[Mailman-Users] Approved postings are not being delivered

Hi, I moderate and administrate a professional discussion list with about 6,000 subscribers. Most of the subscribers use Gmail, Yahoo, or other free email services. In the recent past, approved list postings are not being delivered to Gmail and Yahoo. I have subscribed to the list using my Gma

Re: [Mailman-Users] approved from non-subscriber

On 02/19/2015 05:47 PM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > Thanks Mark! > > And how about if this non-subscriber is included to the > hold_these_nonmembers list in Privacy -- Sender filters? > > Is Approved: powerful enough to overpower this option? Approved: with a valid password trumps (overrides) everyt

Re: [Mailman-Users] approved from non-subscriber

Thanks Mark! And how about if this non-subscriber is included to the hold_these_nonmembers list in Privacy -- Sender filters? Is Approved: powerful enough to overpower this option? TIA, Danil 2015-02-18 19:56 GMT+02:00 Mark Sapiro : > On 02/18/2015 04:34 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: >> >> I was sur

Re: [Mailman-Users] approved from non-subscriber

On 02/18/2015 04:34 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > I was surprised by the fact that message from unsubscribed address was > successfully delivered to the list because of "Approved:" pseudo > header. > > Is this intended behavior? Are there a way to configure list to accept > messages with Approved:

[Mailman-Users] approved from non-subscriber

Hi, I was surprised by the fact that message from unsubscribed address was successfully delivered to the list because of "Approved:" pseudo header. Is this intended behavior? Are there a way to configure list to accept messages with Approved: header only if sender is moderated subscriber? Thanks

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved messages not coming through

On 12/19/2011 7:15 PM, Doug Gaff wrote: > Hi, > > Lately message that queue up for approval are not going through their > respective lists even after they are approved by the moderator. Do they disappear from the moderation queue? > Messages from list members are coming through fine. Anyone e

[Mailman-Users] Approved messages not coming through

Hi, Lately message that queue up for approval are not going through their respective lists even after they are approved by the moderator. Messages from list members are coming through fine. Anyone else seen this? How should I diagnose before just bouncing mailman? Thanks, Doug

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header, mailman password and security

On Mon, 25 Apr 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote: I have created a tracker item at for this and implemented it for Mailman 2.1.15. Hi Mark, It's nice to return from a prolonged weekend to find this in the mailbox :) Thanks a lot ! PS I broke the news

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header, mailman password and security

I have created a tracker item at for this and implemented it for Mailman 2.1.15. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header, mailman password and security

Dag Wieers wrote: >On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Dag Wieers wrote: > >> We have been using the Approved header as a way to automatically approve >> commit logs to a read-only mailinglist. We recently moved our infrastructure >> to github and I wrote a patch to the github Email service hook to add an >>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header, mailman password and security

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Dag Wieers wrote: We have been using the Approved header as a way to automatically approve commit logs to a read-only mailinglist. We recently moved our infrastructure to github and I wrote a patch to the github Email service hook to add an Approved header. https://gi

[Mailman-Users] Approved header, mailman password and security

Hi, We have been using the Approved header as a way to automtically approve commit logs to a read-only mailinglist. We recently moved our infrastructure to github and I wrote a patch to the github Email service hook to add an Approved header. https://github.com/github/github-services/pul

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

On 11/13/2010 4:12 AM, Andre van Kan wrote: > > I should have firstly explained the consistency of our recently > installed mailsystem: three separate IP-clusters (!) cooperate to > handle our e-mail and except for MM they perform very well. > (btw, it was designed and installed by an external pa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 01:12:18PM +0100, Andre van Kan wrote: > - cluster 1: runs the MTA (Postfix) and MM > - cluster 2: runs Horde and the MM-webinterface > - cluster 3: runs Cyrus-imapd > > Cluster 1 and 2 share - via NFS - the MM-lists etc. I found out however > that data/heldms* was only

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 07:48 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> I understand that, but the data/heldmsg* file could have been removed > >>> external to Mailman before that. > > > > I never found any heldmsg* on the system, nor any complaint > > that such a file could not be written. Maybe could an str

