On 12/16/2016 11:17 AM, John Covici wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 13:04:50 -0500,
> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>
>> Is anything written to mailman's error log after you made it world writable?
>
> When I did that, I got permission errors on the config.pck of the list
> since I was doing http://lists.ccs.
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 13:04:50 -0500,
Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> On 12/16/2016 09:20 AM, John Covici wrote:
> >
> > hmmm, the file system is mounted normally like this:
> > rpool/usr on /usr type zfs (rw,relatime,xattr,noacl)
> > and I verified that its capable of setting the bit according to its
> > p
On 12/16/2016 09:20 AM, John Covici wrote:
>
> hmmm, the file system is mounted normally like this:
> rpool/usr on /usr type zfs (rw,relatime,xattr,noacl)
> and I verified that its capable of setting the bit according to its
> properties.
Then the CGIs are running as effective group mailman whic
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 11:10:00 -0500,
Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> On 12/15/2016 10:48 PM, John Covici wrote:
> >
> > When I try to do anything on the web, I get permission denied error on
> > /var/lib/mailman/logs/error . If I then make that file world
> > read/write, I get permission denied error on
On 12/15/2016 10:48 PM, John Covici wrote:
>
> When I try to do anything on the web, I get permission denied error on
> /var/lib/mailman/logs/error . If I then make that file world
> read/write, I get permission denied error on config.pck of the list I
> am trying to access.
>
> Now, everything
Hi. I am using mailman 2.1.23 on a gentoo system. I run in to the
following problem:
When I try to do anything on the web, I get permission denied error on
/var/lib/mailman/logs/error . If I then make that file world
read/write, I get permission denied error on config.pck of the list I
am tryi
Jim Popovitch writes:
> Hello,
>
> Is $vendor's mailman pkg doing something wrong:
>
> ~$ ls -al /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/create
> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root list 14368 Oct 27 18:23 create
No, that's standard setup. Assuming /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman has the
right ownership and permissions (typical
Hello,
Is $vendor's mailman pkg doing something wrong:
~$ ls -al /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/create
-rwxr-sr-x 1 root list 14368 Oct 27 18:23 create
It seems to me that cgi-bin's owned by root are a no-no. Is that correct?
Thx,
-Jim P.
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thufir writes:
> Isn't there a different URL I can use instead?
Sure. Those URLs are chosen because they require minimal setup in
many webservers, but the base URLs are configurable.
You can use any URL you want, but (1) you need to teach your webserver
to invoke the CGI script (in Apache this
I get a 404:
thufir@dur:~$
thufir@dur:~$ mail -f Maildir/
"/home/thufir/Maildir/": 3 messages
>1 thufir@dur.bouncem 15/581 test Mon, 30 Dec
2013 19:15:31 -0800
2 thufir@dur.bouncem 15/581 test Mon, 30 Dec
2013 19:18:16 -0800
3 mailman-owner@
gene wrote:
>I have a lan with several machines on it. I've installed MM 2.1.14 on the
>unix host 'genesis' which also runs my apache server. In order to browse to
>genesis' web server from within the lan, I have to use something like:
> "http://genesis/mailman/listinfo";
>Using the fqdn (genesi
Hi All:
I have a lan with several machines on it. I've installed MM 2.1.14 on the
unix host 'genesis' which also runs my apache server. In order to browse to
genesis' web server from within the lan, I have to use something like:
"http://genesis/mailman/listinfo";
Using the fqdn (genesis.domain.n
Alex Schittko wrote:
>
>I'm using FreeBSD 8
>So I'm following this tutorial: http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=18 to set up
>Mailman with Postfix
>I installed mailman via ports, but after I configured it in apache and did
>everything in the tutorial, I go to http://lists.zweis.us/mailman/listinfo
Hey mailman list,
I'm using FreeBSD 8
So I'm following this tutorial: http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=18 to set up
Mailman with Postfix
I installed mailman via ports, but after I configured it in apache and did
everything in the tutorial, I go to http://lists.zweis.us/mailman/listinfo and
i
Terri Oda wrote:
>Lee, Davis H wrote:
> > In migrating from OS X to Ubuntu, my old URLs, listed on all the links
> > on all the pages brought over, had addresses without /cgi-bin/,
> >
> > What's the best way to fix this?
