Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-14 Thread Grant Taylor
On 11/13/08 12:33, Brad Knowles wrote: There's your problem. Somehow your watermark got set ridiculously high, or the news server decided to re-number all their articles into a much lower range, and from now until the end of eternity, you're not going to find any "new" articles to pull out of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news... - SOLVED

2008-11-14 Thread Grant Taylor
On 11/13/08 11:53, Mark Sapiro wrote: You may have never seen this because it may be a one-time transient error. Or, if it did show up from cron, it would probably be emailed as output from the cron, which would be sent to 'mailman' unless you have a MAILTO in the crontab, and depending on how

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-14 Thread Grant Taylor
On 11/13/08 13:22, Taylor, Grant wrote: I do believe that sounds completely plausible and is exactly the type of problem that I was thinking was going on. Well very close. It does appear to be related to the ""remembered messages not being correct (as opposed to being corrupted). I just rec

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-13 Thread Grant Taylor
On 11/13/08 12:29, Mark Sapiro wrote: See my previous reply at . (I have now read your reply. I was continuing in the sub-thread with Brad and had not gotten to your message yet, which now I have.) Your problem is the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-13 Thread Brad Knowles
Grant Taylor wrote: Below are the top three and bottom three lines in the fromusenet log file. Oct 15 02:20:03 2008 (3687) comp.mail.sendmail: [20872..42079] Oct 15 02:20:04 2008 (3687) nothing new for list comp.mail.sendmail Oct 15 02:20:04 2008 (3687) comp.mail.sendmail watermark: 33

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Grant Taylor wrote: > >Below are the top three and bottom three lines in the fromusenet log file. > >Oct 15 02:20:03 2008 (3687) comp.mail.sendmail: [20872..42079] >Oct 15 02:20:04 2008 (3687) nothing new for list comp.mail.sendmail >Oct 15 02:20:04 2008 (3687) comp.mail.sendmail waterm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-13 Thread Grant Taylor
On 11/13/08 02:56, Brad Knowles wrote: It sounds like you've already done a lot of the right stuff initially -- tracing packets with tcpdump, etc Beyond that, you kind of just have to get stuck into the Python. 'k I was going for bi-directionality. Using the server interface to accept

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Grant Taylor wrote: > >I can say that I have received an error (that for some reason did not >show up in logs) from gate_news: > >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 284, in ? > main() > File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 266, in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-13 Thread Brad Knowles
Grant Taylor wrote: Any suggestions on how a non Python programmer might start looking for said possible errors? It sounds like you've already done a lot of the right stuff initially -- tracing packets with tcpdump, etc Beyond that, you kind of just have to get stuck into the Python. W

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-12 Thread Grant Taylor
On 11/12/2008 7:54 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: Internally, Mailman acts as an NNTP client to read and post the news, so this is where I would be looking for errors and differences. *nod* Any suggestions on how a non Python programmer might start looking for said possible errors? I had started a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-12 Thread Brad Knowles
Grant Taylor wrote: What do you mean by "... news reader interface ..."? Are you saying that the problem is with the news (NNTP) client that I'm using? If so, I can say for sure that is not the case. Internally, Mailman acts as an NNTP client to read and post the news, so this is where I w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-12 Thread Grant Taylor
On 11/11/2008 9:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: It is cron/gate_news that reads the news group and posts to the list so that is what to check first. Is crond running? Does Mailman's crontab run gate_news every 5 minutes? Yes, both cron (its self) and gate_news (as a cron job) are both running. Als

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-12 Thread Grant Taylor
On 11/11/08 14:20, Brad Knowles wrote: If it had been problems with posting, I would have pointed at your cron job. Since it's problems with reading, that would imply some issue with the news reader interface you've got. What do you mean by "... news reader interface ..."? Are you saying th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-11 Thread Brad Knowles
Huh. That's weird. I could have sworn that gate_news was only used to post messages to the newsgroup, and there was a different method for handling the newsreading. Wild. Learn something new every day. -- Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2008, at 9:22 PM, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: >Grant Taylor wrote: > >> I just tested and can confirm that Mailman is posting messages from the >> mailing list to the news group. So the problem appears to only be with >> sending messages to the mailing list from the news group. > >If it had been problems with posting, I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-11 Thread Brad Knowles
Grant Taylor wrote: I just tested and can confirm that Mailman is posting messages from the mailing list to the news group. So the problem appears to only be with sending messages to the mailing list from the news group. If it had been problems with posting, I would have pointed at your cron

[Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-11 Thread Grant Taylor
Hello... I did a quick search of the mailing list archives and did not see any thing related to this, so I'm sorry if this is a double post. I have been running Mailman 2.1.7 for almost two years with out a problem. I have a mailing list named Sendmail which has the NNTP gateway configured

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is no longer gatewaying news...

2008-11-11 Thread Grant Taylor
On 11/10/08 12:07, Grant Taylor wrote: It appears as if Mailman is just not downloading any news postings from the news server to be gatewayed in to the mailing list. I just tested and can confirm that Mailman is posting messages from the mailing list to the news group. So the problem appears