Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-11-01 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
Sorry for wrong threading but I accidentally deleted the last email here: > One reason is that the server may very well translate the encoding > based on negotiation with the client. (I guess you could argue that Yes, but *if* the encoding is negotatied, a default value makes not that much sense

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-11-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Bernd" == Bernd Petrovitsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Content-Type: header specifying charset=utf-8. For reasons I >> don't understand, the HTML standard says the server provided >> Content-Type: charset takes priority over that specified by an >> HTML META tag. Be

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-31 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 14:05 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > >I actually reported a bug (though it may not sound so): I enter > >(apparently) UTF-8 text (with Firefox it that is important) and it comes > >back disguised (and as part of) ISO-8859-1 text. > >The question is: Whi

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > >I actually reported a bug (though it may not sound so): I enter >(apparently) UTF-8 text (with Firefox it that is important) and it comes >back disguised (and as part of) ISO-8859-1 text. >The question is: Which part is doing something wrong and how to fix it? What happ

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 09:52 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] > As Brad points out in another reply, some of this problem is because > all text entered in the web interface (except for General > Options->info which is a special case) is HTML escaped to prevent XSS > attacks. Mailman arguably goes ove

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > >The problem is that I enter text in the web-interface on a default UTF-8 >system and it is apparently stored as UTF-8. The pages are delivered as >ISO-8859-1 according to the HTTP header and the header in the file. >So the CGI scripts actually should convert correctly t

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:04 PM +0200 2005-10-24, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > The other solution is to use รถ and brothers and blame the ML admin > if he doesn't do so (and put in somwhere into the docs or so). > > There is BTW a similar problem: If I enter " (quotes) in the web > interface, they are converted to "

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 12:52 +0200, Hannah Schroeter wrote: [...] > On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 11:58:37PM +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > >Apparently all of the German translation of Mailman is in ISO-8859-1 (or > >ISO-8859-15) - at least in the standard Debian mailman package. > > >Is there a speci

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-24 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 11:58:37PM +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: >Apparently all of the German translation of Mailman is in ISO-8859-1 (or >ISO-8859-15) - at least in the standard Debian mailman package. >Is there a special reason for not moving to UTF-8 in general? I'd say: YAGNI (Ya a

[Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-10-23 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
Apparently all of the German translation of Mailman is in ISO-8859-1 (or ISO-8859-15) - at least in the standard Debian mailman package. Is there a special reason for not moving to UTF-8 in general? Bernd -- Firmix Software GmbH http://www.firmix.at/ mobil: +43 664 4416