>
>
>There's a withlist script in $mailman/bin called "fixurl.py" -- you'll
Lee, Davis H wrote:
> In migrating from OS X to Ubuntu, my old URLs, listed on all the links
> on all the pages brought over, had addresses without /cgi-bin/,
>
> What's the best way to fix this?
There's a withlist script in $mailman/bin called "fixurl.py" -- you'll
need to run it on lists to g
Lee, Davis H wrote:
>
>In migrating from OS X to Ubuntu, my old URLs, listed on all the links
>on all the pages brought over, had addresses without /cgi-bin/, like
>this:
>
>http://lists.aps.edu/mailman/admin
>
>The new install expects the /cgi-bin/, like this:
>
>http://lists.aps.edu/cgi-bin/mail
IIUC,
In migrating from OS X to Ubuntu, my old URLs, listed on all the links
on all the pages brought over, had addresses without /cgi-bin/, like
this:
http://lists.aps.edu/mailman/admin
The new install expects the /cgi-bin/, like this:
http://lists.aps.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/admin
Jana Nguyen quoted an off list post.
>
>Jason Novotny wrote:
>
>>
>>but I still seem to get:
>>
>> [Mon Aug 21 14:48:06 2006] [error] [client 132.239.132.180]
>> (13)Permission den
>> ied: exec of '/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create' failed
>> [Mon Aug 21 14:48:06 2006] [error] [client 132.239
Have you created the site password?
/usr/local/mailman/bin/mmsitepass
Jason Novotny wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>Thanks everyone for your suggestion-- I did run bin/check_perms and
> discovered the permissions needed updating. check_perms -f seemed to
> fix those.
>However, I'm still getting a
Jason Novotny wrote:
>
>I do "ls -al" of my cgi-bin directory and I see:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] cgi-bin]# ls -al
>total 236
>drwxrwsr-x 2 gridsphere mailman 4096 Aug 21 12:14 .
>drwxrwsr-x 20 root mailman 4096 Mar 9 14:05 ..
>-rwxr-xr-x 1 gridsphere mailman 15646 Aug 21 12:14 admin
>-rw
Hi,
I installed latest mailman distribution following the instructions
and did
./configure --with-cgi-gid=apache
However, after following the rest of the setup and trying to create a
test mail list, I invoke localhost/mailman/create
and in my log file I see:
[Mon Aug 21 12:21:14 2006] [e
Hi Mark,
Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 07:49 -0700, Mark Sapiro a écrit :
> There should be a stack trace immediately preceding this in the error
> log. Without that information, it is very difficult to know what's
> happening. If you have the stack trace, please provide it. If it isn't
> there,
DaffyDuke wrote:
>
>* from
>http://daffyduke.lautre.net/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/ag-staff/members/add
>=> KO
>
>with this error from the user :
>Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
>We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
>traceback and other system
Hello, I'm sorry to try again here but my previous post has been moderated.
Sorry for my poor English.
First, I am Olivier Duquesne, an adminsitrator of L'Autre Net web
hosting service. We are using mailman (2.1.5-5.backport) on Debian
Woody. I'm sorry to post here but I did not find any answer
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 19:20 -0400, Poster wrote:
> OK. If I'm following this correctly, Mailman is run as setgid Mailman,
> so whatever calls it acts as though it were in the Mailman group. To
> prevent abuse of this, Mailman allows only those who pass its security
> check to call it.
>
> I'm runn
John Dennis said:
> Just to expand a bit on something I should have elaborated:
>
> There is exactly one member of the mailman group, the user mailman.
> When
> the MTA or web server want to perform a mailman operation it invokes
> what is called a wrapper. The wrappers are group mailman and are
>
Just to expand a bit on something I should have elaborated:
There is exactly one member of the mailman group, the user mailman. When
the MTA or web server want to perform a mailman operation it invokes
what is called a wrapper. The wrappers are group mailman and are setgid,
this means the wrapper
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 17:34 -0400, Poster wrote:
> Ok, according to the docs, if the account that runs CGI scripts is a
> member of the mailman group, then private archives can be seen by
> everyone. This is a bad thing. However, in order for apache to update
> files in the mailman paths (like lock
Ok, according to the docs, if the account that runs CGI scripts is a
member of the mailman group, then private archives can be seen by
everyone. This is a bad thing. However, in order for apache to update
files in the mailman paths (like locks and such), these files have to
be writable by the CGI
On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 11:13 +0200, Patrick Le Deault wrote:
> Failure to find group name nobody. Try adding this group
The cgi-gid needs to be the gid of the web server (the process is
probably httpd and the group is probably apache).
