[Mailman-Users] Digest not being received in a timely fashion

For years our digest has arrived at 9:00 am (PST). In the last six months it has been erratic, arriving at different times during the day. Now, recently it is not arriving for a day, sometimes days. It's pretty useless to our members to have messages from one or two days ago arrive late. I've

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 237, Issue 2

Dig around in their control panel. There should be cron jobs and the ability to enable ssh per "SFTP User". Lots of ads and upsells are in their panel now which hadn't been there before so be careful what you click. >Ugh.  Dream Host does not give me cron job / command line access. I'll >t

[Mailman-Users] Digest on/off via email

Hi, As a list-member I'm unable to turn off digest-mode via email. To: -request@lists. Subject: set digest off Mailman (v 2.1.34) replies with an email (The results of your email commands) but the digest mode does not get set to "Off". /

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 191, Issue 3

Thanks again, Mark! My responses below. > On 1/4/20 5:47 PM, Allan Hansen wrote: >> >> a. The server was set up with the wrong domain name (our fault), so I had to >> add the ‘correct’ one. I had seen the command ‘Add Domain’ in >> the UI and thought that would do it, but Brian kindly sent me a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest mode.

On 1/19/19 2:44 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote: > One of my subscribers is complaining that he cannot activate the digest mode > for his > account. I can find nothing wrong in the admin database. > > Where should I look for this problem? What does the user do and what happens? -- Mark Sapiro

[Mailman-Users] Digest mode.

One of my subscribers is complaining that he cannot activate the digest mode for his account. I can find nothing wrong in the admin database. Where should I look for this problem? Ken Gordon -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members of one domain marked bouncing

Peter Shute writes: > We mostly have the Plain option ticked. Is that RFC 934? And > unticked is Mime? Yes and yes. > I’ll try contacting bigpond, but as a non customer, I suspect I’ll be > ignored at best. True, but you're in a lot better position vis-a-vis petulant bigpond customers if yo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members of one domain marked bouncing

Some services provide a feedback link that you can send a copy of a message to, and those that do generally will white list you get around the problem. Others don't have such a feedback link, and for those I tell the subscribers to try to whitelist the list by adding the related addresses to their

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members of one domain marked bouncing

We mostly have the Plain option ticked. Is that RFC 934? And unticked is Mime? I can’t see an obvious pattern, but I several unticked that aren’t marked bouncing. There are also some ticked that aren’t marked bouncing, but I can tell if these have fixed the problem themselves (if that’s possible),

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members of one domain marked bouncing

Peter Shute writes: > Have you been able to do anything about it? If we can't get their > server to believe it's not spam, we're going to have to take all > these people off digest, and some won't like it. There are two digest formats, MIME and RFC 934 (older and somewhat less robust, but stil

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members of one domain marked bouncing

Have you been able to do anything about it? If we can't get their server to believe it's not spam, we're going to have to take all these people off digest, and some won't like it. I don't know if getting these people to whitelist us would let these emails through, even if it was possible to steer

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members of one domain marked bouncing

I should have mentioned we've done that, and the reason for all of them is " 558 5.7.1 5B04183724647A17 Message content rejected due to suspected spam. IB703 " On 8 August 2018 at 08:45, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 08/07/2018 03:33 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > > > I'm guessing that for some reason, t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members of one domain marked bouncing

On 8/7/18 6:33 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > Recently we've had a lot of members from one particular domain ( > bigpond.com/bigpond.com.au) marked bouncing, and it looks like it's only > digest members who are affected. I haven't checked yet if all digest > members from that domain are affected. We unti

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members of one domain marked bouncing

On 08/07/2018 03:33 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > I'm guessing that for some reason, that mail server thinks our digest > emails are spam. Any ideas what to do about this? Look in the server's mail logs for a reason or if you don't have access or for some reason the bounces are more indirect and no

[Mailman-Users] Digest members of one domain marked bouncing

Recently we've had a lot of members from one particular domain ( bigpond.com/bigpond.com.au) marked bouncing, and it looks like it's only digest members who are affected. I haven't checked yet if all digest members from that domain are affected. We unticked their nomail box, but a few days later th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bogus Subscriptions (was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 172, Issue 6)

[mailto:mailman-users-bounces+adam=agp-llc@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 9:23 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bogus Subscriptions (was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 172, Issue 6) On 06/04/2018 05:48 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I have applied