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

On 11/5/2010 6:44 AM, André van Kan wrote: > >> I understand that, but the data/heldmsg* file could have been removed >>> external to Mailman before that. > > I never found any heldmsg* on the system, nor any complaint > that such a file could not be written. Maybe could an strace of > the approp

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

> I understand that, but the data/heldmsg* file could have been removed > > external to Mailman before that. I never found any heldmsg* on the system, nor any complaint that such a file could not be written. Maybe could an strace of the appropriate qrunner be of some help? > > The attached admin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

Andre van Kan wrote: > >On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 07:12 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> > Can you send me off list a copy of Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py from your >> > system? >> >> I received that. Thank you. Unfortunately, there's nothing there that >> helps explain this issue. I c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

Mark Sapiro wrote: > Can you send me off list a copy of Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py from your > system? I received that. Thank you. Unfortunately, there's nothing there that helps explain this issue. I can work up a patch to provide debug logging, but before I do that, is there anything in Mailman's '

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

André van Kan wrote: > >I found out that as soon as the list-administrator just selects the link in >the " requires approval" message as sent by mailman, ("Reason: Post >by non-member to a members-only list") the message is discarded at that >very moment! (vette log update detected) > >After t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

Hi Mark, Thank you for your reply. > Please post to the list, not to me personally. Point taken. And sure, you are Mark, not Larry, sorry ;-) > However, the above messages, presumably from Mailman's vette log, come > from two different PIDs. Thus, I'm guessing that you are approving these > mes

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

On 10/29/2010 8:11 AM, André van Kan wrote: > Hi Larry, > > Although we have the same problem, ours is even weird in > some aspects. I made an test-list - groep3 - with two members. > If mail is send by a non-member, all messages are discarded > after approval: > > Oct 29 15:59:09 2010 (20460) gr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

On 10/4/2010 11:51 AM, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: > > What caused the message to be discarded after it was approved? Most likely, Content filtering -> filter_action is Discard, and there was nothing left of the message after content filtering. E.g. the message was text/html or maybe multipart/re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

On 10/4/2010 1:06 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > * Rosenbaum, Larry M. : >> >> Oct 04 10:35:12 2010 (21271) X_Cohorts post from michael.x...@.edu >> held, >> message-id=<2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu>: Post >> to moderated list >> Oct 04 10:38:26 2010 (5774) he

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

* Rosenbaum, Larry M. : > We are running Mailman v2.1.13 on Solaris 9 Sparc. We have a list with about > 13,000 members that we currently have "emergency moderation" turned on > because of previous problems with reply storms. > > Today somebody sent a message to the list, which (of course) was

[Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

We are running Mailman v2.1.13 on Solaris 9 Sparc. We have a list with about 13,000 members that we currently have "emergency moderation" turned on because of previous problems with reply storms. Today somebody sent a message to the list, which (of course) was held for moderation. The list ow

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

On 8/6/09 9:08 PM, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > Thus, the idea of allowing "[Approved: password]" in the subject header > and removing only that text from the subject has appeal because it > doesn't depend on any characteristics of the message body. Won't work in an environment in which the message

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Barry Finkel wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: As a comparison, Launchpad's code review process allows for commands in the body of the message. It looks for specific commands prepended by a space. I don't particularly like that approach though because the space can be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

Khalil Abbas wrote: > >well I'm sorry I didn't quite understand, what should I do with this file you >sent me (approve.patch.txt) ?? where should I put it and what to name it and >what to do with its permissions n stuff? I probably shouldn't tell you because if you don't know how to apply a pat

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

x27;m still zero in tghis stuff.. Thanks .. > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:59:49 -0700 > From: m...@msapiro.net > To: khillo...@hotmail.com; mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header! > > Khalil Abbas wrote: > > > >my sug

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

Barry Warsaw wrote: >As a comparison, Launchpad's code review process allows for commands >in the body of the message. It looks for specific commands prepended >by a space. I don't particularly like that approach though because >the space can be hard to see. Would it find a command that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

On Aug 7, 2009, at 12:08 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: The idea is to require the square brackets so a mere "approved:" in the subject (such as this message) doesn't trigger a match. We only match if we find "Approve:" or "Approved:" followed by a single "word" inside the square brackets and then we