The mail-gid needs to be the gid of your MTA (e.g. sendmail,
Hi,
I've to install Mailman 2.1.5 on my RH9 an have this message :
The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being
stored in your syslog:
Failure to find group name nobody. Try adding this group
to your system, or re-run configure, providing an
existing group na
I'm on a lot of different mailing lists, so after getting the answer to
this question I selfishly disabled my mail delivery on the mailman list.
However, I've been contacted by a couple of folks privately with the same
problem. So, let me post the solution for anyone else who may be
getting
Hm... it does, though, even through command line python. Is this the same
Sax as the suse X config SAX?
-don
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Mark Sapiro wrote:
> >
> >Something is very strange. The line #s in the above trace don't
> >correlate with the 2.1.4 scripts/driver. Also the
Wow... that was it. I have two machines with the same OS/Mailman
installation and all other files were identical except for the driver
script. This looks like a very sneaky hack and now I have security
concerns.
Once I replaced the driver script things went back to normal.
Is it appropriate
Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>Something is very strange. The line #s in the above trace don't
>correlate with the 2.1.4 scripts/driver. Also there is no "import
>xml.sax.saxutils" in this file and Mailman doesn't import
>xml.sax.saxutils ( a Python library module) anywhere that I can see.
Also, since xml.
Don Burns wrote:
>
>Thanks for the quick reply. I've tried your suggestions and came up
>empty. db_check --all did not report errors, list_lists output was clean
>and everything expected, A couple of debug lines in listinfo.py never
>showed up (I assumed they would print in logs/error). There
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the quick reply. I've tried your suggestions and came up
empty. db_check --all did not report errors, list_lists output was clean
and everything expected, A couple of debug lines in listinfo.py never
showed up (I assumed they would print in logs/error). There are no
fore
Don Burns wrote:
>
>The problem:
>
> http://www.openscenegraph.net/listinfo
>
>Produces:
>/
>Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4
>
>We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>
>If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy
I've carefully scoured the archives and faqs to get an answer to my
problem, and while I found a few similar postings, I did not find a
solution that matched my problem.
The problem:
http://www.openscenegraph.net/listinfo
Produces:
/
At 7:40 AM +0100 2004-08-12, PeteBell wrote:
So. Is it possible therefore to use the "subscribe.py" as a model to
produce an "unsubscribe.py" script which can be called by a form in
the same way, thus speeding up the unsubscribe process, which at the
moment is done by a form taking you to a pas
First let me say that I know nothing about python, cgi scripts, or any
sort of code (as will probably become clear!)
It seems to me that when a person subscribes to my list using the
"subscribe" form, the file in Mailman which comes into play is
"/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py" - Yes?...
And I know
On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:21:15 +0100
"Andrew Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: # pw group show nobody
: nobody:*:65534:
It's not supposed to happen in the world of 32-bit software, but your
problem sure has the smell of a bug that only happens if the gid is greater
than 32k.
---
Hi all,
This question is asked several times in the archives, but I'm yet to
find the answer.
What do you do when you've installed Mailman, but accessing the CGI
pages with a web browser gives the error message:
Failure to find group name nobody. Try adding this group
to your system, or re-
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:12:35 +0100
Nélson Jorge Teixeira de Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 65534, GOT gid -1.
Since these are "magic numbers", I suspect a signed vs unsigned integer
bug. Do your really have group ids greater then 32K?
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Hi,
I'm having a problem with accessing the mailman web interface.
Every time i try to use the web interface o get thi error:
The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your
syslog:
Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 65534, GOT gid -1.
I already tried sever
Hello all. I have searched through the archives for a solution to my
problem, but I can not seem to find one. I did find out a couple of
other things though.