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bogus Subscriptions (was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 172, Issue 6)

On June 5, 2018 1:22:54 AM UTC, Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 06/04/2018 05:48 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I have applied the attached patch to a couple of installations. We'll >> see if it helps. > > >I have made this a feature contingent on setting > >mm_cfg.BLOCK_SPAMHAUS_LISTED_IP_SUBSCRIBE = Yes > Th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bogus Subscriptions (was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 172, Issue 6)

On 06/04/2018 06:40 PM, Adam Goldberg wrote: > Mark - did you consider generalizing the patch a little bit (so it works with > Spamhaus, but also with other RBLs)? Spamhaus is one RBL provider, but there > are a bunch (and most of them work the same way). Yes, I know, but I wanted something si

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bogus Subscriptions (was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 172, Issue 6)

On 06/04/2018 05:48 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I have applied the attached patch to a couple of installations. We'll > see if it helps. I have made this a feature contingent on setting mm_cfg.BLOCK_SPAMHAUS_LISTED_IP_SUBSCRIBE = Yes and committed it for the next release. -- Mark Sapiro

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bogus Subscriptions (was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 172, Issue 6)

On 06/04/2018 03:27 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > BTW, most of those IPs are listed in the XBL (https://www.spamhaus.org/ > xbl/). I think I'll work on a patch to block signups from IPs in the > XBL and domains in the DBL (https://www.spamhaus.org/dbl/) I just checked against s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bogus Subscriptions (was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 172, Issue 6)

My own production server started getting these a few hours ago. I am currently banning '^support[@+].*' and '^info[@+].*' These are addresses I've banned within the last 2 hours: i...@bitbroker.co.uk i...@btcsolutions.ca support+aal...@bitflyer.com support+adqyy...@coindirect.com support+aog...@c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bogus Subscriptions (was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 172, Issue 6)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, 2018-06-04 at 18:10 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, 2018-06-04 at 14:48 -0700, Russell Clemings wrote: > > They seem to be changing their tactics pretty much regularly now. > > Just > > tailing the subscribe log I see all of these: > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bogus Subscriptions (was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 172, Issue 6)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, 2018-06-04 at 14:48 -0700, Russell Clemings wrote: > They seem to be changing their tactics pretty much regularly now. > Just > tailing the subscribe log I see all of these: > > Jun 04 21:28:16 2018 (16689) LISTNAME1: pending Steven Lugo < >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 172, Issue 6

They seem to be changing their tactics pretty much regularly now. Just tailing the subscribe log I see all of these: Jun 04 21:28:16 2018 (16689) LISTNAME1: pending Steven Lugo < supp...@quickbitcoin.co.uk> 159.203.88.55 Jun 04 21:30:06 2018 (17063) LISTNAME1: pending Steve Asher < supp...@bitcoi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 154, Issue 30

Glen Page writes: > Thanks. I am pretty sure that the only thing I deleted was the > sender name so not sure which header fields you think are missing. I thought MIME-Version was missing, but it's in your post so I must have deleted that early, and forgot I did that. According to Mark his up-t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 154, Issue 30

On 12/20/2016 05:11 AM, Glen Page wrote: > Here is the header info from a message that I got from our Dean. It got > flagged as Spam somewhere along the way. ... > {Spam?} [TA Admin] {Spam?} [Employees] {Spam?} [Claws] {Spam?} SNOWBALL IS > CANCELLED FOR TONIGHT > To: cl...@lists.thet.net st

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 154, Issue 30

Stephen, Thanks. I am pretty sure that the only thing I deleted was the sender name so not sure which header fields you think are missing. I will forward this info on to the consultant that built and maintains both my spam-assassin and mailman builds and see what he can figure out. Thanks agai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 154, Issue 30

Glen Page writes: > We are a Google Apps for Education school so most of our employees > and students are using gmail but with our own thet.net > domain. We have mx records for gmails servers > and for our in house mailman server. Recently edited our DNS zones > due to SPF

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 154, Issue 30

We are a Google Apps for Education school so most of our employees and students are using gmail but with our own thet.net domain. We have mx records for gmails servers and for our in house mailman server. Recently edited our DNS zones due to SPF record check failures. Also, re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option - only get 1 email for all posts in a day?

