Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 12/16/2014 6:40 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have > complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work > with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML format, and > a link be presented in the table of co

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Lucio Chiappetti writes: > > Actually, most Emacs-based MUAs are able to treat digests as folders > > by default. No customizations required. > > Then you are beyond my mark, Not really. My primary MUA is VM, which presents a rather simple menubar & toolbar interface to the average user.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-19 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Lucio Chiappetti writes: > I hope it is allowed to post a few screendumps to demonstrate Unfortunately, Mailman @python.org doesn't pass those, OK, should be here (do not know why first got a different name) http://i62.tinypic.com/2l94j5s.png h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Lucio Chiappetti writes: > I hope it is allowed to post a few screendumps to demonstrate Unfortunately, Mailman @python.org doesn't pass those, and they don't get into mail-archive.com because it's subscribed by mail, not direct from the Mailman daemon. > This satisfies your item 1 in three cl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-19 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
1. Display digest messages in the summary as single messages. Are there any MUAs that can do that? 2. If the user clicks on the digest message, it is opened as a folder, not as a message. As I said before, Alpine can do that or be instructed to do that. I hope it is allowed t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-18 Thread Peter Shute
> On 18 Dec 2014, at 7:22 pm, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Digest messages would actually be a better workflow for your users if > the MUAs bothered to implement: > >1. Display digest messages in the summary as single messages. Are there any MUAs that can do that? >2. If the user c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Shute writes: > They create problems when they reply by constructing the reply by > hand with a different subject line, or by simply replying to the > digest email, with unchanged subject line and quoting the digest in > full. The only reason they use digest mode in the first place is >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-17 Thread Peter Shute
Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > technically speaking, "on arrival" pertains to a mail > delivery agent, and not to a MUA, which may operate when > first entered by the user. Yes. I've done it at the MDA with gmail, Exchange and I think Yahoo. I used to do it in the MUA when I used Outlook Express. T

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-17 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, Peter Shute wrote: On 17 Dec 2014, at 8:58 pm, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I am subscribed in MIME digest mode to all lists which support them. I find they are a great way to receive messages once per day (more or less) without being pestered by single messages as they come.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-17 Thread Peter Shute
> On 17 Dec 2014, at 8:58 pm, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > > I am subscribed in MIME digest mode to all lists which support them. I > find they are a great way to receive messages once per day (more or less) > without being pestered by single messages as they come. . . . > this splits the digest

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-17 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, Andrew Hodgson wrote: I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work with. I am subscribed in MIME digest mode to all lists which support them. I find they are a great way to receive

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Andrew Hodgson writes: > We worked on a new version of the digest plain. > > You should try this template on a test list. > > From: [% fromlist %] > To: [% to %] > Reply-to: [% replyto %] > Subject: [% FILTER qencode %][%|loc(list.name,date)%]%1 Digest %2[%END%] [% > IF total_group > 1

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/16/2014 10:25 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > One would have to create the TOC as text/html rather than text/plain and > add links to the various message parts. These can't be anchor tags. Do > do that would require HTMLifying the entire digest. They could probably > be RFC2393 mid: references th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 12/16/2014 08:56 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: >> --- Original Message - >>> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" >>> Andrew Hodgson writes: I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/16/2014 11:14 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > I don't believe you would need each message as separate MIME parts. For > reference I am going to copy out a template an admin of another list sent me > - they are using Sympa. This is a template they use for doing exactly the > same thing. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Andrew Hodgson writes: > One of the examples I saw from another setup was to use in page > links for each message in the TOC, so the links in the TOC just put > the focus onto the next message. I don't understand what this means in terms of the link's href. It's definitely not a matter of "ju

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Peter Shute
r them. Peter Shute > -Original Message- > From: Mailman-Users > [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pshute=nuw.org...@python.org] > On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson > Sent: Tuesday, 16 December 2014 10:41 PM > To: Mailman Users > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes > > Hi, &g

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Andrew Hodgson writes: > > I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have > > > complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work > > > with. >One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML > format, > > and a link be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/16/2014 08:56 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > --- Original Message - >> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > >> Andrew Hodgson writes: >> >>> I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have >>> complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work >>> with. One reque

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
--- Original Message - > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Andrew Hodgson writes: > > > I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have > > complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work > > with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML > > f

[Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Andrew Hodgson writes: > I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have > complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work > with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML > format, and a link be presented in the table of contents to go to

[Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-16 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hi, I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML format, and a link be presented in the table of contents to go to each message. Can this be do