My setup is SuSE 8.2, mailman 2.1.1, and apache 2.0.48. I have
virtual domains, and each domain has a config file at
/etc/apache/
Hello, I am trying to get a mailman install to work on SUSE Pro 9 with
their weird apache 2.0.48 setup. Apache runs as wwwrun:www, or is
supposed to.
I properly compiled mailman with cgi-gid=8 (www) and the list WWW
interface works 90% right. On some pages, perhaps only when POSTing
informatio
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Hello all,
At this point, I am using the default install of Mailman that came with
RedHat 9 and have updated the rpms to the latest RedHat release. However, I
have always ran apache as another user other than the default apache. So
naturally, when I try to go to the initial default mailman list th
Ah ha ... yes I'll give that a try.
Cheers
Dave
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Dave Filchak wrote:
> At this point, I am using the default install of Mailman that came with
> RedHat 9 and have updated the rpms to the latest RedHat release. However, I
> have always ran apache as another user other than the default apache. So
> nat
Hello all,
At this point, I am using the default install of Mailman that came with
RedHat 9 and have updated the rpms to the latest RedHat release. However, I
have always ran apache as another user other than the default apache. So
naturally, when I try to go to the initial default mailman list th
Hello, Mailman users,
A little while ago I wrote to report a problem that my admindb
was not being updated when I tried to manage it through the
web page interface. It turns out my problem was more general:
all web page cgi scripts simply do nothing (fail silently).
When you press submit, you ret
Hello all,
We would like for subscribers to enter biographical information about
themselves prior to approval for subscription to a list. Can the new
Mailman 2.1.1 do this or be customized to do it? Can it run CGI scripts?
If so, how? I am running in an environment in which I am list
administ
> "f" == friedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
f> No, running postalias as user www generates a "Permission denied" error on the
aliases
f> file. Hence my question: should I change the file ownership, it's permissions or is
there a
f> way to run postalias under the user mailman?
I just s
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > But I don't understand at which end this is wrong. Was the cgi-gid set wrong? Or
> > > do I need to change the ownership of the aliases files? check-perms renders no
> > > errors. Do I need to tell mailman/create.py to run postaliases as user mail
> > But I don't understand at which end this is wrong. Was the cgi-gid set wrong? Or
> > do I need to change the ownership of the aliases files? check-perms renders no
> > errors. Do I need to tell mailman/create.py to run postaliases as user mailman,
>and
> > if so, how do I do that?
>
> Does
30-Jan-03 at 00:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> Hi there,
>
> this may seem to you as a simple question, but I'd appreciate some help. I've run
> mailman's configure-script with the option --with-cgi-gid=www and --with-mail-gid=-
> 2. Now when I'm trying to create a list via w
Hi there,
this may seem to you as a simple question, but I'd appreciate some help. I've run
mailman's configure-script with the option --with-cgi-gid=www and --with-mail-gid=-
2. Now when I'm trying to create a list via www with the create-script, I get the
error: RuntimeError: command failed: /
Hi all !
I've got a very strange error using
mailman...
I compiled the sources specifying the right mail
gid (12 for me) and the right cgi gid (99), but
when I create the test list and I try to access the
web page, I get this error :
Mailman CGI error!!!This entry is being stored in your
; - Original Message -
> From: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Ganael LAPLANCHE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] CGI error (got gid -1)
>
&g
fixed...
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Ganael LAPLANCHE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] CGI error (got gi
To: "Ganael LAPLANCHE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] CGI error (got gid -1)
> Take another look at your webserver configuration (I'm guessing its
> apache...). Make sure that your
Take another look at your webserver configuration (I'm guessing its
apache...). Make sure that your group id is actually set to Nobody
(gid=99). Afterwards, stop apache and then restart it.
On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 08:21, Ganael LAPLANCHE wrote:
> Hi all !
>
> I've got a very strange error using
Hi all !
I've got a very strange error using
mailman...
I compiled the sources specifying the right mail
gid (12 for me) and the right cgi gid (99), but
when I create the test list and I try to access the
web page, I get this error :
Mailman CGI error!!!This entry is being stored in you
"V.S.Mony" wrote:
> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid 48. (Reconfigure to take
> 48?)
Seems your cgi-gid is 48, not 99.
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Hi,
had installed mailman. I am having rpm installation of apache. The gid of
mail is 12 and gid of nobody is 99. I gave the nobody gid for the cgi-gid.