On 11/17/2016 08:37 AM, Sandeep wrote: > > It appears that digest mode only batches a set number of emails together > (5) in a single digest. So, if a mailing list I am subscribed to, gets 20 > posts in a day, I get 4 emails. Is there a way for me as a subscriber to > get 1 digest email per day, c

[Mailman-Users] Digest option - only get 1 email for all posts in a day?

Hello, It appears that digest mode only batches a set number of emails together (5) in a single digest. So, if a mailing list I am subscribed to, gets 20 posts in a day, I get 4 emails. Is there a way for me as a subscriber to get 1 digest email per day, containing all the posts for that day? You

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

On 09/06/2016 05:59 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > Now that I understand them, I think I'll start using MIME digests them for > myself when I can. And I like offering the option. The question is more, > what would I use as the default? And I think honestly that putting everyone > on MIME digests would

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

On 9/2/2016 6:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 09/02/2016 02:00 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: >> >> I requested a similar feature a while ago: >> >> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2014-December/078192.html > > > And my responses at >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Matt Morgan wrote: Now that I understand them, I think I'll start using MIME digests them for myself when I can. And I like offering the option. The question is more, what would I use as the default? And I think honestly that putting everyone on MIME digests would substantial

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 4:32 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, Matt Morgan wrote: > > The eventual publication looks a lot like a mailman digest, and that's >> what I'm switching it to. >> > > I see that over the weekend there was some discussion about digests, not > only in this t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, Matt Morgan wrote: The eventual publication looks a lot like a mailman digest, and that's what I'm switching it to. I see that over the weekend there was some discussion about digests, not only in this thread ! I understand that mailman can do digests as a series of MIME

Re: [Mailman-Users] digest frequency control

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 09/02/2016 08:59 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: > > I think I understand this but I'm hoping someone can help confirm I got > it > > right. > > > ... > > > > Do I have that all correct? > > > Yes. > > Also, note that the --listname option to senddig

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

On 09/02/2016 02:00 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > I requested a similar feature a while ago: > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2014-December/078192.html And my responses at and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

Behalf Of Matt Morgan Sent: 02 September 2016 17:39 To: Mailman-Users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC? One of the lists I'm now running uses Mailman as an aid to generating a periodical email publication. People send in items for topics, and an editor g

Re: [Mailman-Users] digest frequency control

On 09/02/2016 08:59 AM, Matt Morgan wrote: > I think I understand this but I'm hoping someone can help confirm I got it > right. > ... > > Do I have that all correct? Yes. Also, note that the --listname option to senddigests may be repeated to do multiple named lists. You could implement a --e

[Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

One of the lists I'm now running uses Mailman as an aid to generating a periodical email publication. People send in items for topics, and an editor grafts them into a single large message that goes out about twice a month. The eventual publication looks a lot like a mailman digest, and that's what

[Mailman-Users] digest frequency control

I think I understand this but I'm hoping someone can help confirm I got it right. 1. In the regular digest options, directly controlling the frequency with which a digest gets sent out isn't possible. It can sort of be hacked, though, by turning off digest_send_periodic and turning on digest_size_

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with Mail Delivery - was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 149, Issue 16

'postconf -n'? > 2016-07-12 21:22 GMT+02:00 : > >> Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to >> mailman-users@python.org ... >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users di

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 136, Issue 5

There's a link within cPanel's WHM (WebHost Manager, under "Transfers") for moving accounts between servers. I've never used it, but I would suspect/hope that it will transfer the Mailman lists for you, as long as you haven't modified the default installations. On 06/03/2015 06:16 PM, Annette Cart

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest Volume Frequency

On 01/22/2015 08:17 AM, Peter Knowles wrote: > Hi, > > When I set the "Digest Volume Frequency" to "Weekly" is there a way set the > day which messages are sent out (Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat)? "Digest Volume Frequency" has nothing to do with when digests are sent. It only controls how o

[Mailman-Users] Digest Volume Frequency

Hi, When I set the "Digest Volume Frequency" to "Weekly" is there a way set the day which messages are sent out (Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat)? I'm currently using Mailman 2.1.18-1 Best Regards, Peter Knowles TPN Solutions Email: pknow...@tpnsolutions.com Phone: 604-782-9342 Skype: tpnsupp

Re: [Mailman-Users] digest setting

On 12/19/2014 09:26 AM, Xie, Wei wrote: > > I have a question about two our digest settings - how do the two settings > work. > > 1) How big in Kb should a digest be before it gets sent out? 0 implies no > maximum size.(Edit digest_size_threshhold) 1000 > > My understanding when total size of

