Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > Now, how much you might want to take from this and incorporate into > the pages at list.org/gnu.org, I would say that would be up to you. > If there are any other changes you'd like made to the li

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

At 9:38 AM -0800 12/18/06, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > Brad- I like those descriptions, although I might further clarify that > "uesrs" doesn't mean people sending mail through mailman, it means > people installing/managing/troubleshooting mailman. Good point. I'll make that change. > Also, could

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

In a flurry of recycled electrons, Brad Knowles wrote: > Well, I updated the listinfo page for mailman-users in three places. > The first paragraph now reads: > > This mailing list is for users and other parties interested > in the Mailman mailing list management system, as provided

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

At 11:46 PM -0500 12/15/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> There's two places where the mailing lists are described. One place >> is on the web pages at list.org (and mirrored at gnu.org), and one is >> within the Mailman listinfo description itself. Only Barry can >> change the description at list.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Todd Zullinger writes: > I agree that if someone comes here with questions that are obviously > very dependent on some customization that their vendor has made that > they should be directed to check with the vendor. (Same goes for > users who need more basic help learning to use their OS of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 15, 2006, at 9:40 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > There's two places where the mailing lists are described. One place > is on the web pages at list.org (and mirrored at gnu.org), and one is > within the Mailman listinfo description itself. Only Bar

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

At 8:40 PM -0600 12/15/06, Brad Knowles wrote: > That said, I will make an effort to find and correct all entries > where this is misspelled. I probably wrote most of them, so I have > the responsibility to make sure that they are correct. Found and corrected, in a surprising number of places

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

At 8:53 AM -0400 12/15/06, Pierre Igot wrote: > IMPORTANT: Please note that the correct spelling for Mac OS X and > Mac OS X Server is with a space between the "Mac" and the "OS". Those of us who have a long history with Mac OS (like, back to the days of the single floppy disk Mac Plus) will t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Todd Zullinger writes: > > > Nothing wrong with that. It's why open source is so nice. I have > > the choice to find vendors and projects that share more of my > > values than others may. If FHS compliance is really important to > > you, you'll like the Red Hat mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

On 06-12-14, at 22:40, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:59 PM -0400 12/13/06, Pierre Igot wrote: > >>> >> req=show&file=faq01.021.htp> >> >> I am aware of this page and checked it before sending my request for >> help. The page didn't provide any informa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Todd Zullinger writes: > Nothing wrong with that. It's why open source is so nice. I have the > choice to find vendors and projects that share more of my values than > others may. If FHS compliance is really important to you, you'll like > the Red Hat mailman packages. The problem is that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:20 PM -0500 12/14/06, Todd Zullinger wrote: > >> But what value would MacOSX specific integrations be to the >> Mailman project? > > Well, if they fed their changes back to us, that would allow us to > incorporate that into future versions of the software, which woul

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

At 10:20 PM -0500 12/14/06, Todd Zullinger wrote: > But what value would MacOSX specific integrations be to the Mailman > project? Well, if they fed their changes back to us, that would allow us to incorporate that into future versions of the software, which would then be trivially easy for t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Brad Knowles wrote: > Even if they have made the source code available for everything > they've done with regards to Mailman (which includes all their > proprietary management tools), this is not the same thing as > contributing that code back to the Mailman project. But what value would MacOSX

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

At 10:59 PM -0400 12/13/06, Pierre Igot wrote: >> > > I am aware of this page and checked it before sending my request for > help. The page didn't provide any information that addressed my > issue, as far as I could tell.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Pierre Igot wrote: > >Believe it or not, I did check the FAQ before submitting my request. > >Try searching for all keywords "message stuck qfiles/in" or simply >for "qfiles" in the FAQ, for example. It doesn't return anything that >would have helped in my case. I believe you did check the FAQ, a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

At 5:32 PM -0500 12/14/06, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Apple does provide the source code for their mailman packages. You > can browse it here: Even if they have made the source code available for everything they've done with regards to Mailman (which includes all their proprietary management to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Todd Zullinger writes: > Brad Knowles wrote: > > We can tell you what the Mailman-standard was is to start them, but > > Apple has created their own code to manage this aspect of Mailman > > operations and they haven't shared that with us. > > Apple does provide the source code for their m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Brad Knowles wrote: > We can tell you what the Mailman-standard was is to start them, but > Apple has created their own code to manage this aspect of Mailman > operations and they haven't shared that with us. Apple does provide the source code for their mailman packages. You can browse it here:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

At 2:03 PM -0400 12/14/06, Pierre Igot wrote: > Believe it or not, I did check the FAQ before submitting my request. I do believe it. > Try searching for all keywords "message stuck qfiles/in" or simply > for "qfiles" in the FAQ, for example. It doesn't return anything that > would have help

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

On 06-12-14, at 13:18, Carl Zwanzig wrote: >> But the reality was that, in all likelihood, this was a pretty basic >> problem that had to do with Mailman itself, that it probably had >> nothing to do with Apple's customizations, and that the most >> efficient way to get help was probably to submi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

[not speaking for Mark, Barry, or really anyone but me] This is really the classic IT problem of unsupported configurations. In a flurry of recycled electrons, Pierre Igot wrote: > But the reality was that, in all likelihood, this was a pretty basic > problem that had to do with Mailman itself

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 14, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Terry Allen wrote: > I sent some docs through to Barry Warsaw a long time back, > but some oif the info contained in it are here: Hi Terry, would you consider fleshing out OS X support on the Mailman wiki? That's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

On 06-12-14, at 03:51, Mark Sapiro wrote: > WRT to mailmanctl, apparently the Mailman qrunners were running at > some > time and then stopped. I don't know how they were started in the first > place or why they stopped. Perhaps a reboot of the server would have > started them again, perhaps not,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

>Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>Pierre Igot wrote: >> >>>On 06-12-13, at 19:31, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> Pierre Igot wrote: > > I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The > version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. > (It's 2.1.2.)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Mark Sapiro wrote: >Pierre Igot wrote: > >>On 06-12-13, at 19:31, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >>> Pierre Igot wrote: I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. (It's 2.1.2.) >>> >>> >>> See

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Pierre Igot wrote: >On 06-12-13, at 19:31, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Pierre Igot wrote: >>> >>> I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The >>> version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. >>> (It's 2.1.2.) >> >> >> See >>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

On 06-12-13, at 19:31, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Pierre Igot wrote: >> >> I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The >> version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. >> (It's 2.1.2.) > > > See >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Pierre Igot wrote: > >I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The >version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. >(It's 2.1.2.) See >I've just started experimenting with ma

[Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messages stuck in qrunner/in folder

Hi, I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. (It's 2.1.2.) I've just started experimenting with mailing lists on this server using Mailman. Things worked fine until I actually got to the stage

[Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server

This was posted on MacInTouch today; it might help the person who was having trouble with Mailman on Mac OS X... A new Apple KB article offers a workaround for a repair permissions problem with mailing lists on Mac OS X Server (apparently