Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Greg" == Greg Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Greg> On 04 December 2001, Tass Chapman said: >> Is there a quicker way to remove members than the UI or the >> remove_members tool? I can quickly use emacs to load and find >> the email in the config.db, but I am not sure of t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Jon Carnes
disk subsystem. This should give a 8x to 20x improvement in speed. Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: "J C Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 12/5/01 10:29 AM, "Tass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my issues are just with trying to do member operation .. How long does it take to add/delete an individual member? FWIW, in my experience, the delay isn't mailman. It's disk I/O. Almost all of the time spent in this operation is in Disk I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:29:11 -0500 (EST) tass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my issues are just with trying to do member operation ... it would > nice if you could split it up into smaller sets or have some > direct edit tool that may be faster than remover_members seems to > be. Aye, that's an a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Tass
My issue is not with its sending speed (in fact it still nice and fast) but with sheer management issues. It is a 10K+ list that is for outgoing announcements.. 1-4 week of about 4K... DNS and MTA are non issues.. I have my own name servers and a heavily customized PostFix as well as softupdate

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:28:53 -0500 (EST) tass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SCSI alas is not an option (which is where I think the bottleneck > is). It is an 80GB IBM EIDE hardrive with UDMA66 Celeron 500 > 686class 512M Ram Its a little difficult to say much without knowing how much list traff

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Tass
I don't WANT to it as I suspect it woudl be bad.. but the time wait is getting to be insane at times. My current solution has been to copy it the config.db to a system that deos not emailing (or much of anything else) and do the work there then copy it back.. ugly .,. but I managed to get it sort

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Greg Ward
On 04 December 2001, Tass Chapman said: > Is there a quicker way to remove members than the UI or the remove_members > tool? I can quickly use emacs to load and find the email in the config.db, > but I am not sure of the syntax and am rather loathe to just delete at will. Aieee!! Don't do this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Tass
SCSI alas is not an option (which is where I think the bottleneck is). It is an 80GB IBM EIDE hardrive with UDMA66 Celeron 500 686class 512M Ram I have about 80% disk cap still open On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Jon Carnes wrote: > Could you give us a description of the hardware your server runs on? >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-04 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 00:05:11 -0500 Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could you give us a description of the hardware your server runs > on? I have a feeling that you need to upgrade. You really need > to run off a fast SCSI disk subsystem with lots of open space. RAM is going to be the p

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-04 Thread Jon Carnes
Could you give us a description of the hardware your server runs on? I have a feeling that you need to upgrade. You really need to run off a fast SCSI disk subsystem with lots of open space. Jon Carnes On Tuesday 04 December 2001 22:35, Tass Chapman wrote: > I am running Mailman 2.0.6 on a Fr

[Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-04 Thread Tass Chapman
I am running Mailman 2.0.6 on a FreeBSD 4.3 box, and I have a list of some 10K addresses or so. Is there a quicker way to remove members than the UI or the remove_members tool? I can quickly use emacs to load and find the email in the config.db, but I am not sure of the syntax and am rather lo