Then i got the following error
Can you help me out.
Thanks
Venkat
Mailman CGI error!!!
The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not
>--with-cgi-gid 48
--with-cgi-gid=48
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Sorry for another post on this issue but I have been through the faq and
reread the INSTALL file several times and can't seem to get past this.
I did a default install which seemed to go ok until I got the point of
testing my new test list. When I did, I got the "Mailman CGI error!!!" page
and the
Robb,
I'm pretty sure this is related to a bug with suexec and cgid in Apache
2 (though i could be wrong). A developer on one of the systems here in
DCU has written some patches that should be part of the apache 2.0.37
release.
In the meantime, these patches are available here:
h
I've been reading through all the documentation for both Mailman and apache
and can't seem to figure this out. i also couldn't find anything in the
archives
I'm running Redhat 7.3, Mailman 2.0.11, and Apache 2.
i compiled both apache and mailman from source code and made all the changes
to pe
> "WK" == WATANABE Katsuhiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
WK> Almost all web site running mailman has a tiny bug in
WK> parameter handling in $prefix/cgi-bin/archives.
Folks should remove $prefix/cgi-bin/archives; it's an appendix.
-Barry
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:35:12 +0800
Lau Yuet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid 48. (Reconfigure to
> take 48?)
Please see the FAQ:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
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Hi,
I'm new on mailman. I've just installed the mailman version 2.0.9 on
my machine days ago, running Mandrake 8.1 and Postfix.
I got the following error message when I try to view the listinfo
page, what should I do to fix the problem? Please kindly help me.
Lewis
Almost all web site running mailman has a tiny bug in parameter
handling in $prefix/cgi-bin/archives.
If you knock http://any.site/mailman/archives (or our flagship
http://mail.python.org/mailman/archives for an instance),
you will get:
Bug in Mailman version x.yy.zz...
We're sorry, we h
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 03:31:45PM -0800, Dan Wilder wrote:
> For the individual irresponsible individuals you'll need some sort
Urk.
For irresponsible individuals ...
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Dan Wilder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Technical Manager & Editor
for 5 minutes (or whatever
> time period you want).
>
> Good Luck. Let us know what you come up with.
> - Original Message -
> From: "kellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:05 PM
> Subje
-
From: "kellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:05 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] CGI alternative?
> Hi, I'm part of a team that works on maintaining lists.indymedia.org, we
> have a very large number of lists, a lot of
Hi, I'm part of a team that works on maintaining lists.indymedia.org, we
have a very large number of lists, a lot of traffic, and seemingly a lot
of interest for robots, particularily badly behaved ones.
Several times lately the server has started choaking and dieing, with
loads of 70+ in respons
Check your /etc/group file to see if "nogroup" is defined as a group. I'll
wager a few quatlus that it isn't.
Jon Carnes
On Thursday 15 November 2001 05:54, Dieball, Andre wrote:
> Hi
>
> I get the following error message when trying to ./configure:
>
> ---cut---
> checking for CGI wrapper GID
Hi
I get the following error message when trying to ./configure:
---cut---
checking for CGI
wrapper GID...
configure: error:
* No existing group found for the cgi_wrapper
program.
* This is the group that your Web server runs CGI
scripts under.
* You might want t
Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 15. November 2001 12:18
> To: Andre Dieball
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] CGI Wrapper
>
> Try
>
> ./configure --with-cgi-gid=nogroup
>
> At 11:56 15/11/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >
> >
>
Hi
I get the following error message when trying to ./configure:
---cut---
checking for CGI
wrapper GID...
configure: error:
* No existing group found for the cgi_wrapper
program.
* This is the group that your Web server runs CGI
scripts under.
* You might wan
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Ray Gardener wrote:
> Hi, I have recently upgraded to version 2.0.1 of mailman running on
> Solaris 2.7 with Python 1.5.2.
>
> This seems to work much more efficiently that the old version but every
> so often I am locked out of the web interface of certain lists. On
> inspection there appear
Hi, I have recently upgraded to version 2.0.1 of
mailman running on Solaris 2.7 with Python 1.5.2.
This seems to work much more efficiently that the
old version but every so often I am locked out of the web interface of certain
lists. On inspection there appears to be a large amount of lock f
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