> Xueshan Feng wrote: > > > >if I want to move quite a few *.bak aside (use timestamp as an > >indicator of > >how long they've been in that state), Is it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manipulate mailman in / out queue

2012-10-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Xueshan Feng wrote: >On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Xueshan Feng wrote: > >if I want to move quite a few *.bak aside (use timestamp as an >indicator of >how long they've been in that state), Is it necessary to stop the >service, move files, then restart service? >We

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manipulate mailman in / out queue

2012-10-15 Thread Xueshan Feng
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Xueshan Feng wrote: > > >Can you do that (drop in files, or move the files out), while the > >service > >is running, without crashing service or losing data. > > > Probably yes, but don't. > > Either OutgoingRunner has died (check Mailman's q

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manipulate mailman in / out queue

2012-10-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Xueshan Feng wrote: >Can you do that (drop in files, or move the files out), while the >service >is running, without crashing service or losing data. Probably yes, but don't. Either OutgoingRunner has died (check Mailman's qrunner log) or your out queue is backlogged. If there is a bad messa

[Mailman-Users] Manipulate mailman in / out queue

2012-10-15 Thread Xueshan Feng
Is it safe to move files in and out of the mailman's qfile/in, qfile/out directory while the qrunners are running? We are having an empty 'in' queue, but huge out queue. There might be bad messages stuck somewhere. I saw some posts in past that you can move files to another place, move them back i