Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >The comment "... and was distributed to all members" turns out to be >incorrect. Messages from 'new' subscribers are delivered by MailMan >to *some* existing members of the mailing list, but definitely not all >of them. > >The bottom line is that for the moment, our att

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-29 Thread bjames
A correction to the 'analysis' below: --> --> >A message from a newly added subscriber is accepted, logged in the --> --> >archive, and distributed to all the members of the mailing list. --> --> I just reconfirmed this, by adding myself again with yet another new --> address, then sending a mess

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > This can be tricky. LOG_DIR is defined in Defaults.py in terms of > VAR_PREFIX. If VAR_PREFIX is redefined in mm_cfg.py, this will not > redefine LOG_DIR as LOG_DIR was already defined in Defaults.py in > terms of the Defaults.py definition of VAR_PREFIX. 2.1.9's Default

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I do not have direct access to the list server system; I am working > through our ISP's support service. Any suggestions for what I can > tell them to look for I'd suggest just giving them this address. "Support" implies that they know what they are doing, and wil

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 4/27/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Needless to say, this creates a very bad situation when we try to help > cPanel users, since unless the issue is something we specifically > recognize, we don't know whether it is a general Mailman issue or a > cPanel issue, and if it's the latter we can't get

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 > >which my ISP said was "current". I don't know the significance of >the ".cp2", but 2.1.9 is the latest stable release according to >http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103 As Brad points out this is a cPanel releas

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Brad Knowles
On 4/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry, I should have been specific: > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 That's cPanel. See FAQ 6.11. We have no way of verifying what they may have done to the stock Mailman code once they took it and modified it to their purposes. At best, we can try

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread bjames
--> BTW, what do you consider the 'current release' of Mailman? Sorry, I should have been specific: X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 which my ISP said was "current". I don't know the significance of the ".cp2", but 2.1.9 is the latest stable release according to http://sourceforge.net/project/s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't believe it applies in our case. >There are several hundred subscribers on each list, with over 200 >different mail domains (hence many different servers). > >A message from a newly added subscriber is accepted, logged in the >archiv

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread bjames
--> On Thursday 26 April 2007 22:49:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --> > Did you ever find a solution to this issue? --> > --> > I realize that this is a really old posting: --> > --> > I send an eMail to one of the lists, I can see in my /var/log/maillog; --> > --> >Jun 10 11:27:03 osiris s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Rolf E. Sonneveld wrote: > >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> One minor point here. The post log entry is not written until the >> message is delivered by SMTPDirect. >> > >OK, thus only after the message has been delivered to at least one >subscriber (or the first MTA in the chain of delivery to at lea

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
Hello, Mark, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> Fairly early in message processing, Mailman logs to either logs/post >> (showing that the post was accepted) or to logs/vette (indicating that >> the post was held or rejected, and why). >> > > > One minor point here. The po

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >When the post is delivered, > >there will be an entry in logs/smtp for each batch of deliveries > >(usually one per remote host, or one per user if personalization or > >VERP is being used). > > Actually, if nothing goes wrong, there will

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >Fairly early in message processing, Mailman logs to either logs/post >(showing that the post was accepted) or to logs/vette (indicating that >the post was held or rejected, and why). One minor point here. The post log entry is not written until the message is deliver

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Rolf E. Sonneveld writes: > today I have a similar (or the same?) problem. Running Mailman V2.1.9. > Symptoms in my case: a new member (added with the command line utility > add_members) is subscribed properly, the associated mail address gets a > welcome message (so far so good), but mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Did you ever find a solution to this issue? > > I realize that this is a really old posting: > > I send an eMail to one of the lists, I can see in my /var/log/maillog; > >Jun 10 11:27:03 osiris sendmail[2756]: h5A9R392002756: >from=

Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-27 Thread David Southwell
On Thursday 26 April 2007 22:49:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Did you ever find a solution to this issue? > > I realize that this is a really old posting: > > I send an eMail to one of the lists, I can see in my /var/log/maillog; > >Jun 10 11:27:03 osiris sendmail[2756]: h5A9R3920

[Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2007-04-26 Thread bjames
Did you ever find a solution to this issue? I realize that this is a really old posting: I send an eMail to one of the lists, I can see in my /var/log/maillog; Jun 10 11:27:03 osiris sendmail[2756]: h5A9R392002756: from=http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] lists stop working

2006-07-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): File "/usr/local/mailman/ >Mailman/Bouncer.py", line 131, in registerBounce >Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): time.strftime('%d-%b-%Y', >day + (0,)*6)) >Jul 12 16:51:50 2006 qrunner(5860): ValueError : day of yea

Re: [Mailman-Users] lists stop working

2006-07-14 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jul 14, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > >> I have a small mailman (2.1.x) installation with a few lists. They >> just stopped working the other day. I did a mailmanctl restart and >> that did not fix it but a stop and then a start did. I saw nothi

Re: [Mailman-Users] lists stop working

2006-07-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >I have a small mailman (2.1.x) installation with a few lists. They >just stopped working the other day. I did a mailmanctl restart and >that did not fix it but a stop and then a start did. I saw nothing >in the logs to indicate why the lists stopped wor

[Mailman-Users] lists stop working

2006-07-14 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
I have a small mailman (2.1.x) installation with a few lists. They just stopped working the other day. I did a mailmanctl restart and that did not fix it but a stop and then a start did. I saw nothing in the logs to indicate why the lists stopped working. How does one go about debugging t

[Mailman-Users] Lists stop working

2003-06-10 Thread Niklas Nikitin
Hi, I have some problems with my Mailman server. I am running Mailman 2.1.2 (installed from source) on a RedHat 8.0 Linux server (using Sendmail version 8.12.8-5.80). The problem is the following: I send an eMail to one of the lists, I can see in my /var/log/maillog; Jun 10 11:27:03 osiris