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

Brad Knowles wrote: >on 8/6/09 9:14 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull said: > >> > I'll consider this as a feature for Mailman 2.2 >> >> I think this is unwise. The subject header is read by everybody, and >> you can't just delete it, so you have to munge it. More complexity. >> It's not so hard to add

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

on 8/6/09 9:14 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull said: > I'll consider this as a feature for Mailman 2.2 I think this is unwise. The subject header is read by everybody, and you can't just delete it, so you have to munge it. More complexity. It's not so hard to add an Approved pseudo-header. Some pe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

Mark Sapiro writes: > If your clients insist on posting HTML only messages and can't add an > actual Approved: header to the message, then you can try patching > Mailman/Handlers/Approve.py to recognize "[Approved: password]" in the > Subject: header. The attached Approve.patch.txt file contai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

Khalil Abbas wrote: > >my suggestion is, before I had the honor to use outlook I had Smartermail .. >they have a cool feature of approving messages with passwords is to use it in >the subject line itself : "[password: PASSWORD] Subject bla bla bla".. then >it removes the password part of course

[Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!

Dear Mailman admins, I have a suggestion for you .. I'm running 42 lists for my clients, I let them use microsoft outlook to send their newletters to their customers and I do the management part .. since someone hacked into one of my lists and started posting to it using the modertor's emai

Re: [Mailman-Users] approved senders

Mark Sapiro, on 1/8/2008 1:18 PM, said the following: > Troy Knabe wrote: > >> For accept_these_nonmembers I would like to add my entire domain. So >> I added "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" w/out the quotes, but that doesn't seem to >> be working. Any suggestions for my wrong syntax? > > > Try [EMAI

Re: [Mailman-Users] approved senders

Mark Sapiro wrote: > >Try [EMAIL PROTECTED]@my.domain.com$ To be really correct, that should be [EMAIL PROTECTED]@my\.domain\.com$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@my.domain.com$ would allow for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>The highway is for gamblers, San Francisc

Re: [Mailman-Users] approved senders

Troy Knabe wrote: >For accept_these_nonmembers I would like to add my entire domain. So >I added "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" w/out the quotes, but that doesn't seem to >be working. Any suggestions for my wrong syntax? Try [EMAIL PROTECTED]@my.domain.com$ See

[Mailman-Users] approved senders

For accept_these_nonmembers I would like to add my entire domain. So I added "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" w/out the quotes, but that doesn't seem to be working. Any suggestions for my wrong syntax? Thanks -Troy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header problem

--- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If not, try sending the message to the list with a Bcc: to > yourself. > Then, if possible, examine the raw message received via Bcc:. It > may > not be sufficient to look at it in Agent, unless Agent can show you > the raw message as received. You may

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header problem

Mark Sapiro schrieb: > It may > not be sufficient to look at it in Agent, unless Agent can show you > the raw message as received. It can. > You may be able to save it to a file from > Agent and examine that with an editor, That is possible, too. -thh -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header problem

Roy Harvey wrote: >--- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Second, how does this protect you against revealing the password by >> sending it to the wrong place? You could still add the Approved: >> header to an email to a non-list address. > >My email program, Agent, provides a way to ass

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header problem

--- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, the order of the headers is not relevant. Mailman will find > the > Approved: header wherever it is and remove it from any message > delivered to the list members. If the Approved: header contains the > correct list password without any trailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header problem

Roy Harvey wrote: > >But sometimes I screw up and past it into the wrong email, and then >have to change the password. > >In an attempt to avoid that mistake I figured out how to make my >email program add this as a actual header line. It adds it as the >third header line, after the From and To, b

[Mailman-Users] Approved header problem

I've been using Mailman with great success for almost 9 months through EMWD (http://www.emwd.com/mailman.html). Now I have a question that I have been unable to find a match to in the old messages or FAQ. Following the instructions in the FAQ entry 3.11, "How do I create a newsletter/announcement

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved Password

Trevor Dodds wrote: > >I'm setting up a Newsletter mailing list and currently using the >moderated address to allow sending, this is a problem because if >anyone figures this out our list will be spammed to death. I read that >you could add an "Approved: " into the body of the message but >where

