Peter Shute writes:
> Another question is what happens if yahoo groups receive aol
> bounces. They might not use them to disable or unsubscribe members,
> which would limit the damage to just non delivery.
Yahoo! is a proprietary service, not in the habit of telling anybody
what they're doing
> On 1 May 2014, at 12:47 am, "Mark Sapiro" wrote:
>
>> On 04/30/2014 06:20 AM, Larry Finch wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
>>>
>>> Is yahoo doing the same thing for yahoo groups?
>>
>> Yahoo doesn’t have to. Mail from a Yahoo group already has a Yahoo domain in
On 04/30/2014 07:20 AM, Larry Kuenning wrote:
>
> I think the reason Yahoo groups don't have to rewrite the From line is
> that even if the original sender uses an @yahoo address, passing the
> message through a Yahoo groups server won't break the DMARC tests
> because it's still a yahoo server an
On 04/30/2014 06:20 AM, Larry Finch wrote:
>
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
>>
>> Is yahoo doing the same thing for yahoo groups?
>>
>
> Yahoo doesn’t have to. Mail from a Yahoo group already has a Yahoo domain in
> the From field - the group address.
To be more precise, ma
On 4/30/2014 9:20 AM, Larry Finch wrote:
They are also rewriting From: headers in outgoing googlegroups posts
whose original From: address is in a domain with DMARC p=reject.
Is yahoo doing the same thing for yahoo groups?
Yahoo doesn’t have to. Mail from a Yahoo group already has a Yahoo do
On Apr 29, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Craig Gaevert wrote:
> It has been my experience that Yahoo is handling email for pacbell.net,
> sbcglobal.net, hotmail, and yes even Comcast, as well as a business domain
> hosted through sbcglobal - all based on a review of the bounce notices I’ve
> received for
At Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:32:18 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> On 04/29/2014 01:25 PM, Joseph Brennan wrote:
> >
> > I think Gmail is doing the same. It's a touch evil to make mail from
> > aol and yahoo less deliverable than your own... but it's what they asked
> > for.
>
>
> Gmail is honoring D
At Mon, 28 Apr 2014 16:09:43 -0400 (EDT) "Gregori Kurtzman, DDS"
wrote:
>
> Need some insight and help. I have recently taken over a list that is using
> mailman v 2.1.14. And we are getting a lot of bounce notices regarding
> members and de-activation's of their subscriptions due to this. In t
At Tue, 29 Apr 2014 15:55:21 -0400 Conrad G T Yoder
wrote:
>
> On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>
> > Large services
> > like Yahoo, AOL, and Hotmail seem to be respecting the policy despite
> > the adverse effect on their users (ie, getting unsubscribed).
>
> Pretty s
On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
>> On 30 Apr 2014, at 9:32 am, "Mark Sapiro" wrote:
>>
>> They are also rewriting From: headers in outgoing googlegroups posts
>> whose original From: address is in a domain with DMARC p=reject.
>
> Is yahoo doing the same thing for yahoo groups
It has been my experience that Yahoo is handling email for pacbell.net,
sbcglobal.net, hotmail, and yes even Comcast, as well as a business domain
hosted through sbcglobal - all based on a review of the bounce notices I’ve
received for the lists I manage. Other info - my lists are hosted at Soni
> On 30 Apr 2014, at 9:32 am, "Mark Sapiro" wrote:
>
> They are also rewriting From: headers in outgoing googlegroups posts
> whose original From: address is in a domain with DMARC p=reject.
Is yahoo doing the same thing for yahoo groups?
Peter Shute
Jim Popovitch writes:
> In 2 years people will be wondering how DMARC did hardly anything to
> slow miscreants, just like some wondered why SPF, DKIM, PGP, SenderID,
> etc didn't solved all of mankind's problems.
N.B. PGP *would* solve the world's problems if the GPG folks would
spend more ti
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> And think about it. If it were based on the presence of various headers,
> how long to you think it would take the black hats to figure out what
> they were and just put those headers into their phishing mails?
:-) If not that, they the blac
On 04/29/2014 06:46 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
>
> Actually probably not. I think the giveaway is the presense of the various
> list specific headers (X-Mailman-Version:, List-Id:, List-Unsubscribe:,
> List-Archive:, List-Post:, List-Help:, and List-Subscribe:). In other words,
> they are using
On 04/29/2014 01:25 PM, Joseph Brennan wrote:
>
> I think Gmail is doing the same. It's a touch evil to make mail from
> aol and yahoo less deliverable than your own... but it's what they asked
> for.
Gmail is honoring DMARC p=reject, but they have some magic for not
applying it to mail from so
Lindsay Haisley wrote:
They don't have to. All they have to do is respect AOL's and Yahoo's
DMARC p=reject record and bounce non-aligning email from these ESPs
accordingly.
I think Gmail is doing the same. It's a touch evil to make mail from aol
and yahoo less deliverable than your own...
On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 15:18 -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 15:55 -0400, Conrad G T Yoder wrote:
> > On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull
>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Large services like Yahoo, AOL, and Hotmail seem to be respecting
> > > the policy despite the adverse
On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 15:55 -0400, Conrad G T Yoder wrote:
> On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull
> wrote:
>
> > Large services
> > like Yahoo, AOL, and Hotmail seem to be respecting the policy
> despite
> > the adverse effect on their users (ie, getting unsubscribed).
>
> Pretty sur
On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Large services
> like Yahoo, AOL, and Hotmail seem to be respecting the policy despite
> the adverse effect on their users (ie, getting unsubscribed).
Pretty sure Hotmail has not set their dmarc record to reject. Where are you
seeing th
Gregori Kurtzman, DDS writes:
Your address is invalid, I hope
you're reading the list.
> Need some insight and help. I have recently taken over a list that
> is using mailman v 2.1.14. And we are getting a lot of bounce
> notices regarding members and de-activation's of their
> subscriptions
On 04/28/2014 01:09 PM, Gregori Kurtzman, DDS wrote:
> Need some insight and help. I have recently taken over a list that is using
> mailman v 2.1.14. And we are getting a lot of bounce notices regarding
> members and de-activation's of their subscriptions due to this. In the
> bounce notices I
Need some insight and help. I have recently taken over a list that is using
mailman v 2.1.14. And we are getting a lot of bounce notices regarding members
and de-activation's of their subscriptions due to this. In the bounce notices
I get as list manager I see the following 'This message faile
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