[Mailman-Users] digest setting

Mark, I have a question about two our digest settings - how do the two settings work. 1) How big in Kb should a digest be before it gets sent out? 0 implies no maximum size.(Edit digest_size_threshhold) 1000 My understanding when total size of posted messages reaches 1000KB, the digest volume

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

On 12/16/2014 6:40 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have > complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work > with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML format, and > a link be presented in the table of co

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

Lucio Chiappetti writes: > > Actually, most Emacs-based MUAs are able to treat digests as folders > > by default. No customizations required. > > Then you are beyond my mark, Not really. My primary MUA is VM, which presents a rather simple menubar & toolbar interface to the average user.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Lucio Chiappetti writes: > I hope it is allowed to post a few screendumps to demonstrate Unfortunately, Mailman @python.org doesn't pass those, OK, should be here (do not know why first got a different name) http://i62.tinypic.com/2l94j5s.png h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

Lucio Chiappetti writes: > I hope it is allowed to post a few screendumps to demonstrate Unfortunately, Mailman @python.org doesn't pass those, and they don't get into mail-archive.com because it's subscribed by mail, not direct from the Mailman daemon. > This satisfies your item 1 in three cl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

1. Display digest messages in the summary as single messages. Are there any MUAs that can do that? 2. If the user clicks on the digest message, it is opened as a folder, not as a message. As I said before, Alpine can do that or be instructed to do that. I hope it is allowed t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

> On 18 Dec 2014, at 7:22 pm, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Digest messages would actually be a better workflow for your users if > the MUAs bothered to implement: > >1. Display digest messages in the summary as single messages. Are there any MUAs that can do that? >2. If the user c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

Peter Shute writes: > They create problems when they reply by constructing the reply by > hand with a different subject line, or by simply replying to the > digest email, with unchanged subject line and quoting the digest in > full. The only reason they use digest mode in the first place is >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > technically speaking, "on arrival" pertains to a mail > delivery agent, and not to a MUA, which may operate when > first entered by the user. Yes. I've done it at the MDA with gmail, Exchange and I think Yahoo. I used to do it in the MUA when I used Outlook Express. T

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, Peter Shute wrote: On 17 Dec 2014, at 8:58 pm, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: I am subscribed in MIME digest mode to all lists which support them. I find they are a great way to receive messages once per day (more or less) without being pestered by single messages as they come.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

> On 17 Dec 2014, at 8:58 pm, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > > I am subscribed in MIME digest mode to all lists which support them. I > find they are a great way to receive messages once per day (more or less) > without being pestered by single messages as they come. . . . > this splits the digest

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, Andrew Hodgson wrote: I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work with. I am subscribed in MIME digest mode to all lists which support them. I find they are a great way to receive

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

Andrew Hodgson writes: > We worked on a new version of the digest plain. > > You should try this template on a test list. > > From: [% fromlist %] > To: [% to %] > Reply-to: [% replyto %] > Subject: [% FILTER qencode %][%|loc(list.name,date)%]%1 Digest %2[%END%] [% > IF total_group > 1

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

On 12/16/2014 10:25 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > One would have to create the TOC as text/html rather than text/plain and > add links to the various message parts. These can't be anchor tags. Do > do that would require HTMLifying the entire digest. They could probably > be RFC2393 mid: references th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

Mark Sapiro wrote: >On 12/16/2014 08:56 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: >> --- Original Message - >>> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" >>> Andrew Hodgson writes: I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

On 12/16/2014 11:14 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > I don't believe you would need each message as separate MIME parts. For > reference I am going to copy out a template an admin of another list sent me > - they are using Sympa. This is a template they use for doing exactly the > same thing. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

Andrew Hodgson writes: > One of the examples I saw from another setup was to use in page > links for each message in the TOC, so the links in the TOC just put > the focus onto the next message. I don't understand what this means in terms of the link's href. It's definitely not a matter of "ju

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

r them. Peter Shute > -Original Message- > From: Mailman-Users > [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pshute=nuw.org...@python.org] > On Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson > Sent: Tuesday, 16 December 2014 10:41 PM > To: Mailman Users > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes > > Hi, &g

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Andrew Hodgson writes: > > I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have > > > complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work > > > with. >One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML > format, > > and a link be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