[Mailman-Users] Approved Password

Hi, I'm setting up a Newsletter mailing list and currently using the moderated address to allow sending, this is a problem because if anyone figures this out our list will be spammed to death. I read that you could add an "Approved: " into the body of the message but where in mailman do you s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved:

Thanks for the reply. I am using Thunderbird and wanting to send html email to Mailman. I looked through the instructions on how to add a custom header and I am sad to say ... I don't get it. Any chance you can walk me through it? I have opened about:config but I am not sure what I am supposed

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved:

Dave Filchak wrote: >I am trying to post to a one way (announce only) list using a user whose >moderation bit is set, but am using the method described in the FAQ i.e. >adding Approved: to the first line of the body, with a >carriage return and blank line after it. It keeps rejecting it with t

[Mailman-Users] Approved:

I am trying to post to a one way (announce only) list using a user whose moderation bit is set, but am using the method described in the FAQ i.e. adding Approved: to the first line of the body, with a carriage return and blank line after it. It keeps rejecting it with the standard "Sorry, this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: header

Mark Sapiro wrote: > Presumably, if approve(d) is misspelled, the post will be held > anyway. If not, why are we putting an approved line there in the > first place? Now that is a good thought to ponder. Thanks Mark. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: header (was: Batch member attributes)

Jim Popovitch wrote: > >This is a question that has been bugging me for a while. If a moderator >adds an "Approved: xx" header but misspells "Approved", then their >password goes on to the list for all to see. Without setting filters >for each and every password (esp., moderator passwords

[Mailman-Users] Approved: header (was: Batch member attributes)

Mark Sapiro wrote: > A much better way is to give these authorized posters the moderator > password for the lists and have them post using an Approved: header or > first body line. Although, if they reallty need 80 different passwords > each, I can see that would be quite a pain. This is a questio

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved Headers

Jeanne Goodman wrote: >Can you recommend a Windows Friendly MUA that does allow one to add a custom >header? Another response recommends Pegasus Mail. There are also ports of Mutt which is very functional but not GUI. If you're interested, search google for mutt+windows, >Is there any way to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved Headers

On 19/10/05, Jeanne Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you very much. You have cleared up a lot of things. > > Can you recommend a Windows Friendly MUA that does allow one to add a custom > header? Pegasus Mail. http://www.pmail.com. AFAIC, it's the best windows MUA. And the best part, it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved Headers

Thank you very much. You have cleared up a lot of things. Can you recommend a Windows Friendly MUA that does allow one to add a custom header? Is there any way to edit a message before approval with my mail client limitation? I saw in the FAQs how to edit a message by forwarding it to yourself

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved Headers

Jeanne Goodman wrote: >(I've looked for this in archives, but I must have the wrong search phrases.) > >Could someone tell me how to edit the headers in Outlook Express so that I can >approve or resend messages from there? This is not a Mailman question, and I'm not a MS-OE expert, but I don't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved Headers

(I've looked for this in archives, but I must have the wrong search phrases.) Could someone tell me how to edit the headers in Outlook Express so that I can approve or resend messages from there? Also, can you give me an example the format of a header with an approved header in it? Thanks Jea

[Mailman-Users] Approved Messages Lost from Digest & Archives

I host a couple of small lists for various groups. Recently one of them has been behaving very strangely. It's a fully moderated list, and when the Admin approves several messages from the moderated queue, they get sent out fine to the immediate-deliver users, but only the first one will show

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Approved:" header not stripped from mail delivered to list...

On Apr 22, 2005, at 17:41, Katharina wrote: After trying out the "Approved: "as the first line in the content of a mail I wanted to post to a (test) list, as described in some archive entries of the mailman-users mailing list, I found out that my mail was ideed posted to the list passing through

[Mailman-Users] "Approved:" header not stripped from mail delivered to list...

Hi! After trying out the "Approved: "as the first line in the content of a mail I wanted to post to a (test) list, as described in some archive entries of the mailman-users mailing list, I found out that my mail was ideed posted to the list passing through moderation but the header-like first l

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Approved header" ?

Arlequín wrote: > >On the other hand I can't figure out how's that thing of using a >`first line of the post´. Every thing I post in the message body will be > delivered to all subscribers!, won't it? No. If you put the Approved: line as the first line of the body , Mailman will recognize i

[Mailman-Users] "Approved header" ?

