The wiki page looks great and thank you for the other replies.
thank you
Tom Lieuallen
On 4/16/14, 2:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 04/16/2014 01:30 PM, Tom Lieuallen wrote:
Thank you very much for the summary of solutions. I was about to
suggest/request it. It may be helpful to add to the w
On Fri, 2014-04-18 at 16:23 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 04/17/2014 09:13 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>
> > Someone, maybe it was you, posted on this forum earlier that perhaps 90%
> > or more of spam with a yahoo.com origin (or one of their international
> > DNs) actually _does_ come from Yahoo
On 04/17/2014 09:13 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
> Someone, maybe it was you, posted on this forum earlier that perhaps 90%
> or more of spam with a yahoo.com origin (or one of their international
> DNs) actually _does_ come from Yahoo and that their response to abuse
> notifications is abysmal to n
Jim Popovitch writes:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull
> wrote:
>
> > So maybe it does, but in my spamtrap I have only 67/4359 (1.5%)
> > messages from Yahoo (based on grepping for "^From:.*yahoo" and
> > "^From:" respectively), vs. 658/38748 (1.7%) in my saved mail fo
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Lindsay Haisley writes:
> > Someone, maybe it was you, posted on this forum earlier that perhaps 90%
> > or more of spam with a yahoo.com origin (or one of their international
> > DNs) actually _does_ come from Yahoo
>
> Wasn't me.
Lindsay Haisley writes:
> Stephen, thanks for your generous reply, and your insights. It
> does seem to me, though, that when megabucks are riding on
> additional bandwidth, and if Yahoo is serious about controlling
> spam, they might start by putting some resources behind putting
> their ow
I can't answer your specific question but a number of years ago I
created a Yahoo account which required the creation of a Yahoo email
address. I have never used that email address nor have I divulged it to
anyone. Oddly enough, thousands of spam email addresses land in that
Yahoo email account
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 15:24 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > Their understanding (and knowledge) of accepted best practices
> > regarding email and mailing lists is woefully limited.
>
> I rather doubt that. The DMARC I-D has gone through several editions
> (I-Ds have a life-span limited t
Larry Kuenning writes:
> Query: On a very low-traffic mailing list (i.e. one where the list
> admin doesn't think it too much trouble), would it be a reasonable
> workaround for the list admin to paste the content of a
> message-to-be-moderated (i.e. one From: a yahoo address) into a new
Lindsay Haisley writes:
> On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 15:34 -0500, Mike Starr wrote:
> > I know there aren't any teeth behind RFCs but it might at least get
> > their attention.
The real problem is that RFCs are based on working practice,
preferably acknowledged best practice. DMARC is an experimen
On 4/16/2014 4:51 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote (about my suggestion of manually
moderating posts from Yahoo users):
But what you are suggesting is essentially what the Wrap Message option
introduced as a site option in 2.1.16 and expanded in 2.1.18 does.
Well, yes. But:
-- if you're working with a
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 15:34 -0500, Mike Starr wrote:
> I know there aren't any teeth behind RFCs but it might at least get
> their attention.
Doubtful, but the sentiment is noble. My guess is that the people at
Yahoo who implemented this, and possibly also the designers of DMARC,
don't fully unde
If one is interested in maintaining one's identity, using an ISP's email
makes it a pain to change ISPs. Of course, that does make the ISPs very
happy.
This is a fascinating discussion and as administrator of two very small
lists, it's giving me an awful lot to think about. However, being a
c
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:19:29 +0200
jdd wrote:
Hello jdd,
>Le 16/04/2014 20:59, Brad Rogers a écrit :
>> Because every time you change provider, you would have to change email
>> address too.
>does this occur often?
It can, yes. In the past year, I've changed provider twice. If things
contin
On 04/16/2014 01:30 PM, Tom Lieuallen wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for the summary of solutions. I was about to
> suggest/request it. It may be helpful to add to the wiki as it seems
> quite important and complicated. I'd be interested in more mails like
> this, helping those of us move forwar
Le 16/04/2014 20:59, Brad Rogers a écrit :
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:31:25 +0200
jdd wrote:
Hello jdd,
(... why people can't use they ISP's mail?)
In case that's not a rhetorical question:
Because every time you change provider, you would have to change email
address too.
does this occur of
On 04/16/2014 01:34 PM, Larry Kuenning wrote:
>
> I've since thought of a third difficulty besides the two I mentioned.
>
> If the post-to-be-moderated is itself a reply to an earlier post, then
> mailman's archive threading will be broken unless the list moderator
> goes to the trouble of settin
Stephen,
Thank you very much for the summary of solutions. I was about to
suggest/request it. It may be helpful to add to the wiki as it seems
quite important and complicated. I'd be interested in more mails like
this, helping those of us move forward and alleviate the issues.
Unless I'm o
On 4/16/2014 1:57 PM, Larry Kuenning wrote:
Query: On a very low-traffic mailing list (i.e. one where the list
admin doesn't think it too much trouble), would it be a reasonable
workaround for the list admin to paste the content of a
message-to-be-moderated (i.e. one From: a yahoo address) into
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:31:25 +0200
jdd wrote:
Hello jdd,
>(... why people can't use they ISP's mail?)
In case that's not a rhetorical question:
Because every time you change provider, you would have to change email
address too. When you're subscribed to over one hundred mailing lists,
to say
On 04/16/2014 11:11 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>
> (2) You can break your mailing lists by using the author_is_list
> option in Mailman 2.1.16 and later. This option will only be
> available if the site configuration has ALLOW_AUTHOR_IS_LIST set
> to "Yes". This will cause the li
Le 16/04/2014 19:57, Larry Kuenning a écrit :
also advising yahoo.com list subscribers to get a Gmail account (as free
and easy to get as a Yahoo account)
so to be sure all your mail a read by google :-)
(of course may be yahoo do the same - why people can't use they ISP's mail?)
jdd
--
ht
On 04/16/2014 10:57 AM, Larry Kuenning wrote:
>
> Query: On a very low-traffic mailing list (i.e. one where the list
> admin doesn't think it too much trouble), would it be a reasonable
> workaround for the list admin to paste the content of a
> message-to-be-moderated (i.e. one From: a yahoo add
On 4/16/2014 12:51 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
What I'm advising list admins here, which puts a band-aid on the
problem, is to put all yahoo.com subscribers on moderation, effectively
making them read-only subscriptions. Also go through your membership
list and clear any nomail disablements with
Jose I. Rojas writes:
> We have a community group mail list which we run using Mailman and
> have lately had a problem getting our emails to members who have
> Bellsouth and Yahoo email addresses. I've seen the posts about DMARC
> but am not that tech-savvy to figure out what this means and h
I'll jump in here and offer the quick solution that I'm using at FMP.
The primary culprit here is Yahoo, which publishes a DMARC p=reject
policy via DNS. To the best of our knowledge, so far, no one else is
doing this, although sbcglobal, att.net, comcast.net, Hotmail and a
number of other email s
We have a community group mail list which we run using Mailman and have lately
had a problem getting our emails to members who have Bellsouth and Yahoo email
addresses. I've seen the posts about DMARC but am not that tech-savvy to figure
out what this means and how to resolve. Some of our member
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