On 12/16/2014 08:56 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > --- Original Message - >> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > >> Andrew Hodgson writes: >> >>> I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have >>> complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work >>> with. One reque

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

--- Original Message - > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Andrew Hodgson writes: > > > I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have > > complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work > > with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML > > f

[Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

Andrew Hodgson writes: > I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have > complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work > with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML > format, and a link be presented in the table of contents to go to

[Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

Hi, I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML format, and a link be presented in the table of contents to go to each message. Can this be do

[Mailman-Users] Digest feature for pending moderator requests

Dennis Carr writes: > Long and short, ranting aside, how do I set up mailman so I don't get > an email for each of the held messages, instead getting that sort of > "digest" message? I've combed through the web ui, but I can't seem to > find a relevant feature In 2.1.18-1 on the "General

[Mailman-Users] Digest feature for pending moderator requests

I have two lists - ffml and ffml-admins - which I've noticed a slight behavior difference. On ffml-admins, I get a message once per day that tells me that I have n>0 emails pending, and no emails on a per-email received basis. With ffml, however, every time a pending message is held, the moderato

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 124, Issue 8

2014-06-09 21:42 GMT+03:00 Gerry Grieve : > This complaint is NOT about the list name but about the > program name “~mailman/bin/list_members mailman”, ie the > shell did not find list_memebers with this path. > > Use the “locate” command to find your your mailmain/bin directory. > > ie >>gt; locat

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 124, Issue 8

2014-06-09 13:00 GMT+03:00 : > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 16:40:35 -0400 > From: Rich Kulawiec > To: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Export all subsribers > Message-ID: <20140608204035.ga29...@gsp.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Sun, Jun 08

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

Mark Rousell writes: > It seems to me that if a protocol so easily allows (or even > effectively encourages) usage that craps on existing legitimate > Internet usage then the protocol (and its designers) must be in > part to blame. I don't see any real difference between ESP abuse of "p=rejec

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

On 26/05/2014 05:46, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Richard Damon writes: > > On 5/25/14, 11:30 AM, Mark Rousell wrote: > > > > Whilst Yahoo and AOL are the ones who have chosen to > > > use/misuse/abuse DMARC in this way, it could also be said that > > > DMARC (and all its backers on its curren

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

Richard Damon writes: > On 5/25/14, 11:30 AM, Mark Rousell wrote: > > Whilst Yahoo and AOL are the ones who have chosen to > > use/misuse/abuse DMARC in this way, it could also be said that > > DMARC (and all its backers on its current form) are to blame > > precisely because DMARC *allows* Y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

>My understanding is that DMARC WAS going through the standardization >process, and actually was to the state where experimental use was >justified (and in some sense actually required). ... No, not at all. DMARC was designed and implemented by a small closed group of large companies listed on th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

On 25/05/2014 19:04, Richard Damon wrote: > I suppose that the communities response should have been to just kick > off all Yahoo (and later AOL) users from mailing list (as that is really > one meaning of the DMARC setting announced), but the community had too > much compassion for the "innocent"

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

On 5/25/14, 11:30 AM, Mark Rousell wrote: > (Not sent to list previously, apologies). > > On 25/05/2014 01:00, Richard Damon wrote: >> The "problem" isn't DMARC, the problem is it's abuse by Yahoo and AOL. >> These are big players, and it isn't really practical for lists to just >> say they are bre

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

On 24/05/2014 23:12, Allan Hansen wrote: > The idea of using the list address as the From: address is not good. > It hides the sender and it messes up the archives. It seems to me that this can be mitigated in the long term if archive software (and mail clients for that matter) can be altered to r

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

(Not sent to list previously, apologies). On 25/05/2014 01:00, Richard Damon wrote: > The "problem" isn't DMARC, the problem is it's abuse by Yahoo and AOL. > These are big players, and it isn't really practical for lists to just > say they are breaking the rules so we won't let them play anymore.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

On 5/24/14, 6:26 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Richard Damon writes: > > > From what I have seen, any version of Mailman before 2.1.16 (and > > preferably 2.1.18) just isn't compatible with DMARC > > Please, it's the other way around! ;-) DMARC is the interloper, and > some insiders fear that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

> > I just realized that setting the digest option could be a temporary > > solution for my Yahoo and AOL subscribers > >Just make sure you set it for *all* users, not just those using Yahoo! >and AOL. You only need to implement it for subscribers using mail systems that implement DMARC rejections

[Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

Well, never mind. I would have to do this for all users, not just these. A pain this is. Sorry. Allan I just realized that setting the digest option could be a temporary solution for my Yahoo and AOL subscribers until things get sorted (hopefully by Yahoo and AOL stopping this nonsense). My M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

Richard Damon writes: > From what I have seen, any version of Mailman before 2.1.16 (and > preferably 2.1.18) just isn't compatible with DMARC Please, it's the other way around! ;-) DMARC is the interloper, and some insiders fear that this mess will derail progress to RFC status of the useful

[Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

Allan Hansen writes: > I just realized that setting the digest option could be a temporary > solution for my Yahoo and AOL subscribers Just make sure you set it for *all* users, not just those using Yahoo! and AOL. The important thing is that non-AOL/Yahoo! subscribers be protected from the de

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

On 5/24/14, 4:24 PM, Allan Hansen wrote: > I just realized that setting the digest option could be a temporary solution > for my Yahoo and AOL subscribers until things get sorted (hopefully by Yahoo > and AOL stopping this nonsense). My Mailman installation comes with the > system (Mac OS X). Ma

[Mailman-Users] Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

I just realized that setting the digest option could be a temporary solution for my Yahoo and AOL subscribers until things get sorted (hopefully by Yahoo and AOL stopping this nonsense). My Mailman installation comes with the system (Mac OS X). Maiman is 2.1.14 and the OS is 10.5.8. I have no pl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 111, Issue 16

Thanks for your reply. The issue is that only employees of member companies shall be able to join any of the mailing lists. In the first step we approve only subscriptions with email accounts from a member company. Someone with a subscription can then later on change his mail address to one of an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest mode sending individual emails

ml lists wrote: > >I had/have the following >digest_size_threshhold = 30 >digest_send_periodic = no >digest_volume_frequency = weekly > >And if I understood correctly, this regardless of threshhold size >should only send weekly, no? No. This will send a digest whenever the size reaches about 30K

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest mode sending individual emails

On 13 March 2013 22:56, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Lists can be configured to send digests periodically > (digest_send_periodic = Yes), but the frequency is determined by how > often Mailman's cron/senddigests runs. > > You have probably set digest_size_threshhold to 0 thinking this means > unlimited

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest mode sending individual emails

ml lists wrote: > >I am having some problems with a mailman list that i administer. The list >is configured to send digest emails once a week (via the web ui) Lists can be configured to send digests periodically (digest_send_periodic = Yes), but the frequency is determined by how often Mailman'

[Mailman-Users] Digest mode sending individual emails

Hello, I am having some problems with a mailman list that i administer. The list is configured to send digest emails once a week (via the web ui) but this is not happening, instead emails are being sent individually, as they are posted to the list, but tagged as digest. Would anyone have any su

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members continue to receive individual posts

Jeff White wrote: >I figured out what the problem was: > >https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/558274 > >I corrected the documentation on my mailman install but I think the >better fix is to change the code as the patch attached to the bug report >does. This fix has been committed for Mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members continue to receive individual posts

I figured out what the problem was: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/558274 I corrected the documentation on my mailman install but I think the better fix is to change the code as the patch attached to the bug report does. It doesn't make sense to simple check if greater than. When se

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest members continue to receive individual posts

Jeff White wrote: >On 2.1.14 I have a list where multiple mebers are in digest mode but >continue to get individual posts. Do they also get digests? Do the individual messages even come from Mailman? I.e. are they perhaps direct Ccs of replies to their own posts? The headers of the individual

[Mailman-Users] Digest members continue to receive individual posts

On 2.1.14 I have a list where multiple mebers are in digest mode but continue to get individual posts. I tried creating a new digest volume, setting the member to normal mode then back to digest, and removing then re-adding members. No change, the problem continues. No other lists have this p

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest growing to infinity

12 12:34 An: Stephen J. Turnbull; Jan Krohn Cc: Mailman-Users@python.org Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest growing to infinity It certainly seems that Mailman's cron/senddigests is not removing the lists/LISTNAME/digest.mbox file after creating the digest. I doubt however that check_perms w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest growing to infinity

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Jan Krohn writes: > > > The digest being sent out is the same one every day, and the new posts are > > just appended to it. > >That's incorrect, and it sounds like the digest file is not being >deleted properly. Deleting a file requires write access to the >containing

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