Hello. I was reading the 3.11 Mailman FAQ Section and I quote: `How to post to the announcement list: [..] A more secure alternative is for your approved posters to add an Approved header to their postings as a header, or as the first line of the post.´ Well, the poster in my environment use

[Mailman-Users] "Approved header"?

Hello. I was reading the 3.11 Mailman FAQ Section and I quote: `How to post to the announcement list: [..] A more secure alternative is for your approved posters to add an Approved header to their postings as a header, or as the first line of the post.´ Well, the poster in my environment use

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved posters, accept_these_nonmembers

There is a patch I submitted on the sf page that should allow you to specify "include the members of this other list" as an approved poster. As far as I know, using regex patterns in those fields works fine. -- Nathan On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 14:34, Mark J. Bradakis wrote: > While digging around i

[Mailman-Users] Approved posters, accept_these_nonmembers

While digging around in the FAQ and the archive, it seems there are many references to setting 'accept_these_nonmembers' to a regular expression. Does this actually work, and if so, can anyone provide a working example for Mailman 2.1.1 we are running? I'm assuming that one feature of majordomo,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: Header

> "L" == LuKreme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: L> I checked the FAQ for info on the Approved header, but although L> I found references to using it, I didn't find references to L> exactly HOW to use it. L> All I want is for a poster to a list to put an Approved line as L>

[Mailman-Users] Approved: Header

I checked the FAQ for info on the Approved header, but although I found references to using it, I didn't find references to exactly HOW to use it. All I want is for a poster to a list to put an Approved line as the first line of the body and then have that line stripped before the message is p

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header option

> "KW" == Kory Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: KW> In mailman 2.1b.1 How do you use the Approved:password to send KW> your message to a moderated list. I'm the owner and I have the KW> Emergency Moderation turned on and I what to send my message KW> through. I don't want

[Mailman-Users] Approved header option

In mailman 2.1b.1 How do you use the Approved:password to send your message to a moderated list. I'm the owner and I have the Emergency Moderation turned on and I what to send my message through. I don't want to use the Pending Administrative requests web interface to do this. I know in majordo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header

> "JT" == James Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JT> For what it's worth. The Approve.py handler in mailman does JT> seem to check for the Approved: header and will compare it's JT> value to the mail list admin password. It looks like this JT> should work fine from what

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header

> For what it's worth. The Approve.py handler in mailman does seem to check > for the Approved: header and will compare it's value to the mail list > admin password. It looks like this should work fine from what I've found > in the source. However, it doesn't seem to. > > Is there any way t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header

For what it's worth. The Approve.py handler in mailman does seem to check for the Approved: header and will compare it's value to the mail list admin password. It looks like this should work fine from what I've found in the source. However, it doesn't seem to. Is there any way to make mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 08:26:33PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > Does majordomo remove the Approved header while forwarding messages? If not, > > finding out the password is even more trivial than forging From:. > > Yes, it does. In that case, I stand corrected. Thanks for straightening

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 02:24:07PM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 04:01:25PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > No, this is not the case. Approved headers, while perhaps slightly > > inelegant, are more secure (FSVO "secure") than simply allowing a set of > > posters to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 04:01:25PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > No, this is not the case. Approved headers, while perhaps slightly > inelegant, are more secure (FSVO "secure") than simply allowing a set of > posters to post. Anyone can trivially fake a "From" header in an email > address,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 09:11:14AM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 08:46:42AM -0600, James Thompson wrote: > > First, Mailman doesn't seem to allow a user to type > > Approved: Password > > > > as the first line of the mail to the list to bypass the approval by the > > adm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved header

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 08:46:42AM -0600, James Thompson wrote: > First, Mailman doesn't seem to allow a user to type > Approved: Password > > as the first line of the mail to the list to bypass the approval by the > administrator. The user doesn't want to maintain the list of posters that > by

[Mailman-Users] Approved header

My last majordomo user has decided to move their lists to Mailman. Yea! However they had some questions I couldn't answer. First, Mailman doesn't seem to allow a user to type Approved: Password as the first line of the mail to the list to bypass the approval by the administrator. The user do