Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-10 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 04:32:56PM -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > > I want to setup multiple servers running (the same) mailman lists. > The ways I can think of doing this is either: Been there, done that, didn't work. > Option 1: >Setup a master machine with everything on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-09 Thread Mats Wichmann
At 06:02 PM 5/8/2001 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: >Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > >> Trying to keep the subscriber databases in sync across machines is going to >> be problematic. > >Tow things I can think off of the top of my head, one being the easiest >(maybe). > > a) NFS Not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 5:18 PM, "J C Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I were to go for a first order attempt at reliability/scalability > I'd be tempted to do something like > Outbound list mail is not delivered to the local MTA but to a set > of remote MTAs hidden behind a DNS round robin The prob

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 5:26 PM, "Ashley M. Kirchner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Generally, two to six at the most. A few things to check... Make sure your batch size is small: SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10 Set your qrunner proc to live longer, and extend the lock life: QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME = hours(10) QRUNNER

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 5:02 PM, "Ashley M. Kirchner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a) NFS I wouldn't even try. > or b) If mailman has a way of sending a signal out when something changes on > the .db files No, it doesn't. Doesn't necessarily need to. > What comes to mind with this last option tho

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread alex wetmore
On Tue, 8 May 2001, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Load balancing. I prefer having one server running mailman and having all > the lists on it, however this means that machine will also get hit pretty hard > when several lists get to receive/send messages. Most of the pain is in sending the mes

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > And your average delay in delivery is -- how long? Generally, two to six at the most. If I don't clean out the queue because of nasty remote servers not working properly, it can go into a day or two. That's generally when I'll get a phone call because someone hasn

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 08 May 2001 17:55:21 -0600 Ashley M Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuq Von Rospach wrote: >> And services like yahoo have programmers on staff to write this >> stuff, and admins on staff to manage it, and budgets for the >> hardware, and... > Something I don't have. :) That's wh

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 4:55 PM, "Ashley M. Kirchner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Something I don't have. :) That's why I'm trying to go as light as I can, > with > currently (working) software. Well, when you have more stuff, you have more complexity. Someone has to build it and maintain it. > Right n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > Trying to keep the subscriber databases in sync across machines is going to > be problematic. Tow things I can think off of the top of my head, one being the easiest (maybe). a) NFS or b) If mailman has a way of sending a signal out when something change

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > And services like yahoo have programmers on staff to write this stuff, and > admins on staff to manage it, and budgets for the hardware, and... Something I don't have. :) That's why I'm trying to go as light as I can, with currently (working) software. > How big

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 4:01 PM, "Ashley M. Kirchner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Before we start building this beast -- why? > > Load balancing. I figured, but I wanted to make sure. > I prefer having one server running mailman and having all > the lists on it, however this means that machine will also

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > Before we start building this beast -- why? Load balancing. I prefer having one server running mailman and having all the lists on it, however this means that machine will also get hit pretty hard when several lists get to receive/send messages. Having a cluster o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/8/01 3:32 PM, "Ashley M. Kirchner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I want to setup multiple servers running (the same) mailman lists. Before we start building this beast -- why? Trying to keep the subscriber databases in sync across machines is going to be problematic. Before we build i

[Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-08 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
I want to setup multiple servers running (the same) mailman lists. The ways I can think of doing this is either: Option 1: Setup a master machine with everything on it and export the mailman structure for NFS so the other machines can mount it, and use it. Pr