Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-19 Thread David Southwell
On Thursday 19 April 2007 06:05:38 Steve Burling wrote: > --On April 18, 2007 9:55:48 PM -0500 Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > In the nearly twenty years I've been doing this sort of stuff, I don't > > think I've ever ran into a single NFS environment that I would call > > "well-man

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-19 Thread Steve Burling
--On April 18, 2007 9:55:48 PM -0500 Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the nearly twenty years I've been doing this sort of stuff, I don't > think I've ever ran into a single NFS environment that I would call > "well-managed". Some were not as badly managed as others, but they all > h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-18 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:19 AM -0400 4/18/07, Steve Burling quoted me: >> This is not a given in NFS server environments. > > To which I reply: > > It's a given in well-managed NFS environments. In the nearly twenty years I've been doing this sort of stuff, I don't think I've ever ran into a single NFS environme

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-18 Thread Martyn Drake
On 18/04/07, Steve Burling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a given in well-managed NFS environments. Just to say that it now works; I've added the relevant network accounts as a member of the mailman group and I can happily do my administrative work without hindrance. Thanks everyone. Regards

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-18 Thread Steve Burling
--On April 18, 2007 1:41:27 AM -0500 Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're talking about a remote server, there is no guarantee that > the same numeric group id number would be used for the same group on > different systems, so even though a given user would appear to be in > the co

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-18 Thread Steve Burling
--On April 17, 2007 6:54:05 PM -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or a user in Mailman's group To which I reply: And this is the answer to the originally-posted question; I do all my Mailman management tasks as "myself", by virtue of the fact that I'm in the mailman group. -- Ste

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-18 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:54 PM -0700 4/17/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> In terms of running the command-line scripts, you really have no >> option -- they have to be run as root or the Mailman user, > > Or a user in Mailman's group If you're talking about a remote server, there is no guarantee that the same numeric

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: > >In terms of running the command-line scripts, you really have no >option -- they have to be run as root or the Mailman user, Or a user in Mailman's group -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use

Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:10 PM +0100 4/17/07, Martyn Drake wrote: > For the purposes of automation, I need to be able to run the various > management scripts neither as root or Mailman (primarily because the > script will be run by a network account not local to the Mailman > machine). What would be the easiest

[Mailman-Users] Managing lists as a non-root/Mailman user

2007-04-17 Thread Martyn Drake
Hello, For the purposes of automation, I need to be able to run the various management scripts neither as root or Mailman (primarily because the script will be run by a network account not local to the Mailman machine). What would be the easiest way of doing this? Create a network group called M